The "Farewell to Torc" form letter.....

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Postby Gamgee Wench » Sun Jul 07, 2002 4:18 am

<BR><BR>Wow....am I the only one who doesn't see the humor in it? <BR><BR>Well, let me rephrase that, it is a hilarious letter....and very true... and very clever Oreo. Funny......but I guess I'm not into mocking those who are hurting, because when people leave TORC they are usually hurting. No, I'm not into the dramatics and whatnot...but I definitely understand the desire to leave, and sometimes people need to explain why....whatever. Normally I would have kept my mouth shut on this but for some reason, I didn't want to, just don't care anymore I guess. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Now you may all stop rolling your eyes at me and carry on ...............<BR><BR>
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Postby Veanne » Sun Jul 07, 2002 5:17 am

I've been guilty of this myself..though I never blamed the mods<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Nice one,Oreo<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby RavenTinuviel » Sun Jul 07, 2002 5:41 am

<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> I see the humor in it though I have not had need to use one of these form letters. Though facing some who wished to make TORC as unfriendly as possible for me since the beginning, I have perservered and stayed, even if I only occasionally visit. <BR><BR>I have laughed good and hard as I read not only the letter of Oredreth's, but Ent-Wife-Lost's form reply. How could anybody even think this was aimed solely at them I will never know, unless the shoe fits or their own minds really do overrate their own perceived importance on this message board. I can only see it as some good satire! <BR><BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> Well done Oredreth! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Oh yes... the Mordorian catagories are good too Legrace1 <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby orodreth111 » Sun Jul 07, 2002 5:42 am

Awwww.... GW, I am only goofing around!
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Postby RavenTinuviel » Sun Jul 07, 2002 6:03 am

Yes Oredreth, it is obvious satire! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Ok.. I thought about this a little and will submit my own 'form letter' <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> This one is for the oldbies who have to jump on and rail on a newbie for every little mistake they may make in the first few weeks of posting. I have seen it as many times as the 'I'm leaving' threads. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> actually this can be nade to fit into your form letter oredreth with a addition of a line:<BR><BR><i>...since <u>(enter newbies name/names here)</u> has really annoyed me and caused TORC to go way downhill, I am leaving...</i> yadda...<BR>Oh, it should have a line for 'date returned' at the bottom as well. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>GW, the thing is people have to take messageboards for what they are, and know it is so easy to get wrapped up to tight in them and make their whole lives rotate around them. I have learned from experience, and by the wisdom of my sweet husband, that the off switch on the computer does wonders in bringing back a proper perspective. If words on a computer screen make you mad or hurt, then the solution is the 'off' button... end of troubles if it troubling you. Remember, it is supposed to be fun! Laugh! Satire! Get it??? <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>
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Postby orodreth111 » Sun Jul 07, 2002 6:07 am

Raven!!! Great to see you!!! That OFF button does wonders some times!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>
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Postby Eponine » Sun Jul 07, 2002 6:22 am

I had to read that...and I also had to laugh a lot. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> Nice one!
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Postby InnocentEvil » Sun Jul 07, 2002 6:27 am

SNW, your Mordor awards hit alittle close to home (smiles in chagrin). I have a feeling I've qualified for more than one category more than once <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Ravenlady good morning to you <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby orodreth111 » Sun Jul 07, 2002 8:20 am

Yes, great awards Mary!
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Postby Canamarth » Sun Jul 07, 2002 8:47 am

I've seen a few of those "call-for-attention-farewell-letters" in my time (and usually never really understood what their problem was as I am blissfully ignorant of most of the bad things going on <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>) but I must say I haven't seen one as aptly phrased and soundly argumented as this one. Well done, Orodreth111. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby Inwir_Draunimion » Sun Jul 07, 2002 9:45 am

<BR><BR><BR>Let's not forget that some are indeed genuine........there are many members that I miss as proof of the fact that some departure letters are for real. My own preceeded a nine month absence......<BR><BR>Also, Gamgee Wench, I know what you mean, I had some of the same thoughts, but even when I've been in that place, hurt and looking for attention, I've learned to laugh at having been in that place. There is humor in <i>anything</i> if we simply choose to see it and accept it.
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Postby tuile » Sun Jul 07, 2002 10:58 am

OH Thank You Thank you thank you thank you, Oreo..<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR>Oh, you have NO idea how long I have been slaving over mine...almost a month now...just couldn't get the wording just right...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR>This is SUCH a relief..<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Thank you again Oreo!!!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR>Saved and ready!!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0><BR>LOLOL!!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby orodreth111 » Sun Jul 07, 2002 11:30 am

Yes, and therein lies the humor. Virtually all of us have been in that "self-pity" place. If I look hard enough I'm sure that I can find my own "Farewell" post. When one is writing it, it seems so personal and unique, but upon closer inspection they all seem to resemble each other after awhile.....
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Postby ILvEowyn » Sun Jul 07, 2002 11:52 am

LOL- excellent thread Oreo<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> I don't know if this is right, but a few certain people came to my mind when I saw this<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>
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Postby Adanedhel » Sun Jul 07, 2002 12:23 pm

What!? You mean you're supposed to post a "goodbye-everyone-look-at-me-I'm-pathetic" thread everytime you leave TORC for months?<BR><BR>Dangit - I missed out! I coulda posted about 3 or 4 of those in my long years as a TORCer/ex-TORCer!<BR><BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0>
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Postby Star-of-Hope » Sun Jul 07, 2002 12:43 pm

Maybe Oreo can write a special one for me <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-devil.gif"border=0><BR><BR>I, Star-of-Hope, after being continually misunderstood, having recieved hoards of hate email, and having made mistakes which are probably responsible for every catastophe known to man do hereby resign.<BR><BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0><BR>
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Postby hashberry » Sun Jul 07, 2002 2:04 pm

Oh no Star <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif"border=0> Please don't go! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif"border=0> - you are the reason I stay at TORC! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-crying.gif"border=0> <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-crying.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>*ahem* <BR><BR>sorry - couldn't resist that one <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0> JUST KIDDING - I know you are not really going <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>I have to say that you have more than enough good reasons there though <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif"border=0> (I mean you really are responsible for everything that is wrong eh? <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0> Why can't I get Tim Tams in England <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif"border=0> <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>)<BR><BR>but IMHO if people have nothing better to do than send you hate mail about imagined slurs, or anything to do with modding on a website actually, then I think they should seriously reassess their priorities and GET A LIFE! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0><BR><BR>but what do I know eh? <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> I'm just a fluffy swooner <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0> <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR>(who can't spell <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0> LOL)<BR><BR>oh btw - form letter made me LMAO <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Nice one <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>
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Postby FrodoTook » Sun Jul 07, 2002 3:59 pm

orodreth111

Your initial post has placed a smile on my face.

It was much needed...I thank you for that.

Cheers and Kudos.
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Postby fishy071 » Sun Jul 07, 2002 8:17 pm

Snowdog, now I understand what you mean about PJX copying the letter. Orodreth111, it is a good letter. ARe you and PJX doing all this as a joke, or is PJX really leaving?<BR><BR>If I ever decide to leave, there will be parts I'll leave out or change since they don't apply to me at all. Actually, I think I prefer to write my own letter.
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Postby Galadriel » Sun Jul 07, 2002 9:30 pm

You know, I've never said I'm leaving permanently and then come back. I've said I'm leaving for vacation or something like that, but never I'm leaving, it was nice knowing you, etc.. am I weird?
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Postby GoodSam » Sun Jul 07, 2002 11:11 pm

Hey!<BR><BR>That was really funny Oreo. I've seen so many of these things in the past, (and for some posters, several) that I've come to know it by heart. I for one will never use this letter or even make a poor substitute of my own making. If I ever decide to leave, it will be like:<BR><BR><i><BR>"Uh, have you seen GoodSam lately?"<BR><BR>"Well, he was just here a couple of minutes ago."<BR><BR>"Inny, weren't you in charge of caring for the hobbit this time?"<BR><BR>"Jeez! I always get the thankless jobs! Why weren't you looking after him?"<BR><BR>"Well don't just stand there, go look for him."<BR><BR>"SAM! SAM! WHERE HAVE YOU GOTTEN OFF TO? SAM!!"<BR><BR>"Drat and bebother that hobbit! I guess we'll have to press on without him."<BR><BR>"Without who."<BR><BR>"Um, I forgot. Let's start a thread complaining about the mods again. That's always good for about a week of fun."<BR></i><BR><BR>... and so on ...<BR><BR>Hey! I've got an Idea. You know how we try to reuse threads? Why don't we have a resignation thread? I could just see it:<BR><BR>From Moderator:<BR><i><BR>I have locked this thread. Please place all of your future resignations and fiery exits in the "I quit" thread. With well over 10,000 members, we need to avoid all the spam we can.</i>
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Postby InnocentEvil » Mon Jul 08, 2002 6:21 am

LOL!!! A resignation thread, Sam, you're promoted (to what, I do not know) <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>We slash and burn mods LOVE consolidation, plus it would give us another excuse to use those trusty padlocks <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-devil.gif"border=0>
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Postby spd » Mon Jul 08, 2002 9:44 am

Haplo, there's no crying in baseball and there's no crying in TORC either.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Oreo, we have butted heads on one or two occasions, but after reading that brilliant form letter I take back everything I said. Brilliant, utterly brilliant.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> And utterly hillarious, because it's utterly true. Down with self-serving exit posts!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0>
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Postby orodreth111 » Mon Jul 08, 2002 9:57 am

Thanks SPD!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>
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Postby Parador~J » Mon Jul 08, 2002 11:49 am

<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-crying.gif"border=0> <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> I know, I'm guilty of crying in other people's wheaties!...including mine... <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-crying.gif"border=0> <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>But, Dab nab it!!...I <u>loved</u> your letter Orodreth!!!!! LOL<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Yes, I will miss some of the people that have left...and it can be disheartening at times...but, we have to have a good laugh at our selves now and again...!!! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR>GoodSam...LOL<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby Snowdog » Mon Jul 08, 2002 9:38 pm

I was doing a little rsearch and I have found that I have actually made two exits. One was a thread, and one was a post in an existing thread, where I didnt say I was leaving, but it was interpreted that way.<BR><BR>Anyway, It is good not to take oneself so seriously! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0><BR><BR>And hats off to PJX who used it for good effect for his 'leaving' overnight <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby Gamgee Wench » Tue Jul 09, 2002 4:41 am

<BR>Awwwwwwwww...Oreo....I know you where kidding (I’m not a complete idiot, just an idiot)! But that doesn’t change my opinion.<BR><BR>Well, having read this whole thread and really thought about what has been said.....and realizing that I must be one of maybe 3 people who disagree (or 2 or 1)....I still disagree. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> I’m used to being in the minority, no big whoop. I did get confused by some posts....I don’t know what emails are being sent to whom....but if people disagreed with the letter, I wish they would have posted....kinda lonely here. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>First to all of those who did respond to me...thanks! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> I was surprised, just thought I would be ignored. <BR>And YES! I got the joke...really! I said so in my post....I believe I used the words hilarious, funny and clever...I fear Oreo’s ego will get too large so I left it at that. <BR>I got the joke! And I can laugh at myself....really (for pete’s sake, I own chickens as pets....I better be able to laugh at myself <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> ) And Snowdog....stick that tongue back in your mouth...very unbecoming of you! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>I’m just saying, simply, is that what is funny to some, hurts others. You know....the guy falling on the banana peel....we laugh, he hurts. When I first read the post...I laughed then immediately thought of all those who have left and really got sad, and thought if they ever lurked the letter would hurt them. I think it is great to laugh at ourselves...but I'm sure that wasn't the sole purpose of the letter.<BR>I kinda thought we wanted a “kinder, gentler “ board. Guess I’m sensitive to the teasing/mocking thing at this point in life....with young kids...who knows....its just how I see it. I am also very aware that most people don’t give a rats butt about what I think <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> , but I thought I’d post it anyway.<BR><BR>Now these are just my opinions....and you know what they say about opinions <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> We agree to disagree....no problem. <BR><BR>The Wench<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Snowdog » Tue Jul 09, 2002 9:46 am

<br><br><< <i>Snowdog....stick that tongue back in your mouth...very unbecoming of you!</i> >><br><br>Aw Gamgee Wench... Its hot and I been running around chasing chickens! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Yes, I understand your opinion dear Wench. <BR>My opinion is it does take a little bit of a thick skin to enjoy oneself on a messageboard. Not everything, especially satire, will be seen as funny by everyone, so do we prevent anything that may be deemed not funny by someone from ever being posted? It would lead to a pretty boring messageboard I think.
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Postby Drogo Baggins » Tue Jul 09, 2002 10:34 am

The thing that makes this letter work so well is that the people who write "farewell letters" and make a production out of leaving really want to stay and want to get the pity and "please stay....." begging. Sadly, GW, I think the ones who are truly hurting just disappear and we never know what the problem was.<BR><BR>Good work Cookieman!!!!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby Mithfânion » Tue Jul 09, 2002 2:18 pm

For Christ's sake, is there no one who will take offense to this man's post? Arggghhhhhhhhhhhhh! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-devil.gif"border=0><BR><BR>What does a guy have to do around here to ruffle some feathers eyh Oro! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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