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Postby Aravar » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:25 pm

There really has to be a serious breakdown in relations between beneficiaries and trustees such that the administration of the trust is impeded before a trustee can be removed.

Old age is a more likely reason.
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Re: Amazon & Warner Bros. in talks for a TV adaptation of LO

Postby Denethor » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:37 pm

Ian McKellen wants to play Gandalf again on TV:

https://www.thewrap.com/ian-mckellen-wa ... tv-series/
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Re: Amazon & Warner Bros. in talks for a TV adaptation of LO

Postby Elmtree » Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:44 pm

Telemachos wrote:Well hi everyone! It's been quite a long time. Seems like there are still a few familiar faces here.

A bit of unexpected and potentially fascinating news -- the thread title says it all.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/lord-of ... 202606519/


hello, Tele! (and other familiar faces)

Now on to catch up with the thread....

So this kinda sounds like that 'bridge' movie idea that PJ was talking about at one point, using material from the appendices to fill in the time between the end of the Hobbit and the start of LotR. I actually think this is a better idea than a straight adaptation, which would inevitably have suffered from constant comparison to the movies,


I dunno... I am not heartened by the news so far. A new adaption of LOTR for the small screen would be a very different creature than a movie adaption. We spoke about what that would be like years ago on this forum-- back during the purist and revisionist wars. The revisionists argued a movie could not be as faithful as a serialized TV show, which could put in things like Tom Bombadil and the barrow downs.

I have trouble believing stuff made up from bits Tolkien left will have the White Orc effect. Will they be able to be true to the spirit of LOTR? Or are they just trying to force a GoT style success? :-/ I hope it works but I'm doubtful. Tolkien was from an age and had a viewpoint that is very very rare in the world, and I think unless someone really tries to 'get' his heart, then what made LOTR so special will not come across in the series. Jackson did not share many of Tolkien's views, but he did try to make something that would honor those views in LOTR (not sure what the heck happened with The Hobbit).

According to TORN, CT just resigned from the Tolkien Estate:
Holy Cow! I'm still catching up on posts here... this IS news. And not necessarily good news for the stories. I figured CT would have an ability to reign in the worst excesses, but now my confidence is less than it was a few minutes ago. The man is ancient, and certainly deserves a nice retirement in his last few years.

Does anyone have the latest news? My understanding is it will be made up stuff 'based on' some Tolkien written bits of events between the Hobbit and LOTR. I'm curious to see a serialized LOTR (or Hobbit thru LOTR) story, but if they want Game of Thrones Epic, they need to do Silm/Numenor.
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Re: Amazon & Warner Bros. in talks for a TV adaptation of LO

Postby Denethor » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:37 pm

Elmtree wrote:Does anyone have the latest news? My understanding is it will be made up stuff 'based on' some Tolkien written bits of events between the Hobbit and LOTR. I'm curious to see a serialized LOTR (or Hobbit thru LOTR) story, but if they want Game of Thrones Epic, they need to do Silm/Numenor.


It's not a serialised LOTR, but rather what seems to be prequel fanfiction.

In any case, it might revive TORC. :)
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Re: Amazon & Warner Bros. in talks for a TV adaptation of LO

Postby Elmtree » Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:54 pm

That's what I understood, Denethor. Sorry to hear what I heard was correct. Prequel fanfic sounds awful-- mind you, I like a good fanfic. But it's because I expect something different with fanfic than with something professional. What is Amazon thinking? Probably of money-- but this is, I think, a bad move. I thought christopher tolkien had been a little too strict in the past... now I wish he was still vetoing stuff!
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Re: Amazon & Warner Bros. in talks for a TV adaptation of LO

Postby Otaku-sempai » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:31 am

Hi. My best guess is that this series will be based (at least loosely) on material from the LotR Appendices and will most likely be set between the Battle of the Five Armies and the War of the Ring. However, the Appendices also covers much of the Second Age and the Kingdoms of the Dúnedain in the Third Age. I actually expect a series about the journeys and errantries of Aragorn as a young Ranger. Perhaps the most intriguing possibility is for an anthology series in which each season might tell a self-contained story.

Thoughts?
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Re: Amazon & Warner Bros. in talks for a TV adaptation of LO

Postby Gadget2 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:20 pm

Otaku-sempai wrote:Hi. My best guess is that this series will be based (at least loosely) on material from the LotR Appendices and will most likely be set between the Battle of the Five Armies and the War of the Ring. However, the Appendices also covers much of the Second Age and the Kingdoms of the Dúnedain in the Third Age. I actually expect a series about the journeys and errantries of Aragorn as a young Ranger. Perhaps the most intriguing possibility is for an anthology series in which each season might tell a self-contained story.

Thoughts?



I think this is probably the most likely case. Aragorn's younger days of errantry provide the obvious glue that holds the framework of such a story together. One could tell about the worsening conditions all over middle-earth through the guise of Aragorn's wanderings and adventures. Mind you, I'm not saying it will be good, but this seems the most probable axis of story telling to me.
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Re: Amazon & Warner Bros. in talks for a TV adaptation of LO

Postby Otaku-sempai » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:32 am

Gadget2 wrote:I think this is probably the most likely case. Aragorn's younger days of errantry provide the obvious glue that holds the framework of such a story together. One could tell about the worsening conditions all over middle-earth through the guise of Aragorn's wanderings and adventures. Mind you, I'm not saying it will be good, but this seems the most probable axis of story telling to me.

Aragorn does provide the potential viewership with a familiar character being presented in a new manner. And he is a character who could support an entire series. On the other hand, an anthology series can present a new story every season, or even use smaller arcs to provide several separate stories per season. Some of those tales could easily draw from "The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen". I could see Amazon use either approach.
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Re: Amazon & Warner Bros. in talks for a TV adaptation of LO

Postby Otaku-sempai » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:32 am

Gadget2 wrote:I think this is probably the most likely case. Aragorn's younger days of errantry provide the obvious glue that holds the framework of such a story together. One could tell about the worsening conditions all over middle-earth through the guise of Aragorn's wanderings and adventures. Mind you, I'm not saying it will be good, but this seems the most probable axis of story telling to me.

Aragorn does provide the potential viewership with a familiar character being presented in a new manner. And he is a character who could support an entire series. On the other hand, an anthology series can present a new story every season, or even use smaller arcs to provide several separate stories per season. Some of those tales could easily draw from "The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen". I could see Amazon use either approach.
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Re: Amazon & Warner Bros. in talks for a TV adaptation of LO

Postby Elmtree » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:56 am

This makes the most sense. But will it be True to Tolkien's Aragorn? Will it be true to Tolkien, period? I have serious doubt about it, as I suspect cash rather than craft is behind this.

Well, if I can just take a deep breath and view it as fanfic, I should be okay.

While I don't agree with every move PJ made in his LOTR movies, he did, for the most part, keep the *heart* of Tolkien, and in a way I'm not sure other directors would have.
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