Anne McCaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern series

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Postby JoDark » Sun Apr 15, 2001 10:33 am

I'm thinking of starting them and was wandering if someone could give me some advise as to whether or not they are worth the effort? Thanks in advance.
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Postby Almacundo/*Auirandos » Sun Apr 15, 2001 12:40 pm

Boy, you've opened the floodgates here! You're probably going to get half the posts telling you they're great and the other half saying they're trash.<BR><BR>But in my humble opinion they are definately worth the time to read them. McCaffrey has a real talent for writing characters that you come to care about. When a couple of characters die together (whose names I won't reveal), one in the series from the very beginning and the other only in that later novel, I wept for them both. And the series concept is very good.<BR><BR>However, the series is uneven, so that while most of them are worth rereading again and again, a few will probably not be reread again. One irritating quirk is that while she seeks a lot of advice on technical matters and on the whole handles them well, in same instances you will have to reread them a few times to get them clear in your mind, she will still make a simple blooper that will have you shaking your head. For example, in the latest book, "The Skies of Pern", she writes of a planet ROTATING around its sun rather than REVOLVING. Sometimes it seems as if her editors get a bit lazy.<BR><BR>Still, I'm always eager to read the newest book when I see it on the library shelf. I just read the latest last week.
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Postby tnariel » Sun Apr 15, 2001 6:10 pm

I read a couple of them years back and really enjoyed them, let's see, Dragon Song and Dragon Flight I think? But then I tried to read a newer one recently and just couldn't get into it, too much about talking dolphins, made me cringe and think of Sea Quest DSV <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>One amusing fact I remember, however, from a talk I went to by the guy that advised her on her dragons. He's a xenobiologist, very good guy, lots of imagination. Anyhoo, can't remember exactly what it was, but I believe it was about how one of her books once started:<BR>"It was dawn on the planet..."<BR><BR>Couldn't take it all seriously after that <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR>
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Postby River_Daughter » Sun Apr 15, 2001 6:17 pm

I read the first one. Read 3/4 of the second one. Half of the third one. I guess I just lost interest. I did like the first one, though.
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Postby GoodSam » Mon Apr 16, 2001 9:37 pm

I liked them. I agree, they are up and down. I think Moretta was her best. It really affected my mood for about a week. Read it and you'll know what I'm talking about.
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Postby Erandil_Duiniant » Tue Apr 17, 2001 3:52 am

I think that it's a very good series. I think the idea behind her stories is thoroughly interesting, as well as the stories themselves. I like it when the dragons talk, the have such nice personalities.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby orodreth111 » Tue Apr 17, 2001 6:34 am

An excellent series!! 20 years ago, the Sci-fi/fantasy genre was getting a little stale. The Pern books, by blending the two together, really helped to jump start the genre. They are a good read. My personal Favorite is "The White Dragon."
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Postby Jhaerlyn » Tue Apr 17, 2001 9:03 am

THe Pern series is really worth reading for many different reasons ... I really got into them in high school and have been following them ever since .... i just read all the weyrs of Pern .... and I just ordered the new one ... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>
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Postby eliana » Tue Apr 17, 2001 10:43 am

the only books of hers i have read are the harper hall trilogy, which is three of the dragon series that can be read as their own series, dragonsong, dragonsinger, and dragondrums, very good
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Postby Glooskap » Tue Apr 17, 2001 6:47 pm

I had no intention of filing here, but my daughter was just looking over my shoulder and forced me to. She's a Pernatic going back 10 or more years. I still remember that damn grade 7 book review for which she recreated the sea cliffs of Pern and Melonie's (sp??)cave from "Dragon Song". She was up all night and I dropped it on the way to the car!<BR><BR>Anyway, she (over my shoulder)passes this on:<BR>1- Yes, the quality is VERY inconsistant from book to book.<BR>2- No, you should not waste your money on the new books. Everything important had been said before the dolphins started talking.<BR>3- Yes, Moretta, Dragon Lady of Pern, is the best book. Her bringing the Wyre forward is the highlight of the series(?), she says. (I thought it was Lessa's impressing scene.)<BR>4- Yes, the Harper Hall trilogy is as good or better than the main thread (no pun intended).Robinton is a great character invention!<BR>
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Postby ereine » Tue Apr 17, 2001 10:41 pm

I've read some of the books and enjoyed them, though can't seem to remember much about them. The Harper Hall trilogy was very good.<BR>
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Postby BillBo » Wed Apr 18, 2001 2:01 am

I think the Harper Hall stories are the best, too.<BR><BR>The Pern chronicals are hardly great literature and some of the later books are a bit unbelievable, but I love them, just the same.
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Postby Eponine » Sat Apr 21, 2001 6:39 am

I love the Pern series, in particular Dragonflight, the Harper Hall trilogy, and the 'prequel' Dragonsdawn (which, incidentally, you should only read after having read some of the others or it isn't as much fun). The only one I haven't been able to get into is Renegades of Pern, for some reason, but I would highly recommend anyone to read the others. Anne creates some marvellous characters who actually seem human, in Pern and in her other work (Sassinak, The 'Ship' series, and Freedom's Landing being my own favourites).
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Postby Erandil_Duiniant » Mon Apr 23, 2001 4:14 am

Asisde from the dragons and dolphins, her charicters are human, arent they? But if you're refering to the dragons, yes they do seem human. And her human charicters are believable. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Widfara » Mon Apr 23, 2001 5:20 am

Definitely a good read, and well worth the time. Master Fandarel's my favorite character. "Has been done, can be done..." <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Waxwing » Wed Apr 25, 2001 8:37 am

I'd have to second Glooskap's daughter... the writing is uneven, the quality inconsistent, and everything important came before the dolphins started talking. I don't think McCaffrey has anything new to say about that particular world. <BR><BR>The Harperhall trilogy are my personal favorites-- especially the first two books. (The last book leans too much on information in the main series, which I hadn't read yet, so I didn't quite understand what was going on.) The book about Master Robinton was okay, but not great.
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Postby Glooskap » Wed Apr 25, 2001 5:44 pm

Waxwing, I've got to know. Cedar or Bohemian? Just for my info???
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Postby Culwen » Wed Apr 25, 2001 8:59 pm

I enjoyed the series when I originally read the books, but, I agree, the quality of the writing is inconsistent. However, sometimes I reread the first 2 trilogies. Also agree with the person who said you really care about the characters.
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Postby Almacundo/*Auirandos » Thu Apr 26, 2001 9:12 am

"Skies of Pern" does indeed have more to say about Pern--the search for a new mission for the Weyrs after the threat of Thread ends with this Pass. I also hope that someday MacCaffrey will have Pern be redisovered by the rest of Humanity.
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Postby Waxwing » Thu Apr 26, 2001 9:51 am

Glooskap, it's Cedar. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> Though I've always liked the <i>idea</i> of being Bohemian....
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Postby Eponine » Thu Apr 26, 2001 1:05 pm

I've always liked the idea, not so much of Pern being rediscovered by the rest of humanity, but of maybe just one ship landing (crash landing?) on Pern. So we would be able to get an outsider's perspective, but not have Pern messed with. At least no more than it was messed with by AIVAS. Which was sort of necessary messing...but I'd best say no more for fear of spoilers in a thread supposed to recommend the reading of the books!
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Postby anya_Skywalker » Sat Apr 28, 2001 5:41 am

Well, I love the Pern books, although I have only read them to 'Dragon Song', and I think that they are pretty good. The only thing thta I didn't like was the way that the characters that were very important at the begining gradually loosed their importance, even though that's what usually happens in real life.<BR>Still, I advise everyone to read them. (And i wish I could find the rest of the books!)
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Postby austinallen » Mon Apr 30, 2001 11:09 am

They were all right.
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Postby erinhue » Mon Apr 30, 2001 8:47 pm

they were better than that<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>
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Postby JoDark » Sat May 05, 2001 12:32 pm

Well, I'd like to thank everyone very much for their contributions, I've just read the first five pages of the first one and like it.
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Postby Gargoyle » Wed May 16, 2001 8:05 pm

I enjoyed the first trilogy, and Moretta. The others I felt lacking. <BR><BR>For me, I really enjoyed the series when everything was still a mystery/fantasy in a strange unknown universe. As questions became answered about the world and the dragons (I won't mention for fear of spoilers) the magic slowly started disappearing from the world for me.<BR><BR>It was the same feeling I got watching The Phantom Menace when the Force was reduced to genetics and "midichlorians". The magic was gone.
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Postby Aeruthiel » Fri Jun 21, 2002 12:30 am

As a skeptical and critical reader, I found McCaffrey's books both interesting and fantastic. A very good read, IMO.<BR><BR>-<*>--<*>--<*>--<*>--<*>--<*>--<*>--<*>--<*>--<*>-<BR><b>As a representative of all that is Fluffy,<BR>I declare my presence. I worship the salmon,<BR>and pledge to respect its holy power.<BR>I am an RBer; prepare to meet your maker.</b><BR>-<*>--<*>--<*>--<*>--<*>--<*>--<*>--<*>--<*>--<*>-<BR>
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Postby wilko185 » Fri Jun 21, 2002 2:11 am

MILD SPOILERS<BR><BR>I must agree with Gargoyle. The idea of teleporting, telepathic dragons is wonderful fantasy (if somewhat "girlishly" implemented, dare I say it). When everything is integrated into a "rational" SF framework (agenothree/HNO3? oh please...) it loses something. Not a series I'd recommend buying in entirety, perhaps, but definitely worth a look. You'll soon decide if it's to your taste.<BR><BR>And I agree that the best tales involve Robinton and the Harpers...
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Postby Aduelda » Sat Dec 20, 2003 7:58 am

I definitely recommend The Dragonriders of Pern series to anyone who loves Science Fiction and dragons...mixed with a bit of romance. Stunning books...My all time fave was Moreta<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>ragonlady of Pern...truly a masterpiece <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Tuor_of_Gondolin » Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:10 am

Well, if we're recommending Dragonrider books...<BR><BR>I thought her original trilogy and the Harperhall trilogy were by far the best. After that, it seemed to me that things got increasingly stale and dingy.<BR><BR>Outside of her Dragonrider books, I liked Crystal Singer, and that's about it for books of hers that I think are worth reading.
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