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Postby orodreth111 » Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:56 am

...I always feel that in this day and age of different flavors that this important genre is often overlooked. To me, a true musician can play instruments...well!!! Todays Rock has some okay musicians, but very few virtuosos.. Where is this generations Steve Howe..Robert Fripp?? Keith Emerson? Rick Wakeman?, Patrick Moraz?? Carl Palmer?? Peter Gabriel??..Jon Anderson?? Chris Squire?? Tony Levin??...It is a lost art form, Prog Rock. The intelligence of Music is gone....What a pity that Rock music has been dumbed down to the likes of My Chemical Romance and such.
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Postby Dunthule » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:41 pm

Now there's a list of musicians Oro!!
If today's musicians are talented, and I'm sure they're out there, I agree that the music doesn't allow or push them to show their musical talent.
<My humble opinion>
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Postby FrodiusMaximus » Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:11 am

You're right. Music is progressively becoming less interesting and complex. There was a time where you had to be at least a decent musician to make it in music, but now all of that is eroded.

In defense of modern music though, drumming has, on the whole, improved greatly in the past 40 years or so.
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Postby orodreth111 » Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:36 am

...Thanks Dunthule!! I'm afraid that the days of 10 to 20 minute epic songs are gone from music forever, at least the mainstream. There are few hold outs in the Prog Genre, but unfortunatley they recieve zero radio play. Marrilion comes to mind as the only exception.
The grandiose days of ELP or Yes going platinum with 3 80 minute songs are gone forever... :cry2:
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Postby Dunthule » Tue May 08, 2007 3:34 pm

Does anyone remember Rick Wakeman's "Journey to the Center of the Earth" album? Would anyone try something like that today?
Or has anyone?
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Postby orodreth111 » Sat May 19, 2007 6:56 am

...I have that Disc, also I have his "Return to the Center of the Earth" as well...Both are very good.....Have you ever heard his "King Arthur" album?
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Postby Dunthule » Tue May 22, 2007 6:14 pm

No. But now I have something to go research. :wink:
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Postby GlassHouse » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:01 am

I think I'm going to keep posting vids and music in this thread just for the fun of it.

SOFT MACHINE : Out-Bloody-Rageous Full Version (all 19:19 of it) - fixed link b/c the other one was taken down.
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Postby Arassuil » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:29 am

Maybe some old grunts think there is no intelligence in music these days, but the good stuff is out there if one knows where, or ever bothers to look. :)

I've been enjoying Dreamtime very much. Some good 21st century prog rock this!
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Postby GlassHouse » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:32 pm

Hey Fripp and Sylvian was only the 1990's, which seems like yesterday to me and Ozric is a current band.

Trey Gunn is also still making lots of music;

http://www.treygunn.com/


had not heard of Dreamtime but I like that track. will check them out.
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Postby GlassHouse » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:24 am

How could i forget Gentle Giant?

The Runaway

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In A Glass House
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Postby GlassHouse » Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:27 pm

another Ozric Tentacles


anyone ever heard of

Thinking Plague?


Horrible names for groups but good stuff.
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Postby GlassHouse » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:57 am

This is truly great.

Steve Tibbetts, "Ur"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... uphpgJ8Oc#!
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Postby GlassHouse » Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:28 pm

Oh what the heck, maybe somebody is clicking these links.

More modern music in the prog (ish) vein.

My Brother the Wind


Very cool stuff. Who says the kids can't play prog.
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Postby FrodoTook » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:37 pm

I just found this thread and am listening to GlassHouse's latest sharing...My Brother The Wind. as I type.

Still listening and typing...Thank you Oreo for initiating this thread.

Still listening and typing...Thank you GlassHouse for sharing.

This is new to me.

I am diggin it.

Thanks Oreo and GlassHouse.

Notice that I did not say "they remind me of someone / sometime", but that thought did cross my mind. If I did say that, I would mean it as complimintary.

Anyway, this thread is saved to my PC and I am moving on to hear every previous link shared.

Yes, someone is clicking these links and loving the results.

Prog Rock / Jazzy Rock is how I describe this kind of music and I absolutely love it. To me, Jazz kicks Rock to a higher plane..making it progressive and so very enjoyable for me.

The Music of the Ainur. 8)

Thanks so much GlassHouse for sharing.
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Postby FrodoTook » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:50 pm

GlassHouse

Your lower link to "Thinking Plague" does not work but thankfully your upper link to "Ozric Tentacles" does. Nice collection there. Enjoying as I type. Very cool.

I especially enjoy Spacebase

Awesome music with awesome video. A win / win. :thumbsup:
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Postby FrodoTook » Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:07 pm

I still say I describe this as jazzy rock.

Which I enjoy so very much.

Thanks so much Oreo and Glasshouse.

for sharing your joy.

I enjoy with you.
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Postby GlassHouse » Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:06 am

Glad you're reading and enjoying this FT.

I was just listening to something that I haven't heard in ages.

There's a site called Wolfgang's Vault and what it is, is a site started when some guy got the rights to the collection of thousands of live concert recordings, previously owned by the late promoter, Bill Graham. Thousands of hours of music and since then, much more live music has been added. Thousands. Famous. Top. Musicians from the 60's and 70's. A lot is stream-able for free All of it is downloadable - for a fee.

Anyway, check it out.

But anyway, there's a recording of Emerson Lake and Palmer doing Tarkus live and like I said it's been years since I heard it but this was really nice, actually sort of a laid back version. I had forgotten how good Emerson was (is?) and I always liked Lakes voice and Plamer is a great drummer who perhaps doesn't get the credit he deserves. In this version, his skill really stands apart from the hyperbolics of some of the other, heavier ELP stuff.
But I don't recall if Emerson quoted Night in Tunisia on the LP version, I definitely don't recall if he quoted both Night in Tunisia and the theme from Star Wars....

Really, it's worth a listen.. .Tarkus, or this version, is much better than I remembered. I may even order the original CD just to refresh my memory.

yeah and jazzy rock is pretty accurate for a lot of this stuff.

ETA: that's not Night in Tunisia...what the heck is that? It's driving me crazy. It's at 5:37 of the Tarkus track and I should know what that is!
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Postby GlassHouse » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:52 pm

Ah! figured it out, man that was driving me crazy all day.
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It's Round Midnight. Listen to the Miles Davis version here.
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Postby FrodoTook » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:42 pm

Good to see you back GH.

Enjoyed the Miles Davis.

Hearing your sharing moved me to share.

I hope you enjoy a couple from Tom Scott. Both from the 1974 album...Tom Scott and the LA Express. I have the LP. The cover of which I love and reminds me of the Stones Album with a zipper on the cover.

I hope you groove to...

Tom Scott & L.A. Express - Sneakin' In The Back

Tom Scott and the L.A. Express Bless My Soul

I love the transitions. Jazz and Prog Rock perk me up and I thank you for prompting me to listen.

I am perked. 8)
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Postby GlassHouse » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:39 pm

There's a huge jazz influence in a lot of progressive rock, right from the beginning. Just listen to a song like 21st Century Schizoid Man
The last instrumental section sounds a lot like Ornette Coleman's or something from later period Coltrane.

although the lyrics aren't all that uplifting... :wink:
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Postby FrodoTook » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:40 pm

Hey GlassHouse 8)

Thanks for sharing the link to one of King Crimsons best..in my opinion.

In the court of the Crimson King. Which I remember visiting so well.

Although the lyrics aren't all that uplifting...I enjoy the music enough to offset them.

After revisiting this thread, I came across Spacebase again and am glad I did.

9:24 of pure jazzy prog rock by a very tight band.

I highly recommend listening to this tune.

Very nice visuals too..by the way.

I am definitely grooving to it as I type.

It really gets to a higher gear at 3:14.

Please share more yall.
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Postby GoodSam » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:26 pm

I like Porcupine Tree for modern prog rock. Medeski, Martin and Wood for Jazz Fusion. Opeth's Damnation album is more prog rock than metal, and it is incredible! Tool is OK, but I don't care for screaming and growling.
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Postby FrodoTook » Tue May 01, 2012 10:53 am

Thanks Goodsam

I was hoping someone would share something new to me which I would enjoy.

GoodSam wrote:Opeth's Damnation album is more prog rock than metal, and it is incredible!


You prompted me to check them out.

I have never experienced their music before and I am enjoying Windowpane very much as I post.

I did read that they have many ( I think I read 9 ) releases...so I definitely have some catching up to do.

For me, good Prog Rock, much like good Jazz, takes me on a trip. An adventure in which I experience the highs and lows, the storm and the calm. For me, for it to be good, it must have enjoyable transitions between the extremes. Which Windowpane does.

Thanks again Goodsam. :)
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Postby GoodSam » Tue May 01, 2012 5:52 pm

Thank my musician sons and their incredible taste in music. I'm glad you like it. Though I should mention that most of Opeth's other stuff is closer to scream metal.
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Postby GoodSam » Tue May 01, 2012 9:01 pm

If you haven't already heard of them, you should also check out Porcupine Tree and Dredg.
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Postby Dunthule » Sun May 27, 2012 4:24 am

A friend recommend I listen to a Glass Hammer.
Any fans out there?
I've listened to a few tunes. (Revelation, Life by Light, ..)
Some good tunes. :)
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Postby Dunthule » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:56 pm

An oldie but goodie by ELP. 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeQsZOQqO6I
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