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Postby Bombadillo » Mon Jul 10, 2000 1:49 pm

I've read the whole series and loved it. Great theories interwoven into outstanding sci/fi. Pretty soon I'll have to take some time and re-read the whole thing, all six books.<BR><BR>To anyone who's read all his DUNE books: What do you think the next one would have been about? I personally feel that it would have had something to do with the Bene Gesserit discovering and working to understand the power of music. Remember how they used to forbid the use of music because the passions it released were too powerful and impossible to control? Well, I think that in his next novel Herbert would have worked out some stuff on that tip.<BR><BR>What do you think?
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Postby DopeDragon » Mon Jul 10, 2000 3:00 pm

Yeah definetely!!!!!<BR>With the SPICE girls<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Bombadillo » Mon Jul 10, 2000 9:23 pm

Dude, the Spice Girls are evil and Herbert is good. <BR><BR>Comparing the two, bleah. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby DopeDragon » Tue Jul 11, 2000 10:05 am

OK then!<BR>How about if they changed to:<BR>The Melange Girls<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>"For I am like an owl of the desert,o!<BR>Aiyah! am like an owl of the desert!"
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Postby Waxwing » Tue Jul 11, 2000 12:10 pm

I read DUNE about nine years ago (!!) and I remember being very impressed. I haven't read any of the sequels yet. I'd have to go back and read the first one again to remember everything. <BR><BR>I saw the movie DUNE recently and I wasn't very impressed.
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Postby Magpie Jen » Tue Jul 11, 2000 10:02 pm

I'm with you, Waxwing. Though the movie does have its fans, I am not one of them.<BR><BR>It's also been a long time since I read Dune (and I also didn't read the sequels. Cosmic <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>).<BR><BR>I loved Dune though. So many fascinating ideas: the Spice, Bene Gesserit, the Worms, that black box at the beginning of the novel, the desert-suits, the Traders... Almost every one of those ideas would have had enough "nifty quotient" to carry a novel on its own. And then it's set against a huge political/religious backdrop to top it off. <BR><BR>I learned only recently that Herbert died before finishing the series (which makes me think I might be better off never reading the rest) and that made me so sad. What a shame.
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Postby Eluchil » Wed Jul 12, 2000 8:59 am

I read and liked Dune but I couldn't read all the sequeals. They just sort of turned me off. I do like the movie though. It's not great but it's watchaable and I don't watch many movies. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>I was under the impression that the serrieshad no planned end and that Herbert was just writing more books to fill the fans demands but I don't know for sure.<BR>
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Postby Gamgee Wench » Thu Jul 13, 2000 1:34 pm

<BR>I loved Dune, have read it several times, but I have to say things got alittle fuzzy for me with the rest of the books. Things convoluted to much for me but maybe I'll read them again and they will make more sense. I didn't care much for the movie either.
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Postby Bombadillo » Thu Jul 13, 2000 10:00 pm

The rest of the series was very different than the first Dune book, Herbert expounded upon several of his favorite theories, political, religious, economic, etc. Several of them were very profound.<BR><BR>A lot like reading the Sil after LOTR. Very different experience, very different book. Trying to compare the two is tough. However, after reading all six books I can say with assurance that my vision of the first book is completely different, especially regarding the Bene Gesserit which he goes into at length in the last two books of the series.<BR><BR>Every sci/fi fan owes it to themselves to finish this series off. If for no other reason, just to say that you did. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Addison » Fri Jul 14, 2000 11:25 am

Daoes anybody know what's up with the new movie version of Dune that the Sci-Fi channel is making? I understand its to be a six hour miniseries starring William Hurt(?) and has the cinematographer from Apocalypse Now! But, is there any new news?
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Postby Durin VIII » Fri Jul 14, 2000 1:20 pm

Addison the information you have about the Dune mini-series is correct. It will be on the Sci-Fi channel, and you can find out more about it at www.scifi.com/dune<BR><BR>It will be showing this December (a great Christmas present to us) and William Hurt is Duke Leto. Principle photography finished last May so it should still be on schedule.<BR><BR>I hope with 6 hours they will be able to do the book better justice then the Lynch version (though there were parts of that I really liked).
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Postby Chessara » Fri Jul 14, 2000 6:51 pm

I read all of the Dune series, and I liked it.<BR><BR>As for what I think the next book might have been about, I don't know why, but I feel that it would have dealt with Duncan Idaho and his great abilities, AND memories. <BR><BR>I don't think he would have continued with the Bene Gesserit as a main subject, I think that the Dune universe was ready to move on without out them. Or at least I feel it should.
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Postby MithLuin » Thu Jul 20, 2000 11:22 pm

I read Dune, and liked it. I read the first sequel (Dune Messiah?) and didn't really like it that much. I haven't felt any desire to read the rest of them, though I may some day. I thought the movie was ok, in parts. I liked the blue-in-blue eyes, and Patrick Stewart was in it. I think Alia was cool too...but I didn't really like the end...if I recall, they majorly messed up some of the stuff with the worms. Anyway, it was 2 AM when I saw it, and it was a few years ago, so I don't remember much. It's funny you mentioned the black box, Magpie. That's one of the scenes I remember vividly from the book, and I was even thinking of it a few days ago. Maybe I'll re-read Dune, and try to get into the rest of them if I have time. Though that isn't likely to happen anytime soon...
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Postby Pallando » Fri Jul 21, 2000 10:23 am

The best part of the Dune Movie was...Sting! Man, he was ripped! All in all, I liked the movie. I bought it for God's sake. I liked watching it a lot better after I read the book though, because I understood a lot more stuff.<BR><BR>Pallando
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Postby Bombadillo » Sat Jul 22, 2000 4:31 pm

Sting does rule, and in that movie especially. However, I always pictured Feyd as big and super muscular, like a linebacker, really intimidating.<BR><BR>Did you get the widescreen version? So much cooler, especially the opening scenes with the visit of the Navigator to the Emporer, really cool stuff on the sides that you don't see otherwise. Great sets all the way around I think.
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Postby Bombadillo » Sat Jul 22, 2000 5:09 pm

Hey, I just checked out the page for the new Dune on the sci fi channel. I love the new Beast Rabban and Feyd, but I think the new stil suits look kinda weak. Any other opinions?
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Postby Melkor » Sat Aug 05, 2000 9:05 am

Has anyone read House Atreides? It's Brian Herbert (Frank's son) prequel to the series. Leto is just a teen and you can see the beginnings of much of the original storyline. Brian doesn't quite have the command of language his father had, but it great for the information.<BR><BR>As for David Lynch's movie, I'm not sure there has been as visually stunning a film made in recent years. Lynch took a lot of liberties with the story (to my disappointment) but overall, the tone and mood were flawless. The costume design, the set design, cinematography, the acting...it was all beautiful. Of course it was also very "David Lynch" in his offbeat way. I however like his work. <BR><BR>This Sci-Fi version looks pretty interesting. I saw the preview on the Sci-Fi channel the other day. It looks very tribal. And very beautiful. Although I must say, the actor playing Stilgar looks a little water-fat for a hardened Fremen.<BR>
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Postby yangqin » Sun Aug 06, 2000 2:30 am

Dune,Dune, Dune. So five minutes ago... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>
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