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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby GlassHouse » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:54 am

full 26 minutes of Super's Ready, what more could you ask?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M58wE8GT ... re=related
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby GlassHouse » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:28 am

my bro posted this on facebook.....I saw these guys twce and they always put on a great show..

It's a little rougher than the studio version but it's also looser and they're really having fun just playing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLPA7F7S ... e=youtu.be
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby GlassHouse » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:40 am

I stumbled on this on You Tube, I really like.

Morpheus - Abflug


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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby Salmacis81 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:40 pm

Definitely my favorite sub-genre of rock music (and probably the one most influenced by fantasy literature). It doesn't get any better than listening to some PG-era Genesis while having an ale and a cigar on a snowy night in December. Also love Yes, ELP, Tull, Crimson, and Gentle Giant. Rush is good, but I have a hard time putting them in the same class as the aforementioned groups.
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby GlassHouse » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:17 am

Hi, Salmacis81, welcome.

This is for you.
Genesis - Twilight Alehouse - Belgium-1972
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby FrodoTook » Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:26 pm

GlassHouse wrote:full 26 minutes of Super's Ready, what more could you ask?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M58wE8GT ... re=related


I loved this.

Well shared Glasshouse. 8)

I am gladdened to see you keeping this thread going strong. Thanks for your new links. I will check them out soon.

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And welcome :) Salmacis81 to this thread. Good to see you here.

I met you in The Hobbit Movie forum and enjoyed your review.

You tastes in Prog Rock miror mine..I, too, love Yes, ELP, Tull, Crimson, and Gentle Giant.

I especially love early Tull..as does the originator of this thread...Oreo.
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby Salmacis81 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:34 pm

GlassHouse wrote:Hi, Salmacis81, welcome.

This is for you.
Genesis - Twilight Alehouse - Belgium-1972


Thank you sir - great vid!!! This is an excellent early song of theirs (and non-album cut to boot).
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby Salmacis81 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:45 pm

FrodoTook wrote:
GlassHouse wrote:And welcome :) Salmacis81 to this thread. Good to see you here.

I met you in The Hobbit Movie forum and enjoyed your review.

You tastes in Prog Rock miror mine..I, too, love Yes, ELP, Tull, Crimson, and Gentle Giant.

I especially love early Tull..as does the originator of this thread...Oreo.


Thanks man. I figured there'd at least be a few prog fans on a Tolkien website.

As for Tull - Hell yeah!! Their run from Benefit to A Passion Play, and then Minstrel in the Gallery to Heavy Horses was great stuff. My absolute favorite Tull album has to be Songs from the Wood. I always felt that War Child was pretty weak though...I have been trying for years to get into that album, but I always end up shutting it off after about 5 or 6 tracks.
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby Salmacis81 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:46 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIFBpn7_uBQ

Always preferred Part 1 to the much more famous Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpILkBBve7k

One of Genesis' best
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby GlassHouse » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:30 am

OK, since there isn't a thread devoted strictly to psychedelic rock and since (IMO) these guys were an influence on a lot of the experimental rock that followed them, I guess I'll include this here.

SPIRIT -Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus (1970) [full album]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6VKwhQz7VY

not only great music and great production values but how can you not like a band who's guitarist has a name like Randy California? I mean, come on.

favorite songs; Animal Zoo, When I Touch You and Life Has Just Begun among others


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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby Dunthule » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:29 pm

Wow, I forgot about Spirit. Didn't they sing 'Nature's Way"? :)

Question for everyone. What is your definition of prog rock.
Is it a musical style or lyrical content. Or both?
I've always considered it a combination of both.
Lyrics that are not bubble gum pop along with music that has movements and complexity much like a classical song.
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby GlassHouse » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:31 pm

off to work now but.....

Nature's Way
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby FrodoTook » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:54 pm

GlassHouse wrote:"Much to fat and a little too long Much to fat and a little too long Much to fat and a little too long Much to fat and a little too long Much to fat and a little too long Much to fat and a little too long"


8) GlassHouse. Well relayed and related to.

I love how you faded with the fonts...as the lyrics did. 8) Well done my friend. Very well done. :)

Spirit remains a great experience for me and a good influence on me.

:hihi: Dunny.

Always 8)
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby GlassHouse » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:49 am

What is Prog Rock huh?



Standard answer;
Prog rock and prog metal are charicterised by:
1) Longer songs, often narrative in form.
2) More complex song structures, odd time signatures, sometimes could be described as experimental or avant garde.
3) Weird, fantasy, sci fi, mythical or stream of consciousness based lyrics.
4) Non standard instrumentation (e.g.flutes, violins, oboe and of course, melotron, (less common in prog metal though)
5) Noticeable jazz, classical and psychedelic influences.
6) Ambitious artistic exploration. (Sometimes overly ambitious).

Some people (who don't get it) may use the words "bombastic" or "pretentious" when describing prog rock but I would describe those traits as "majestic" and "artistic!" maybe even EPIC! And that ignores the fact that much of what is considered prog can be quite subtle and thoughtful. (Renaissance does not equal ELP in other words). To me, the complexity of the music the generally superior ability of the musicians to play their instruments makes it more interesting to listen to and the often fantastical qualities of the lyrics appeal to me too......those are my quick thoughts, will be back later and am interested it what others will add.
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Re: Prog Rock!

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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby GlassHouse » Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:54 pm

this is progressive to be sure but it's probably not rock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbPr68-5ZMw

Buke and Gass (no, that's not a medical condition, it's a accurately descriptive name of this 2 person band).
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby FrodoTook » Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:41 pm

GlassHouse wrote:this is progressive to be sure but it's probably not rock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbPr68-5ZMw

Buke and Gass (no, that's not a medical condition, it's a accurately descriptive name of this 2 person band).


Hey GlassHouse

I am enjoying your share as I type. There is a lot I enjoy hearing this and seeing this. Unique and pleasurable. Still listening for the first time as I type...very cool.

Nice vocals. Nice instrument play. Nice / enjoyable is good to me.

Still listening the first time...I am loving this. I am on a journey..traveling with them.

Thank you GlassHouse and thank you Buke and Gass for taking me somewhere new to me.

Yes, I am grooving..loving the flow of creativity. 8)

My highest compliment is to say I have saved this to my PC and look forward to hearing more.

Well shared and well heard.

I wish I had been in that library at that time.
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby GlassHouse » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:52 am

So glad you like that FT. :)


But some sad news. Kevin Ayers, a founding member of Soft Machine and the whole Canterbury Scene of early progressive rock died today at the (way too young) age of 68.

He made some great, weird, wonderful music that has inspired me since the 70's. Thanks Kevin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z4PX0v7Khs
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby Dunthule » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:51 am

That is sad. Soft Machine was the precursor (of sorts) to Caravan, correct?
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby GlassHouse » Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:42 pm

Yeah. They were both part of the Canterbury scene (caravan coming later) and all those bands traded personnel a lot.


Here's something I stumbled across on Youtube. My daughter was really into early Genesis for a while but I was never able to find a good quality video of their concerts for her - but it looks like someone has restored and digitized a bunch of the old 16mm film that was taken back in the 70's.


So from 1973, Genesis live in HD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FBcz3tB ... re=mh_lolz
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby Dunthule » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:25 pm

Thanks GH!
I'm listening to it as I work. 8)

I just remembered that the first album I bought was "And then there were three...".
I believe that was the first Genesis studio album without Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett.
Ahhh the memories. One of the best bands I've ever seen live. :) 8)
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby FrodoTook » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:03 pm

GlassHouse wrote:

So from 1973, Genesis live in HD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FBcz3tB ... re=mh_lolz


I Thank you so very much Glasshouse

Genesis continues to rule. A very good friend turned me onto them. His name remains Glen. Thank you Glen.

Listening and enjoying as I type and also want to say hello to Dunny. Thank you for The Moody Blues lovely to see you again my friend.

I am happy. Right now..hearing Genesis.

Prog Rock and cool friends are precious to me.

I sincerely thank both of you and prog rock with you.
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby Dunthule » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:43 am

You're most welcome FT!! :) 8)
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby GlassHouse » Sun May 05, 2013 10:45 am

Steve Wilson has done some really great work both in and out of Porcupine Tree.

Porcupine Tree Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape

and Wilson's latest (I think) solo album

The Raven That Refused to Sing

a very affecting animated video of the title song can be found here.




I originally assumed that the ghost was the old man's daughter, but the author says she's the old man's sister, that he lost in childhood. It could easily be interpreted the other way.

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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby FrodoTook » Tue May 14, 2013 9:08 pm

Hey...glasshouse.

Good to see you friend.

I think you will enjoy with many...again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9J8-xmbfBWc

many more times.

GH, this has some prog rock in it...I think. 8)

This tune has a progression...like a Pink Flovd tune

Yeah..I know you relate ...as do many others

I will definitely say 7:00 till the end is awesome ..to me. :horse:

Been that way for a good time..and will continue to be.
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby FrodoTook » Tue May 14, 2013 9:42 pm

Hello again GH.

I sincerely thank you for turning me onto new prog rock.
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby GlassHouse » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:50 pm

hey FT,

from the old bands you never heard of category;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersister_%28Dutch_band%29
Supersister was a Dutch band from The Hague, Netherlands, playing progressive rock ranging from jazz to pop. The most predominant band members were Robert Jan Stips (keyboards, vocals), Sacha van Geest (flute), Marco Vrolijk (drums) and Ron van Eck (bass).

The band started as Sweet OK Sister in 1968 as a school band with singer and songwriter Rob Douw, who soon thereafter left. The remaining members continued as a more serious musical quartet under the name Supersister. Their style was progressive rock (in Canterbury Scene style) in which Stips' keyboard play played a dominant role.

Their debut was the 1970 album, Present from Nancy, with charting singles such as "She Was Naked", "A Girl Named You", and "Radio". After three albums (Present from Nancy (1970), To the Highest Bidder (1971), and Pudding en Gisteren (1972)) van Geest and Vrolijk quit. The remaining crew, together with new members Charlie Mariano (wind instruments) and Herman van Boeyen (drums) released the album Iskander in 1973, which is a jazz-rock oriented concept album based upon the life of Alexander the Great.

In 1974, Stips and van Geest released a final album, Sweet Okay Supersister, which marked the end of the band.








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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby FrodoTook » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:53 pm

Thanks GH

I enjoyed "Mexico' from "Present from Nancy". I am listening again as I type. I was fondly reminded of the vibe I heard in Pink Floyds "See Emily Play" and Elp's "Tarkus". Bt that I mean high compliments. Definitely worth getting my ear buds out of the drawer, untangling them and checking left and right.

Way cool.

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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby Dunthule » Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:33 am

Hey FT and GH!

FT, you mentioned ELP.
'Karen-evil' was a favorite of mine back when I was 12 or so. Even then I was bent towards more complex and progressive songs vs the tripe that was played on AM radio in the states.
Let's see, "Seasons in the Wind" or 'Karn-Evil'. Which to choose? Not a hard decision... :twisted: :lol:
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Re: Prog Rock!

Postby FrodoTook » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:53 pm

Great shout out and reminder Dunny.

Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=p7Eyyl1Vs1M

Great to see you and I thank you again.

I loved it then and now.

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