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Postby Cynara » Thu Feb 07, 2002 3:09 pm

If you want an example of a good, well-written and cohesive story, scrounge TN up from it's final resting page, and read a bit. Well done in the extreme. If you want an example of abject confusion, read the first few pages of QoR.
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Postby Snowdog » Thu Feb 07, 2002 9:21 pm

Yay erinhue!
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Postby Tarina » Fri Feb 08, 2002 12:13 am

Bumping this up for Sil. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby erinhue » Fri Feb 08, 2002 6:24 am

OK class, I've saved the best for last here. We're finally getting to the meat of the thing, the Role Play Story Threads.<BR><BR><BR>Settle down now people I know you are all anxious to get out there but to go out unprepared can be dangerous.<BR><BR>The great hope of all such threads is to wind up woth a thread that reads likd a book, one continuous story written by a group of co-operating posters. Put an emphasis on the co-operation but we shall discuss that later.<BR><BR>In the attempt to realize that one great hope most Role Play( henceforth refered to as RP) stories have two threads, the Actual Story and the Aside or OOC (out of character)thread. Sometime a thing looks better upside down so we will discuss the last one first.<BR><BR>The Aside or OOC could be considered the buisness end of the story. If a poster will be unable to contribute due to illness, travel, etc they notify the others in this thread. Here the posters also discuss how the story is and will progress. All comments, questions or discussions should be posted in the Aside/OOC thread.<BR><BR>New posters should go to the Aside/OOC thread to let it be known that they wish to join the RP story. The new poster should <b>READ THE THREAD</b> and have some idea of what your character would be and how they can fit into the story. It is your responsibility to think this through for yourself. It is frustrating to say' I wanna join but i dont know who to be or what to do".because then you are asking the other posters to do your work for you and you most likely will not be welcome<BR><BR> It is important to inquire first because some threads close once the story begins, others will welcome new posters at any time, but perhaps they will tell you specifically at what point to introduce your character into the RP.<BR><BR>I cannot stress this point enough <b>READ THE THREAD BEFORE YOU POST TO IT</b> I have seen people jump into a thread and the post like they have no idea what is going on. They don't, they did not read the story. Posting that is is high noon when the last post put everyone to bed or be walking in winter when the rest of the thread is set in mid summer are examples of lazy posting. You can only get out of RP what you put in and sloppy lazy posting dampens the fun for everyone else.<BR><BR>Tonight's assignment is to pick an ongoing thread and see if you can think of a way to fit a new character into the tale. This is an exercise so don't go barging in to anyone's RP or they'll come after me with the torches and pick axes, MmmmmmmKay?<BR><BR>Next time we discuss the Actual Story Threads and some Rules(I hesitate to call them that) of Posting and Role Play Ettiquete.<BR><BR>'Til next time, and I make certain all the checks cleared, Class dismissed.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>
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Postby Idril » Tue Feb 12, 2002 10:51 pm

That was really cute erinhue ... mine cleared along time ago ... I think! I feel that this is an important thread to keep at the top in the RP Forum so making sure it is up there!
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Postby Galhadrim » Mon Feb 25, 2002 7:46 am

<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> bump
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Postby erinhue » Mon Feb 25, 2002 1:54 pm

Class I ask ya all ta bear with me, we'll continue soon as I clear up some questions with the Middle Earth Insurance Co, something about a fire in a downtown dentist's office. Be back soon as I clear it all up. It is no easy thing to have a dragonharp in your keeping
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Postby Idril » Mon Feb 25, 2002 8:22 pm

Oh Erinhue ... that dragonharp sure keeps you busy! You had best keep a better eye on him!
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Postby Galhadrim » Tue Mar 05, 2002 9:29 pm

One bump to rule them all,<BR>One bump to find them,<BR>One bump to bring them all<BR>and in the darkness bind them.
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Postby erinhue » Tue Mar 05, 2002 10:27 pm

BBLOL<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Ya go to the head of the class<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>
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Postby ~Turin-Turambar~ » Mon Mar 18, 2002 9:07 pm

Most important... read others posts thouroughly before posting your own!
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Postby erinhue » Tue Mar 19, 2002 6:00 am

Hail Turni<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>That is right folks and we cannot stress that enough
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Postby anya_Skywalker » Tue Mar 19, 2002 5:50 pm

And do remember, if you feel like you can't put two sentence toghether without making a huge mess...<BR><BR>Put 4 or five and ask for constructive criticism. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Idril » Wed Mar 20, 2002 1:26 pm

Just bumping this to the top as it also had some great info in it!
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Postby Khor » Sun Mar 31, 2002 8:09 am

<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif"border=0> Micheal_the_Maia, read this thread! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif"border=0>
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Postby KBrandybuck » Sun Mar 31, 2002 8:52 am

Role Playing Do's and Don'ts: <BR><BR>1. Read the threads. Someone started this thread, and some of the RPGamers are deep into what they are doing and have grown very fond of it and their interaction. You are more than welcome to join, but if you are coming into the story in medias res, be consistent with the general direction in which the story is headed.<BR>2. Please as delightful as it is to dream up incredibly off the wall characters, try to make them as consistent with the theme of the RPG as possible. If this is a Tolkien based story, try to tone down anything that is too outlandish and save that for a cross over thread.<BR>3. Please post. Avoid stomping into a game with a flourish, a shout, a threat, a huge problem and then freeze in place for a week, so that the other characters are compelled to move around you as if you were a piece of furniture. If you can't post for a period, try to say how long that will be and what your character will be doing while the action continues. An unannounced absence for longer than a few days will lead to the following post "So and so disappeared and was never seen again, leading the others to wonder briefly what had become of them before they got on with their lives."<BR>4. Never never never assign motivations to other characters, or emotions, or lines or actions unless you have permission or unless these are in response to the author's indications of what those motivations are.<BR>5. Take your time to try to spell, use punctuation. These are on going novels and people are reading them. Other gamers are not inside your head - they are reading your words so you must be as plain as possible. If what you are writing is incomprehensible, you could wind up being ignored completely while the orc battle goes on without you.<BR>6. No flaming, insults, etc, unless someone is a complete moron. At which case a gentle reminder (OOC: Please try not to throw up on so-and-so) is appropriate. Good manners get you everywhere!<BR>7. Please either read the threads, or ask for a recap if this is a huge thread. See above regarding "in medias res".<BR>8. Please read before hitting "done". Does what you have written make sense or will it lead to many posts such as this (OOC: ???)<BR>9. Tolerance is key. RPGamers come in all ages, all skill levels, with various abilities in writing, some more or less familiar with story telling, some who who young and inexperienced and their characters do some pretty silly things. The action can be gently redirected and with tolerance and guidance, the less experienced can learn.<BR>10. This is the most important: If you have never participated in an RPG before, read the Prancing Pony forum for threads such as this one and learn some basic rules before entering a game or even starting one. Your own enjoyment and everyone else's will be enhanced a thousand fold! And you'll be sure to be nominated for a Prancing Pony Oscar.
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Postby Khor » Sun Mar 31, 2002 9:28 am

KBrandybuck wrote:<br><br><< <i>10. This is the most important: If you have never participated in an RPG before, read the Prancing Pony forum for threads such as this one and learn some basic rules before entering a game or even starting one. Your own enjoyment and everyone else's will be enhanced a thousand fold! And you'll be sure to be nominated for a Prancing Pony Oscar.</i> >><br><br> I agree with most of what you wrote, however, there seems to be two philosophical lines that are taken here in the Pony. One is as you say here... <i><u>games</u></i>. The other is <u><i>Collaborative Writing</u></i>. There are the <u>gamers</u> and the <u>writers</u>. The first one seems to be shorter posts written quickly and the participants post them fast, making a chain of events. the second are ones that the writers take time to write a part of a story, and sometimes they posts are lengthy, and the other participants read it carefully and write a part, and time is taken between posts. It goes slower, and is <u>not a game</u>. The problems come when an established story is in progress and one or two or more one-liner posters enter and take the story off on tangents. This can khappen in an evening when some ot the threads writers are away on life's business off net. They come back a day later, and 30 posts have been made th the story, and they open it and find instead of 'chats'betweeen the 'new characters'. What then happens is the ones who write the story posts, usually get frustrated and dont post anymore. I've seen it happen before. <BR><BR>To be fair I have seen where someone enters a fast, short-post thread that writes big detailed posts and is considered an interruption. I have seen that as well. I think respect on both sides is needed.
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Postby KBrandybuck » Sun Mar 31, 2002 11:13 am

Khor, yes I've seen that to. Kind of a blitzkrieg! One should always modify to the flavor of the scenario, whether game or story. Even if a story, it's ok to keep the posts short as long as they are consistent
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Postby Khor » Sun Mar 31, 2002 12:11 pm

Yes KBrandybuck, but if the thread is a collaborative story, then a short post has to at least say something relevent of the story as well as being consistant, not something like this.<BR><i>so Khor went outside. he saw the lady and said 'Lovely day isnt it?</i><BR>Something like that may work in a 'gaming' thread, but does little for other writers to build on. More properly it could be written like this.<BR><i>Khor went outside after the discussion with Grond (referring to a past moment in a previous post) and there he found the Lady Rae. He walked to wwhere she was and said as he looked out over the countryside, 'Its a lovely day isn't it lady Rae?'</i><BR><BR>A short post but adds to the story, not like a chat across a table.<BR>Also there is nothing wrong in writing an overlap because it is interaction. Is someone moves your character along some, then you could write parallel to what they wrote. a much better enjoyment for me as opposed to the chat gaming, which more often than not is interrupted by oocs chat as well.<BR><BR>Just my opinion, but I wish the good writers to continue and not get frustrated with the flood.
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Postby KBrandybuck » Sun Mar 31, 2002 8:16 pm

<i>Kbrandybuck logged on to TORC and scrolled down to the Thread entitled "Role Playing 101" She read the last post, advice from Khor regarding the level of detail which might prove useful in a collaborateive writing thread." Hmm., she thought to herself. "I hope I wind up in a scenario with Khor one day as he seems to have his wits about him."</i>
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Postby erinhue » Sun Mar 31, 2002 8:29 pm

<BR>while I agree with this assessment I must say again this is a case of quality vs quantity. A short post can be most informative and move a story as much as a longer more detailed one. <BR><BR>I also agree about the two styles but most RP in the Pony is Story rather than Game. As to the rest this is why it is so very important to <b>READ THE THREAD FIRST</b><BR><BR>Reading the thread will quickly show you what style the posters are following, you should fit in to it, not expect the other posters to adapt to you. Ya don't come to someone's house and start moving furniture (I think I said that somewhere before)<BR><BR>Making sure to check in a the OOC or Aside thread can also help with the problem of the story getting off track.
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Postby Jaxon » Mon Apr 01, 2002 6:05 pm

You guys bring a tear to my eye...no joke. If only others were are thoughtful and enlightened.<BR><BR>While I agree with you erinhue, short posts can be effecitive, the ones that make me wish the character would just die are the ones that are those one line sentences. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> Freaky characters are also a bit of a pain especially if they don't fit into a story. One other thing, then I'll bundle off - if a story has a plot outline or background - develop a character to suit, or mold your character into the plot in a believable way. I know that it's all in fun...but I'm afraid it's no fun for me unless it's good too!<BR><BR>Cheers all!
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Postby erinhue » Mon Apr 01, 2002 7:20 pm

I feel the same way. some of those one line posts don't do anything at all but lay there giving nothing to the story and leaving nothing for the next poster to work with and Yeah I'd like to let Agarak set fire to thoses who post things like "and the elf went along with the others." Or " Yes." We all despise that sort of deadhead post
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Postby *Silvertears* » Tue Apr 02, 2002 5:24 pm

Hail, Erinhue!!<BR><BR>First, let me say a few things: I am no newbie, I am well posted at RB, and know a couple people here and there. (EntwifeLost in particular, and Erinhue, any friend of Enty's is a friend of mine. Tell her she needs to get back to Fangorn if you talk to her please!)<BR><BR>I GREATLY appreciate OOC:/AWA threads. They are miracle workers! I read those even if I don't join them, because they help me understand things. Thank you for talking about those first.<BR><BR>Secondly, I appreciate what you vets are doing! RPG Dummies get on my nerves, but they seem to be quite abundant in the Pony. Makes ya want to slash and burn a few people.... This is an ingenious idea! They should make this a required read before you post in the Pony. I mean it.<BR><BR>Thirdly.... I want to be a bard!!!! I was supposed to contact you, Erinhue. Email or find the Bard thread?<BR><BR><BR>Thank you very much!!<BR><BR>~Silvertears
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Postby erinhue » Tue Apr 02, 2002 6:08 pm

Silvertears (and anyone else) check out the "Apprentice Bard Auditions" thread and you will see what I mean by ABC's Post one of your own there with a Tolkien-ish theme and the Guild will look it over and respond. Click the link in my signature and check out the GuildHouse, Calenrond.
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Postby elora » Thu Apr 04, 2002 1:50 am

You <i>don't</i> just walk into someone's house and move the furniture about?<BR><BR><i>Incredulous voice turns thoughtful.</i><BR><BR>Hmmm, pardon me one moment please.<BR><BR><i>An apologetic voice now (very flexible vocal chords) mutters, "So sorry about that. I'll just put it back where I found it and be on my way then, shall I? No, no. No need to call the local law enforcement..." A dragging noise is heard as the lounge chair, with its occupant, is returned to its earlier location, a door shuts, and another opens.</i><BR><BR>Right then, where was I? Oh yes, thanks for the tip Erinhue!<BR><BR>I think the point about fitting into the general theme and style of a RP (be it story or game) is vitally important. Trying to force the others to bend around your writting/interaction/character preferences is a futile and frustrating pursuit. <BR><BR>Read the RPG, understand the basis for your interactions and make sure you fit into the overall scheme of things. Regardless of whether it's storytelling or gaming, you are interacting with others. Therefore, you must be able to relate with those involved. Misunderstandings and confusion is often inevitable as threads develop and plots/sub-plots take shape. But by endeavouring to fit what you post, who you post and how you post, they can be overcome simply and all friendly like.<BR><BR>Just my opinion (lordy, who woulda thought I had one of those). But from what I've observed, its when others try to force a thread out of it's style by ignoring it or stumping it with incompatible posts that the fur, scales, skin whatever flies.
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Postby SilverScribe » Sat Apr 06, 2002 10:14 am

<BR>Oh, this needs a big ol' BUMP.<BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR>
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Postby SilverScribe » Fri Apr 12, 2002 7:00 am

<BR>And again . . .<BR>~BUMP~<BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR>
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Postby Snowdog » Fri Apr 12, 2002 7:52 am

...and this one should be tacked too. Actually the two threads should be combined, tacked to the top, and nobody can post in the Pony without posting to the 'Guidelines' thread saying they read and will abide by the <b>Good Role-Rlaying Guidelines</b>! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Galhadrim » Sun Apr 14, 2002 7:14 am

B<BR>U<BR>M<BR>P
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