Anne McCaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern series

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Postby Tigerlily_Goldworthy » Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:55 pm

Hmmm...pretty much what I was going to say has already been said, but still, I'll say it anyway. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>I really enjoyed the first three, The Harper Hall trilogy (The best ones, I think), The Renegades of Pern, The MasterHarper of Pern, The Dolphins of Pern, All the Weyrs of Pern, Ummm... I know I've left some out, but those are the ones I can think of. (Sorry if I didn't get the names right...it's been a while since I read them last.)<BR><BR>I keep finding contradictions in it, or misspellings that ought to have been found and fixed by a good editor, but they're there, nevertheless. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif"border=0> Oh, well. They're enjoyable, if not up to the standards put up by Tolkien...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0><BR><BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> (I personally didn't like Moreta or Nerilka's Story...too sad...Mom and I usualy avoid those...)]<BR><BR>Fandarel and Robinton are the coolest...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0> Whenever Mom or I find Goblets with blue stems and clear cups (? Is that the correct name for them?), we're like "Oh, Robinton would like that" or That reminds me of Robinton...."
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Postby Klandestinie » Sat Dec 20, 2003 5:50 pm

Pern was a good series. Nerilka's Story, Moretta and the White Dragon were pretty good. I even remember an art book being published some time ago. Good stuff.
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Postby Elrámë » Sat Dec 20, 2003 6:41 pm

Adi brought up an older McCaffrey thread...would it perhaps make sense to let this one drop?
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Postby Aduelda » Tue Dec 23, 2003 4:49 am

LOL...it seems I do this alot...but what can I do?! She's my fave author...she needs some respect <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> Hmm....I dunno...I really didn't like 'All the Wyrs of Pern' too much...waaaaaaay technical...but Dragonsdawn..now there's a great book!! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Scarlet » Wed Dec 24, 2003 3:25 am

<i>Whenever Mom or I find Goblets with blue stems and clear cups (? Is that the correct name for them?), we're like "Oh, Robinton would like that" or That reminds me of Robinton...." </i><BR><BR>LOL. Just a few days ago while hunting for Christmas presents I saw some goblets like that, and thought of Robinton. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> (I think the correct term would be 'bowl', rather than 'cup'?)
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Postby Aduelda » Thu Dec 25, 2003 12:03 pm

Why am I the only one who doesn't seem to remember theses goblets/cups/bowls any more?! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif"border=0> Got to reread the series again...not now...no time...miss it though...<BR>I adored Robinton...spectacular character if I do say so myself...one of my favourites!!!
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Postby Quennith » Sat Dec 27, 2003 2:06 pm

I LOVE Robinton. My list of favorite Characters goes Sam and Frodo as Best, Merry and Pippin as slightly less Best, and Master Robinton as slightly less best under that. The best books in the series are the ones involving him, thought the one specifically about him as a lot of mistakes in it. That's the problem with her books, she has a lot of consistancy errors. But otherwise, they're good. <BR><BR>I agree her later ones are going down hill-the characters she chooses to follow are not as interesting. I want to hear more about the Master harper-the one Sebeel has sort of replacing Piemur. I forget his name, but he's briefly in The Skies of Pern-and he's the best part!
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Postby Aya » Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:20 pm

Jo, If you want cheezy, cliche midevil fantasy books, reads Pern. Seriously, I love books, but they will get OLD. I swear to you. If anyone wants to bet me, fine. But they will get OLD.
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Postby ~BlackAngelofFire~ » Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:28 pm

A friend recommended it to me and I thought the idea was decent. Still I don't know why but I could hardly read through the first book in the series, then I started to read the second book and didn't get very far. The only reason I can think of is that I don't enjoy her style of writing.
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Postby Arwen_Sol » Tue Dec 30, 2003 10:48 pm

For anyone interested in a little RPing based on McCaffrey's books <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR><a href='http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=37&threadid=63114' target=_blank>The Pride of Pern: OOC, chat and training</a><BR><a href='http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=37&threadid=64941' target=_blank>The Pride of Pern</a><BR><BR>*~Arwen aka. Laryn, rider of green Firlanth!<BR><BR>
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Postby rwhen » Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:39 am

<i>Jo, If you want cheezy, cliche midevil fantasy books, reads Pern. Seriously, I love books, but they will get OLD. I swear to you. If anyone wants to bet me, fine. But they will get OLD. </i><BR><BR>Aya...you made me laugh out loud...it is all from ones perspective, not a right or wrong, good or bad, or new or old.. I have read McCaffrey over and over again...one time the Dragonriders series back to back... maybe they got old for you, maybe I have a simple mind (no comments from the sneaky mod who roams this forum.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0> )but I always found them enjoyable...<BR><BR>..........<BR><BR>Indeed, the stems of the goblets for Master Robinton after he moved to Cove Hold after his heart attack were dyed a deep harper blue...the cup part of the goblet remained clear so he could see the color of the Benden wine that was inside <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>.... <BR><BR>Best books for me were the Harper Hall Series...and Moreta...<BR><BR>OOPS - Edit...sorry, Arwen_Sol.. thanks for keeping the homefires burning at PoP...The Pride of Pern, I haven't been there in a long while. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Hope you are all still having fun!!
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Postby Arwen_Sol » Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:27 am

<b>Rwhen</b> I hear ya, girl! I've read the Harper Hall trilogy many, many, maaaany time and it never gets old <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> I love Robinton and Menolly and Sebell and Piemur ofcourse~ great characters and worth getting to know! Also COOOOOME BAAAAACK~ (to tPoP) even now we're discussing strategies to get it going again and we really miss you guys there *sniffles* so do drop by, even if it's just to say 'ello!<BR><BR>*~Arwen<BR><BR>
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Postby Ghâshburz » Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:39 am

I've read the entire Pern collection a couple of times over.<BR><BR>They're a little idealised, and in places are in danger of becoming a bit soppy, but as a whole, it's an excellent series. <BR><BR>My favourite book is definately the first one, as it's a lot darker than the rest, my favourite character is probably either Robinton or Lessa. <BR><BR>The best thing about the Pern books, is that they create a world both believable and yet likeable.<BR><BR>The worst is when it turns into the book version of comfort food. Some of the romances are pitifully obvious, although others are less so. <BR><BR>Alll in all, read the first three. If you don't like 'em, you won't like the rest.<BR><BR>If you A) likead them or B) want something as little darker, try Robin Hobb's Assassins Trilogy, I think you'll enjoy them.
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Postby rwhen » Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:44 am

<b>Arwen_Sol</b>... ((HUGS)) indeed,I need to get back to PoP.. I don't think that our N'lan will be back. In fact I am certain of it, so that is why I think I have dropped off. But seeing as it is my thread...I need to come on back to the fold. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Look forward to seeing you there <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Hey all who might be interested in a Dragonriders of Pern role play, there is an existing one in the Pony, come and check it out .. new comers always welcome!!
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Postby Shadowjack » Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:44 am

It`s been forever since I read any of them. But I remember liking them. I think these were my favorites.<BR><BR>Dragon Drums.<BR>Dragon Song.<BR>Dragon Singer.<BR><BR>The White Dragon.<BR><BR>Not only were those my faves. But they also seem to be the only ones I remember the titles of. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>
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Postby rwhen » Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:19 am

Little problem with the ol' memory Shadowjackson? <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> I am in agreement...those three books, are the Harperhall Trilogy, and are my favorites. Very fun and of the first three of the Dragonriders of Pern series, The White Dragon is also my favorite... Ruth and Jaxom....*sigh*.... Have you read them all and forgot you did? <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> <BR><BR>
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Postby Shadowjack » Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:43 am

What`s with the "ShadowjackSON"? <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Not really memory probs. Just been ALOT of years since I read them.<BR><BR>Liked the whole thread fall concept. Not sure why I never read the whole series.
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Postby ambershadow » Wed Jan 14, 2004 6:13 pm

Sometimes I just like to read a series bercause it relaxes me and lets me escape the day to day hassles . This is also a good series to get kids started on reading fantasy. My daughter began about five years ago and has worn out my books. She does a lot more with the role playing.
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Postby rwhen » Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:53 am

I said Shadowjackson, because it might sound more original..<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0> But I know how touchy you are <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>..<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> And I don't know why you never read all of the Pern series as well...hope you do someday, there is less meaty stuff, but SOME is very good. Dragonsdawn for instance.
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Postby Ellienor » Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:47 pm

SJ-is it the thread killing aspect that you liked about the books? <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>*looks over shoulder nervously and wonders if she will seriously regret mod-baiting*<BR><BR>
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Postby Gayahil » Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:01 pm

saw ann mcaffery, had to comment...<BR>first... two were the most fantastic i've read other than jrr tolkien. but my opinion- the harper hall trilogy are the best. either way, you definetly should try them!
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Postby Shadowjack » Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:05 pm

Cute <b>Ellienor </b>. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Have to keep an eye on you. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-devil.gif"border=0><BR>
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Postby Daefaroth » Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:27 pm

<BR>Anne McCaffrey understands how important good subject material is.<BR><BR>Though she played down the fact that the Dragons are actually in control, not the riders.<BR><BR>However, I have forgiven her.<BR><BR>
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Postby Elrámë » Sat Jan 17, 2004 7:52 pm

HEH. Figures that Daefaroth'd say that. <i>*looks nervously over her shoulder*</i><BR><BR>Not that it's not true...<BR><BR>Or at least, not exactly. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-devil.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Hmmm...I think the best ones are those in which she doesn't mix fantasy and sci-fi too much...as soon as the dolphins showed up and all of the old technology it got rather odd....<BR><BR>Moreta was good, as were Dragonsong and Dragonsinger...I like Dragonsdawn, too, and the first two were good (although the first one in particular didn't entirely fit in with the rest of the series...) but most of the rest aren't that good. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0>
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Postby Arwen_Sol » Sun Jan 18, 2004 12:10 am

The Harper Hall Trilogy seems to be the standard favourite and I must agree of course <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Hey <b>Rwhen</b> weren't you supposed to be 'playing' for Menolly over at the Pride? <BR><BR><i>Though she played down the fact that the Dragons are actually in control, not the riders.</i><BR><BR>Do you mean in charge of killing the threads? In the case of the golds then wouldn't it be the riders' in charge with the flame throwers since the queens aren't supposed to chew the firestone or whatever it was called <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif"border=0> can't remember <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif"border=0> it's been a while... I'm just saying <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>*~Arwen<BR>
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Postby Daefaroth » Sun Jan 18, 2004 8:56 pm

<BR>No, I meant that the Dragons were 'really' in charge.<BR><BR>Of everything.<BR><BR>From the start.<BR><BR>They choose their 'riders' on the hatching grounds, they decide when it is time for more dragons, they have the humans stumbling all over themselves to feed them and wash them and rub sand on their itchy spots.<BR><BR>Sounds like being in charge to me.<BR><BR>
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Postby Arwen_Sol » Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:13 am

*lol* sounds like the good life to me <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Has anyone here heard anything about the 'newest' Pern book: <u>Dragon's Kin</u> or something like that~ it's about a watch-wher and was co-written by McCaffrey's son... I'm having serious doubts about whether I should read that one or not. <BR><BR>*~Arwen
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Postby Ellienor » Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:15 am

*comes out of hiding*<BR>I gave up on the Pern series after reading the ones written in the 90s, because IMHO they became silly. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> But the Harperhall trilogy is fabulous. I'd be curious to know what others thought of Dragons Kin.
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Postby Aduelda » Sun Jan 25, 2004 8:27 am

IMHO...Dragon's Kin sounds like total hogwash. I've read the write-up on it...Now, I pride myself on the fact that I'm adie-hard Anne McCaffrey fan (even if she has slightly lost the plot since introducing AIVAS), but this new book is going too far. I do not, repeat, <i>do not</i> want to read about WATCH WHERS! Do I seriously look that bored to you? Do I?! Because if I do, then you need glasses!! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> (No offence!! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>)<BR><BR>I will most likely read it anyway, but with great loathing and doubt. Ahh well...we shall see! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Oh yes...<i>*Waves to Daefaroth*</i> <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Allison Durno's 1st time through Pern books: online reports

Postby DebbieOhi » Wed May 05, 2004 3:25 pm

Hello all...I've been a longtime fan of McCaffrey's Pern books (and also just finished my comic strip, Waiting For Frodo http://www.waitingforfrodo.com), so was delighted when a friend of mine started reading them (she just finished Dragonflight). Allison Durno is posting her reports on her Livejournal, for those interested. I'm getting a huge kick out of reliving the books through a newcomer's eyes.

Her Livejournal:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/allison_of_pern/

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spoilers, thanks. :-) It's ironic, really...Allison introduced me to the Lord of Rings books and I posted my report online (http://www.electricpenguin.com/blatherings/lotr/) and now she's doing the same for the Pern books.

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