Terry Goodkind "Sword of Truth" serie

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Postby theduffster » Tue Jul 23, 2002 7:22 am

<BR>SPOILERS FOR "TEMPLE OF THE WINDS" BELOW<BR><BR><BR>Hi, Rebecca! (I'm her mom.) I read WFR, then recommended it to Rebecca, when she was, hmm, 17? 18? She read it, we both liked it and read the next 2 almost simultaneously. Then I read "Temple of the Winds". Boy, did it give me a dilemma! Those erotic, "you must consummate your marriage and enjoy it" scenes were not something I wanted my baby to read. But objectively, I knew she was old enough, not to mention, if she didn't read them, she would miss something very important to the plot! The sex was not really extranneous. I was a bit uncomfortable when I knew she was reading that part. We were both like, "Sooo...what did you think? Uh, interesting how the magic worked, huh? Yeeeaah. Hmm. Having orgasms. Nice."
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Postby Aduial » Wed Jul 31, 2002 6:46 pm

I just finished reading The Stone of Tears. I liekd botht the books (and yes I loved gratch) though it somewhat overdoes some of the content. I am dying to read the next book, I couldnt put the other two down. My older sister got me into them. He's a good author though, making things long but not boring. I use some of the techniques I learn from those books to roleplay here - long, interesting posts. <BR>*Aduial*
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Postby dbrooks74 » Thu Jul 17, 2003 7:47 am

I thought I would bump this discussion up the discussion board with only 4 days to go until the Naked Empire book comes out. <BR><BR>I really like the sword of truth series. I am anxious for Richard to get some damn wizard training, but who knows maybe this book. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby Hobbituk » Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:17 am

<BR><BR>Well whatever you do don't post too many major spoliers for Naked Empire because it doesn't come out over here till August the 4th I think!<BR><BR><BR><BR>(although one or two tidbits here and there wouldn't go amiss)<BR><BR><BR><BR>It better be better than that pile of crap that was PoC though! A Truly awful book...if TG doesn't lift his game with this book (back to the level of TotW and WFR please) then he's gonna lose a loyal reader here!<BR><BR><BR>And no more preaching! I beg you!
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Postby Neenime » Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:17 am

Yeah, I really love this series, too. It is s-o-o--o psychologically intense. The first book just gave me shivers and the rest of them have been top-notch.<BR><BR>Thanks for the reminder that another one is coming!<BR><BR>Great summer reading.
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Postby dbrooks74 » Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:20 am

It should be great summer reading. I totally agree about the first book. I found it to be a little disturbing, but it was excellent.
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Postby dbrooks74 » Thu Jul 17, 2003 9:34 am

Anyone have a favorite among this series?<BR><BR>I like the second one a lot.
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Postby The,real,Maeglin » Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:58 am

First, second and THird book were my favorites, haven't read the last two yet<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Gladly Made Amarie pretty addicted to it and that did me good too<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby dbrooks74 » Thu Jul 24, 2003 6:10 am

The latest book <i>Naked Empire</i> is excellent so far. It is very similar to the earlier books, so the complaints about <i>pillars of creation</i> will not continue on in the series.<BR><BR>I just hit <b>50</b> posts!!!
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Postby Matrim » Thu Jul 24, 2003 6:52 am

Grrrrr. Naked Empire doesnt come out for a few more days here. *Sigh* Must wait. Anyways, glad to hear its not a PoC. Talk about an utter waste of paper.
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Postby Amarie » Fri Jul 25, 2003 3:49 pm

Barnes and Borders have Naked Empire splattered all over the floor here. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> I can't miss it.<BR><BR>Maeglin got me into Sword of Truth, but I admit I stopped halfway through Blood of the Fold. I don't know why I found it so darn tedious. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif"border=0> Maybe I was too busy at the time.
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Postby Dk_Strider » Fri Jul 25, 2003 6:21 pm

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Postby Dk_Strider » Fri Jul 25, 2003 6:21 pm

First book was great... i think it should have been a total of 3 books, lots of it was just plain boaring. didnt tell a story. first book was awsome, i HATE how all the series books repeat over and over again what the earlier books say. It ruins the book for me. the second to last book was about 90% old stuff repeated and 10% story line.. i HATED it. first book, def my favorite.
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Postby The,real,Maeglin » Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:04 am

I hope you will continue to like it Amarie<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> Not one of the books was as good as the first two, but still 3 and 4 are pretty darn good in my opinion<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>*hugs Amarie for reading it for him though*<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby drieske » Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:41 am

nice to see that knowledge and joy over books is passed on <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Darin_Bloodaxe » Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:04 am

Temple of the winds was a really rather tedious read for me, I wanted more of Richard and chums, which this really lacked.<BR><BR>Faith of THe Fallen though is is possibly the best book in the series so far for me. GoodKind seemed to start writing afresh from a slighly altered standpoint, refreshing intriguing and all I can say is wow!
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Postby Amarie » Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:32 am

*grumbles* I'll get around to finishing Blood of the Fold. For some reason, I had not trouble with the first two books, but I just found BotF tiresome. Maybe I needed a break from Goodkind? <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif"border=0> Anyway, which number is Faith of the Fallen? <BR><BR>I'm pleasantly surprised by this series. Goodkind has been all too commonly lumped with Jordan and Eddings. Though I've not read Eddings, I think this is an unfair assessment. Understandably, they all fit under sword and sorcery, but Sword of Truth goes deeper. True, his world building isn't as extensive as Jordan, but his characters are FAR superior. His women are well-written as well. Jordan's Nynaeve, Morgaine and Egwene (IMO) were just the same women to me (personality-wise) with different names. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0><BR>
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Postby dbrooks74 » Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:36 am

I have read all of Goodkinds book and have almost finished <i>Naked Empire</i>. I could not get through Jordan's first book even though I have tried several times. I really enjoy Goodkind's book though.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Amarie » Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:40 am

Dbrooks, I actually enjoyed 3/4 of Jordan's first book, but by the time they reached the um.. place where the Green Man lives, he lost me. I was bored. I couldn't have cared less if all of the characters dropped dead from food poisoning. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif"border=0> Unfortunate really. I thought Jordan had a good premise. His characters just distracted me from it.
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Postby dbrooks74 » Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:47 am

See you made it even farther than I did. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Now I'm sad. I wish I made it to the green man. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-crying.gif"border=0>
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Postby Amarie » Tue Jul 29, 2003 11:01 am

LOL. Poor dbrooks. *hugs* <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-devil.gif"border=0> Maybe the next time, you'll get even further. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Boromir209 » Tue Jul 29, 2003 2:39 pm

Ok from what ive heard and read (Ive only read the first three) The first 4 are good other than #3 which was a small disapointment but then the following books get real bad the author incorporates current events into the books and the writing gets off topic very fast.<BR><BR>Boromir209
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Postby peteratwar » Wed Jul 30, 2003 3:12 am

Having now read all the series so far printed, I feel that the Author is falling into the trap many authors do when trying to write a huge series. The early volumes are clear with a good story line that can be easily followed. Thereafter the standard of the series as set in the first 2-3 volumes decreases rapidly and the books become very difficult reading and often meander away from the original central themes becoming more involved and contorted (Jordan a very good example here). <BR><BR>Hope future books in series can get back on the rails. I really enjoyed the first 3 volumes, but went off them fast after that
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Postby The,real,Maeglin » Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:19 am

yes Drieske, you sure gave me a great serie to talk about and to read *hugs Drieske*<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>SO what do you think about the last books? you do owe them if i am not mistaken, and i still have to borrow them, after I finished Icewind Dale though<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>
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Postby Celebriel_Esgaledhel » Thu Jul 31, 2003 4:01 pm

oh oh oh!!!!! I LOVE THIS SERIES!!!!!!!<BR><BR>i agree with some of the previous comment "Pillars of Creation was a disappointment". i recently bought the book, 'cause I was DYING to know what wouold happen, and WHAT DO YOU KNOW!!!!! SOME COMPLETELY NEW CHARACTERS! oh well, it was well written, anyway.<BR><BR>i'm also a HUGE fan of Robert Jordan's WoT series. Great stuff!
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Postby Amarie » Thu Jul 31, 2003 5:06 pm

Ease off the coffee there. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> <BR><BR>Has this series ended yet?
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Postby Matrim » Fri Aug 01, 2003 2:25 am

Jordan is good but the man just needs to end his series already. Im about tired of being dragged on.<BR><BR>Anyways, Im dying here, waiting for the new book to get on island here. <BR><BR>Now, I know I heard a reference to the Icewind Dale Trilogy here as well. I love those books.<BR><BR>Must Reads after Icewind Dale:<BR>Dark Elf Trilogy<BR>Legacy of the Drow<BR>Amd his two newer series.<BR><BR>I have to admit I love Drizzt so much I have him tattooed on my left forearm. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Talk about a freak.
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Postby Celebriel_Esgaledhel » Fri Aug 01, 2003 2:34 pm

no, I hear RJ's gonna make at least two more books before he finishes the series :S
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Postby The,real,Maeglin » Sun Aug 03, 2003 11:40 am

Whoa Matrim, as fantasy character he is indeed my big example, even without knowing much about him, i loved his sentences and his appearance.<BR><BR>And i guess it was me who hinted at it, finished the first book in Icewind Dale<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>*Hmmm a tattoo of Drizzt, it might be nice * gives a wink to Amarie<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>*
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Postby Amarie » Sun Aug 03, 2003 8:57 pm

Don't you wink at me! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0> *tickles Maeglin*
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