The Lounge for Bookworms 6

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The Lounge for Bookworms 6

Postby heliona » Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:18 pm

Welcome to the latest Bookworms' Lounge!!

Currently under discussion is Richard Adams' The Plague Dogs amongst other things. Please feel free to settle down in any comfy chair and relax and contribute as much or as little as you like.

For those reading this who are new, here are the links to the previous Bookworms' Lounge threads.

A WORD ASIDE - A LOUNGE FOR BOOKWORMS
ANOTHER WORD ASIDE - A Lounge, Garden and Gothic Hall for Bookworms
A THIRD WORD ASIDE -- The Lounge, Garden, and Gothic Hall for Bookworms
A Lounge For Bookworms
The Lounge for Bookworms 5


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Our beloved lounge is one of the most comfortable places here in TORC. It is much bigger than you may imagine. It is a large place with a garden the size of a decent park and a gothic hall of special magnificence. Adjoining the lounge itself you will find a kitchen and an ample larder not only for our Hobbit friends, and the latest addition, I believe, is a soundproof music room. As a way to pass my spare time I have been trying to make a sketch of the grounds, but have not quite succeeded as yet since the lounge is puzzling me - we seem to have shifting walls or something of the kind because otherwise I cannot quite explain how we manage to have as many walls and bookshelves as mentioned in the descriptions to follow! But the lounge is a magical place, situated both in Middle-earth and our world, so you never know what mysterious things may happen, and the strangest and most unlikely of them you will only find if you enter this refuge of ours for a time. Be sure to join us in our thrilling Halloween parties that take place every year in the gothic hall. Not all the monsters you see there are in costume!

People of all races are welcome, of course. We bookworms consist of Elves, Men, Hobbits and even a Dwarf. If you should wish to visit us regularly, the latter may even ask to make a sculpture of you for our almost life-size chessboard in the gothic hall. Please do not be offended by his gruff manner - he has lived alone in a mine for some time and is not used to company, which also explains his frequent absences. At heart he is a decent chap! But not all our friends live inside the lounge: the Entwife, who has been here since time out of mind, is now married and lives in our garden with her Ent and their Enting Everyn, a surprisingly quick little thing.

It is my honour to introduce you to the grounds, and to allow you to get acquainted with us I will now make way for the original descriptions written by our bookworms, some of whom no longer frequent our lounge, but who will be missed and are welcome to return any time:


The Lounge
First of all, being bookworms, we need a lot of bookshelves, don't you think? Oak, I feel, or maybe rich mahogany, lovingly rubbed with oil over many generations to achieve a deep, warm glow. These bookshelves are vast, they take up two whole walls, surrounding the fireplace on both sides, and we need a lovely old library ladder on wheels to reach the books on the very top shelves. That's where we keep the volumes on Northern myth and Anglo Saxon history, Middle English and Philology. We've got rich pickings for all--books of verse and poesy, even The Blue Book of Fairy Stories by George MacDonald can be found; every edition of Tolkien's works ever published (of course!), and copies of works by the Inklings, some of them carrying original inscriptions from the authors. In the glassed-in section, in pride of place, 'Translations from the Elvish, by B. Baggins'. Yes, we have the Red Book of Westmarch under lock and key--only genuine believers can find the keyhole.

A couple of vast reading desks can be found, one under each of the four wide and gloriously high windows, which allow us to enjoy the last light of the westering sun and look out over a sea of golden green leaves in the parkland below us. Desk lamps, of course, of intricate Elvish design, for use when we draw the silvery woodland-hued drapes to keep out the chill at night. Though there are evenings when we throw open the windows to welcome the warm breaths of wind, redolent of green things and freshness. We breathe deep on those nights as we stand at our windowsills to glory in starlight and moonlight, enjoying the quiet companionship of our fellow bookworms.

In wintertime, our fireplace roars a warm welcome. It's large hearth is of natural stone, and its mantel is mahogany, topped by a mirror of crystal depths and rich wood with gilt carvings. Three comfortably squashy and well-stuffed old wingchairs, covered in damasked cream and wine-red velvet, are drawn close to the hearth, large enough each to fit two of us at a time. Yet there is also the sofa, covered in green-gold tapestried cloth which will comfortably seat at least 8 well-rounded hobbits. Three or four occasional tables stand nearby, oil-rubbed to a warm glow, with telltale rings of glasses, tankards and cups. Bowls of nuts and dried fruits are always full, next to trays of fine chocolates imported from the expert chocolatiers of the Ered Nimrais. Two occasional lamps lend a golden glow to the long discussions held around the flickering flames. Sometimes there are so many bookworms eager to join the talk that they sit on the thick, silky carpet, hand-woven with its intricate bird designs in exotic, spicy Far Harad.

Five or six more deep and comfy armchairs are grouped around a wide, low table at the other end of the room opposite the fireplace, within easy reach of the bookshelves there. Amongst the books on the table a manuscript can be seen: "The History of Pipeweed" by M. Brandybuck.

The eastern wall, through which our central entrance door lies, is whitewashed to reflect the light. A handsome old carved bureau holds decanters of fine liqueurs and brandies, crystal glasses, beer mugs and tankards, an antique silver tea set and a massive coffee urn, both of fine Dwarvish make. The walls display our artistic treasures; portraits of Frodo, Sam and Rosie with their smiling brood, a formal portrait of King Elessar with Queen Arwen Evenstar, whose beauty transcends the medium and radiates.

In a far corner is an alcove, through which can be glimpsed a handsome carved round door, painted a rich forest green, leading to the kitchen with its pantries full of Hobbitish goodies--pies, pastries, biscuits, cakes and on wintry nights there are also hearty soups and rabbit stews accompanied by crusty bread for those who arrive early enough.

Pride of place, above the carved bureau and covering much of the wall nearest the fireplace is a rich and intricate silken tapestry, whose fine needlework describes the Tale of Years, from the Two Trees to the bending of the seas, when Valinor was moved beyond the reach of mortals.

It's a comfortable place, this lounge. Despite its many riches it has been lived in enough to have a homey feel; the arms of sofa and chairs are slightly worn, the blotters on the desks are covered in happy scribble, books and notes and magazines lie on shelves and ledges; on the sofa near the fire someone has forgotten a cloak, and near the door, some mud encrusted boots lie next to the umbrella stand.

After its first opening, some glass doors were created in one of the walls and these give onto a wide and spacious terrace, with a stone balustrade, which has superb views. You can even make out the Misty Mountains if you try.

The Garden
At the end of the terrace is a beautifully hand-built wooden staircase leading into the garden. Made with help from the elves, the staircase is cunningly put together from bits of branches that had been lying around outside. They have not been planed, sawed, or squared off. All that has been done to the natural timber is the removal of the layer of bark from its sinuous natural curves to reveal the gleaming reds and golds within. The knots and knotholes are still tangibly present on the balustrades and uprights. The stairs fit in beautifully with the delicate timber decorations of the terrace and blend perfectly into the garden beneath.

Beyond the terrace is a flower border filled with pink and white roses, tall cosmeas, and lavender. A tall hedge runs behind with an opening gateway cut into it. Here a metal arch alive with bougainvillea stands over a swing door from which a path lined with shady beeches leads down towards a little white mock-temple with wisteria climbing over it. There are benches along the path, invisible from the lounge because of the hedge, cool and shady in the summer. Guarding the temple is a giant lime tree, and often in summer its sweet scent wafts across the garden right into the library. To the side of this vista is a small rise covered in elanor and niphredil with a gorgeous young mallorn at the top.

Spreading out to either side of the terrace, carefully tended and arranged beds erupt with the most astounding flowers you've ever seen. A cutting taken from this garden would win at any flower show. There are endless varieties of tulips and daffodils. Any hobbit would lose herself for hours among the snowdrops, hyacinths, and crocuses. The irises, freesias, and anemones are enchanting. And you might occasionally run into Samwise Gamgee in the ranunculus and jonquils. Forget-me-nots abound in the shadier corners of the garden. Small trelliswork arbours covered with rambling rose, honeysuckle, or clematis stand at various places throughout the garden providing cover for benches or chairs and tables.

Towards the western end of the garden there is an exquisitely carved fountain depicting Yavanna Kementári singing while she sits upon the grass of Ezellohar. Nienna sits beside, and her tears flow slowly down into the reflecting pool which stretches to the south. Behind the hedge at the end of the pool is a small orchard of peach trees with a little ladder for easy access. A cheerful little stream runs through the eastern end of the garden past a line of twelve palm trees and a small grape arbour. Invitingly green lawns of short, soft grass run from the flowerbeds to the eaves of the forest wherein dwell an absolutely charming Entwife with her Ent. At their wedding every bookworm planted their favourite tree's sapling in a special patch where, later, the Enting was discovered.

Looking back on the lounge from the garden, you can see Boston and English ivy climbing up the walls while night blooming jasmine rests under several of the windows giving its delicate aroma to those within. Lazy lawn furniture from deep arm-chairs to chaise lounges with down pillows can be found here and there about the garden in shady, secluded spots for those reclusive bookworms to curl up in.

Up against the wall of the lounge stands a large shed with croquette equipment and all the tools necessary for the upkeep and expansion of the garden. It's the perfect place to kick off your shoes, grab a glass of lemonade and sit down to your favourite piece of summer reading.

The Gothic Hall
A magnificent staircase descends down into the body of the hall from the library. The hall is a huge rectangle, and the steps are in the centre of one long side. They are broad and grand, the sort of thing constructed for formal royal entrances. A red carpet covers its fifteen treads.

The hall itself is a large a lofty gothic chamber, all hammer beam roof (merging into the purple haze far above) and carved wood panelling. The place reeks of history and mystery, and the carving is all clever foliage with little faces peeking out. It is a room that would grace any castle, or might be converted to a medium-sized cathedral with little effort. It might be copied from the Hall of Fire at Rivendell.

The floor of the hall is a marble pavement of black and white squares laid chequer-board fashion. In its exact centre is a huge stone fireplace from which smoke spirals up to exit through a louvred vent in the roof.

Apart from the windows, the colour scheme of the hall is dark - aged, polished wood and faded but splendid, cunningly wrought tapestries along the walls under the high windows. Dull gold thread sparkles among the muted colours which all show scenes from the Silmarillion.

Above the woven hangings, the windows are miracles of the glassmaker's art. The colours of the stained glass are jewel like, and along one wall, tell the story of Beren and Luthien, and down the other the story of Thingol and Melian. Light falls through them in long shafts of colour to mix and re-mix in kaleidoscopes of pure colour on the floor. In niches between the windows are statues of each person who has used the Bookworm's lounge since its opening, each shown reading their favourite book; and in more ornate niches the statues of the Bookworm Adopters with their benevolent faces and welcoming gestures.

At one end of the room, a vast window shows the singing of the Music of the Ainur, with Melkor and Manwë at either side of the throne of the bearded and beneficent (though thunderous) Iluvatar. Beneath this window is a dais on which is set a table and throne like chairs, ready for a banquet. At the far end, the window in the other short wall shows the Last Battle. Beneath it is a space for the best parties ever thrown. Directly opposite the staircase in the other long wall is a nice, big door that opens onto the garden so the Ents can see in and participate.

The Music Room
In one of the walls in the lounge the bookshelves go around a door that opens into the music room. It's not a very large room, but big enough to provide room for several musicians and a nice collection of instruments.

There are shelves on two of the walls as well, filled with scores and sheet music, as well as all the books that have to do with the theory and history of music. There are collections of songs from all parts of Middle-Earth, and volumes of information of how to perform them.

There's a baby grand piano in the middle of the room, and a slender, delicate-looking harpsichord in the corner. The two remaining walls are filled with instruments hung there, like a guitar, violin, lute, and other strings, and cabinets for keeping flute, recorder, clarinet, and other winds. All are waiting to be played or simply tried out by curious loungers who have always wanted to get their hands on some of those, but have never had the opportunity.

Needless to say, the soundproofing here is nothing short of miraculous. So none of the noise produced here will disturb the peace in the library.


Bookworm Birthdays (now in chronological order too):

Carnimiriel ...............11th January
Mahima.....................27th February
pretty galadriel..........7th March
Silwen.......................26th April
salean......................18th May
Jude (the Dude)........,23rd June
Eltirwen....................25th June
striderchick...............13th July
Varda Elantari...........4th August
Tae..........................21st August
oldtoby.....................2nd September
WyrtWif....................3rd September
BigMama...................9th September
Cel...........................28th September
K.Evenstar................4th October
Armenelos................18th October
heliona....................27th October
Gwenare...................4th November
Quimrill_Renctar........6th November
Elrin.........................18th November
Truehobbit................18th December

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Anyone wanting me to add your birthday, just say. :)
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Postby striderchick » Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:30 pm

Hello.. just.. adding myself to the reply list again. :D

Oh, I passed all my exams/papers. Two C+'s and two B-'s, so not the best results in the world, but definite passes. Now up to the task of figuring out "what now?..." Exciting to be finished though.
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Postby truehobbit » Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:42 pm

Oooh, shiney new thread! :D
See, I was too shy to just take over the thread away from Silwen. :D (Ah well, it had to be re-started. :) )

So, thanks for starting the new thread and linking to the old thread, too, heliona. :)


For anyone who hasn't posted here before, feel free to just join in, it's not requisite at all to read the intro of the old thread, and we don't only discuss books, either, but pretty much everything. But we do love to be around books, so we've created this place where we like to imagine ourselves in the library of our dreams. :D


So, either just picture yourselves among bookshelves and comfy chairs to your own liking, or follow the description that past members created at one point (I abridged it a bit to the essentials ;) ):

The Lounge
First of all, being bookworms, we need a lot of bookshelves, don't you think? Oak, I feel, or maybe rich mahogany, lovingly rubbed with oil over many generations to achieve a deep, warm glow. These bookshelves are vast, they take up two whole walls, surrounding the fireplace on both sides, and we need a lovely old library ladder on wheels to reach the books on the very top shelves.

A couple of vast reading desks can be found, one under each of the four wide and gloriously high windows, which allow us to enjoy the last light of the westering sun and look out over a sea of golden green leaves in the parkland below us. Desk lamps, of course, of intricate Elvish design, for use when we draw the silvery woodland-hued drapes to keep out the chill at night. Though there are evenings when we throw open the windows to welcome the warm breaths of wind, redolent of green things and freshness. We breathe deep on those nights as we stand at our windowsills to glory in starlight and moonlight, enjoying the quiet companionship of our fellow bookworms.

In wintertime, our fireplace roars a warm welcome. It's large hearth is of natural stone, and its mantel is mahogany, topped by a mirror of crystal depths and rich wood with gilt carvings. Three comfortably squashy and well-stuffed old wingchairs, covered in damasked cream and wine-red velvet, are drawn close to the hearth, large enough each to fit two of us at a time. Yet there is also the sofa, covered in green-gold tapestried cloth which will comfortably seat at least 8 well-rounded hobbits. Three or four occasional tables stand nearby, oil-rubbed to a warm glow, with telltale rings of glasses, tankards and cups. Bowls of nuts and dried fruits are always full, next to trays of fine chocolates imported from the expert chocolatiers of the Ered Nimrais. Two occasional lamps lend a golden glow to the long discussions held around the flickering flames. Sometimes there are so many bookworms eager to join the talk that they sit on the thick, silky carpet, hand-woven with its intricate bird designs in exotic, spicy Far Harad.

Five or six more deep and comfy armchairs are grouped around a wide, low table at the other end of the room opposite the fireplace, within easy reach of the bookshelves there. Amongst the books on the table a manuscript can be seen: "The History of Pipeweed" by M. Brandybuck.

The eastern wall, through which our central entrance door lies, is whitewashed to reflect the light. A handsome old carved bureau holds decanters of fine liqueurs and brandies, crystal glasses, beer mugs and tankards, an antique silver tea set and a massive coffee urn, both of fine Dwarvish make. The walls display our artistic treasures; portraits of Frodo, Sam and Rosie with their smiling brood, a formal portrait of King Elessar with Queen Arwen Evenstar, whose beauty transcends the medium and radiates.

In a far corner is an alcove, through which can be glimpsed a handsome carved round door, painted a rich forest green, leading to the kitchen with its pantries full of Hobbitish goodies--pies, pastries, biscuits, cakes and on wintry nights there are also hearty soups and rabbit stews accompanied by crusty bread for those who arrive early enough.


It's a comfortable place, this lounge. Despite its many riches it has been lived in enough to have a homey feel; the arms of sofa and chairs are slightly worn, the blotters on the desks are covered in happy scribble, books and notes and magazines lie on shelves and ledges; on the sofa near the fire someone has forgotten a cloak, and near the door, some mud encrusted boots lie next to the umbrella stand.



The Garden
Beyond the terrace is a flower border filled with pink and white roses, tall cosmeas, and lavender. A tall hedge runs behind with an opening gateway cut into it. Here a metal arch alive with bougainvillea stands over a swing door from which a path lined with shady beeches leads down towards a little white mock-temple with wisteria climbing over it. There are benches along the path, invisible from the lounge because of the hedge, cool and shady in the summer. Guarding the temple is a giant lime tree, and often in summer its sweet scent wafts across the garden right into the library. To the side of this vista is a small rise covered in elanor and niphredil with a gorgeous young mallorn at the top.

Towards the western end of the garden there is an exquisitely carved fountain depicting Yavanna Kementári singing while she sits upon the grass of Ezellohar. Nienna sits beside, and her tears flow slowly down into the reflecting pool which stretches to the south. Behind the hedge at the end of the pool is a small orchard of peach trees with a little ladder for easy access. A cheerful little stream runs through the eastern end of the garden past a line of twelve palm trees and a small grape arbour. Invitingly green lawns of short, soft grass run from the flowerbeds to the eaves of the forest wherein dwell an absolutely charming Entwife with her Ent. At their wedding every bookworm planted their favourite tree’s sapling in a special patch where, later, the Enting was discovered.

Looking back on the lounge from the garden, you can see Boston and English ivy climbing up the walls while night blooming jasmine rests under several of the windows giving its delicate aroma to those within. Lazy lawn furniture from deep arm-chairs to chaise lounges with down pillows can be found here and there about the garden in shady, secluded spots for those reclusive bookworms to curl up in.

Up against the wall of the lounge stands a large shed with croquette equipment and all the tools necessary for the upkeep and expansion of the garden. It’s the perfect place to kick off your shoes, grab a glass of lemonade and sit down to your favourite piece of summer reading.


And just feel free to let your imagination add anything your dream place needs. :)
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Postby truehobbit » Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:43 pm

striderchick, yay! Congrats! :D
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Postby Cock-Robin » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:34 pm

Yay! Found the thread before the other got shot down in flames!
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Postby Vanaladiel » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:18 pm

The large oak door creaks from the newness of the place and a small voice is heard.

"Hello?" A familiar face to many of the members here peeks in around the door.

"May I join in? I have not been as active a reader this last year with my job and all but expect to be doing more since I will now have hour long lunches and the time to actually devote to some of my favorite authors as well as picking up some new ones.."

I have not read the book that was mentioned in the first post nor have I heard of it but I am an avid reader and love the idea of the all time perfect library to sit and read in when the mood hits me along with the time. OH and to have such perfect company to sit and relax with. :hihi:
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Postby heliona » Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:09 am

:hihi:

Yes, Hobby, as neither yourself nor Silwen was online at the time, and the other thread got locked, I thought a new thread should be started before the old one disappeared! :)

I figured that just linking to the old one with the lovely description that Silwen posted (did she write it, or was it from someone else originally?) about the Lounge was enough - it didn't feel right reposting that and I didn't want to intimidate people with a long post at the beginning. :)

Vana! Welcome to the Bookworms! Don't worry about not having read, nor heard of, The Plague Dogs. Most of the time, I've not heard of the books people discuss. ;) And in fact, I found out about The Plague Dogs through this thread (well, sort of. I believe it was recommended in another thread and then was seconded on this one.), which I'd never heard of before. Once I finally got round to reading it, I loved it, and CR, Hobby and I got into a nice discussion about it. I will say that that is fairly unusual for this thread, though. ;) (The intense discussion, that is.)

striderchick! Well done! :thumbsup: Congratulations. And just relax and relish the idea of being finished before beginning to worry about what's next. ;)
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Postby truehobbit » Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:09 am

Vana, welcome! :hug:

The Plague Dogs is a pretty tough book, I think. Not too easy to read, IMO, and, what's more, confronts you with some pretty poignant images of creatures suffering - it's mostly an argument against animal testing. I'd recommend reading it, but only with that 'warning' attached. :)

I'd also mentioned a new movie called "Helen" and asked if heliona was planning on seeing it. :D


heliona, you're probably right that it doesn't matter who starts the thread, it just nevertheless goes against the grain for me - I tend to feel that these serial threads are pretty much the 'babies' of their hosts. Of course someone else needs to take over when the host has stopped posting. But you wouldn't just re-start the TVM, for example, if Tooks happened to be offline for a bit, or would you? :shock: Would anyone of the TVMers? I mean, maybe I'm the only one with that attitude to the thread host's prerogative, I don't know. :)

I liked your first post, short and to the point :) - and I agree the original first post had got a bit long to repost in full. But I also thought it was a bit intimidating to request that new posters read the beginning of the previous thread. :P (Even though that beginning contains people's birthdays, so I was tempted to say this was obligatory reading... ;) :whistle: )

Linking to the previous thread is a must, though, of course. :D (But that's just for reference. :) )

Basically, I'd also say that people can imagine their own dream library, but then, maybe some like to read a description. :)
The original Lounge description which I quoted was written by Novice (who doesn't post anymore) - I abridged it slightly.
The other rooms of the bookworms' dream house, lovely though they are, are later additions, so I left them out altogether, to reduce things to the essentials. :)
Silwen penned the intro before the description of the library, but it mostly described the denizens of the thread at the time and the goings on at the start of the previous thread. :)
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Postby Parmamaite » Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:38 am

Oooh, nice new thread :D

Congratulations on the good exam results striderchick :thumbsup:
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Postby striderchick » Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:43 am

Thank you Parma, thank you heliona, thank you Hobby. And hello to everyone.
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Postby heliona » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:34 pm

truehobbit wrote:heliona, you're probably right that it doesn't matter who starts the thread, it just nevertheless goes against the grain for me - I tend to feel that these serial threads are pretty much the 'babies' of their hosts. Of course someone else needs to take over when the host has stopped posting. But you wouldn't just re-start the TVM, for example, if Tooks happened to be offline for a bit, or would you? :shock: Would anyone of the TVMers? I mean, maybe I'm the only one with that attitude to the thread host's prerogative, I don't know. :)


No, I know what you mean. :) I did try to check whether Silwen had started all the other threads or not, but I couldn't get to them. :cry2: I wouldn't start a thread like the TVM because that is particular to Tooks. :) But some threads are just less "owned" by a particular person, I guess. As long as the thread is continued, then that's all right, sort of thing. :)

I liked your first post, short and to the point :) - and I agree the original first post had got a bit long to repost in full. But I also thought it was a bit intimidating to request that new posters read the beginning of the previous thread. :P (Even though that beginning contains people's birthdays, so I was tempted to say this was obligatory reading... ;) :whistle: )


I didn't mean to imply that it was necessary that new posters read the first post of the previous thread, just that it was lovely and worth reading. :) (Birthdays 'n' all. ;))

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Postby Vanaladiel » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:48 pm

I did decide to start reading again at my new lunch hours. So I restarted reading the Shannara series by Terry Brooks. I enjoy the stories very much. I have the entire series.
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Postby Cock-Robin » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:03 pm

I've never read that series but I've always wanted to. Is it good?
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Postby Vanaladiel » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:12 pm

I find it very good but then I don't expect my reading to be like Tolkiens. I mean he is a one of a kind and Terry Brooks works are definitely based on a lot of Tolkiens ideas. It has elves, trolls, wizards and a very back magic guy who is the evil incarnate also he has no form anymore because he is so warped by his use of magic. But the story is good beyond that. At least to me it is. I would say read it and if you like it continue but if you don't care for it then you should stop. I started in the second series of the Scions of Shannara instead of the First King of Shannara. But I know read it from the very beginning to the very end. Also I found that getting books at the thrift store is cheaper and you can return the books if you do not like them within a few days for something else. No loss no foul.
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Postby Silwen » Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:36 pm

:shock: So that is why there are no updates from the old thread. I did wonder why all was so quiet. :lol:

Good to see the thread is here. :) I don't mind heliona starting it though I did miss the old intro since it's always been there, even before my time. :P

I am too busy to post much anymore. :( And I haven't even brought out my Christmas smileys yet! Too much work.

I started a new book, but am not sure if it is worth mentioning yet. Must read some more first.
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Postby Vanaladiel » Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:36 pm

:hug: to you Silwen dear!!! Sounds like you are a bit overwhelmed at the moment. I hope things slow down and you find some joy in the season.
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Postby Silwen » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:44 am

Thanks, Vana. :) Actually, I shall enjoy the season - I am going to the German Christmas market in London today. :D With Mark and my colleagues. It will be cold and exhausting, but fun! Here is a link:

http://www.hydeparkwinterwonderland.com/

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Postby Alys » Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:04 am

How very appropriate that Heliona should start this latest incarnation of the old "Where's Wilko?" thread. If anyone knows... ;)
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Postby heliona » Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:54 am

Silwen wrote::shock: So that is why there are no updates from the old thread. I did wonder why all was so quiet. :lol:

Good to see the thread is here. :) I don't mind heliona starting it though I did miss the old intro since it's always been there, even before my time. :P


:D Well, I can always go back and edit the first post. :)

Alys wrote:How very appropriate that Heliona should start this latest incarnation of the old "Where's Wilko?" thread. If anyone knows... ;)


:lmbo: And I didn't even know that's what the first thread was called. :lol:
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Postby Alys » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:19 am

It was. :D He'd not posted for a while and some of us denizens (bookworms) of the Books - Tolkien forum wondered where he was - I think it was ArPhy who started the first thread. From there it morphed into a discussion thread and was deemed too chatty, and thus inappropriate for the Books forum, and so was moved to Talk. I'm not sure at which stage it was renamed/recreated as the Lounge...I think it was called 'A Word Aside - A Lounge for Bookworms' for a while too.

It seems a very long time ago now.

So, do you know where Wilko is? ;)
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Postby heliona » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:37 am

Alys wrote:So, do you know where Wilko is? ;)


I do indeed. ;):D

He looked at me as though I should have known that that was what the thread was originally called. :roll: I didn't even know who he was back then! :lol: People should probably start another thread - he's not been posting lately, despite encouragement. :D
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Postby Alys » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:40 am

Oops! I hadn't read any of the thread before posting and didn't realise that there was an on-going discussion regarding the starting of the thread. My apologies!

If it helps though, I'm pretty sure that the thread has been started by various different posters in the years of its existence - I think that I started one (though I could be wrong, I definitely participated in creating the description so it could just be that) but I can't get the search function to find it - I'm so useless with this search! Does anyone else remember who was in the original group? Novice, Me, ArPhy, Wilko, Hobby, Jeanelf, Niniel*,Mahima, Andri, Sirocco and PG maybe? Gah, I'm sure I'm missing lots of good posters and maybe even adding in a few extras!

Who's good at digging around in the depths of TORC? I fancy a rummage through memory lane... I see that Silwen does have links at the beginning of the last thread but the early ones don't work anymore. :(
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Postby heliona » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:52 am

Alys wrote:If it helps though, I'm pretty sure that the thread has been started by various different posters in the years of its existence - I think that I started one (though I could be wrong, I definitely participated in creating the description so it could just be that) but I can't get the search function to find it - I'm so useless with this search! Does anyone else remember who was in the original group? Novice, Me, ArPhy, Wilko, Hobby, Jeanelf, Niniel*,Mahima, Andri, Sirocco and PG maybe? Gah, I'm sure I'm missing lots of good posters and maybe even adding in a few extras!

Who's good at digging around in the depths of TORC? I fancy a rummage through memory lane... I see that Silwen does have links at the beginning of the last thread but the early ones don't work anymore. :(


I've got my resident Tolkien Guru working on it. :D (The reason I didn't include the earlier links was because I couldn't get them to work.) So shortly, there should be all the previous links in the first post (although neither of us can find incarnation number 4, for some reason). :))

I really wanted to credit the description, since otherwise it looks to new people like I wrote it. Atlhough I know Novice did most of it, others - such as yourself - had a hand in it too. Any suggestions as to how I can credit it? I don't want to seem like I'm taking credit myself.
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Postby Alys » Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:01 am

I wouldn't worry about that! Novice was the main author but I think a large number of people have added to it over the years, we used to do a fair bit of RPish type posts back in the old days and they often included descriptions and a fair few of those were co-opted I think.

You'll notice I'm saying "I think" a lot - I honestly can't remember terribly well! Gah, I getting old! :D
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Postby wilko185 » Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:05 am

I'm still lurking :D

I've edited links to the first five threads into the opening post, they were started by Arphy, Arion and Silwen. It does seem a long time ago, because it really was.
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Postby Alys » Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:18 am

There's Wilko! :D Thank you for fixing those links. Brilliant!

So I didn't start one then? Boo! I told you my memory was going. :D I could also have sworn that Novice had started one too. I see also that darling ArPhy wrote a whole lot of the description, how could I have forgotten that...

I'm going to have lots of fun looking through those older threads and cringing at my posts.:D

Edit: we did occasionally start other 'spin-off' threads didn't we? For parties maybe? Or am I making that up too? Maybe Novice started one of those? I miss Novice and ArPhy. :(

Another edit: Ah, I see ArPhy edited Novice's description into his post - that makes sense. I'll shut up now and just read and stop holding this thread to ransom!
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Postby heliona » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:15 am

Alys, you're welcome to hold this thread to ransom any time you like. :)
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Postby wilko185 » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:18 am

I don't remember spin-off threads (Adoptions excepted), but they may well have happened, maybe the links will be in there somewhere. For a walk down memory lane, paste www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/c ... m?catid=24 into the search at archive.org for snapshots of the old Talk forum. You can generally click through to at least the first page of posts. The Oct 15 2002 one has the second Bookworms thread on it (as well as Let's all laugh at the Scots! which I apparently posted in :oops: ). I can't see an early version of the original Lounge thread though.
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Postby Silwen » Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:53 pm

Wow, it is like in the olden days again now. :shock: I like it. :D
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Postby Parmamaite » Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:14 am

Merry Christmas fellow bookworms

I hope you're all enjoying the holidays as much as I am.

I'm staying with my parents in Jutland for christmas, my english nephew is also here with his iranian wife, so it's a very international christmas this year :D
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