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Postby SilverScribe » Mon Apr 15, 2002 7:39 am

<BR>BUMPIN' the good stuff.<BR><BR>Go to first post and read forward. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>
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Postby Hunter » Mon Apr 15, 2002 9:23 am

<BR>I wish something like this would have been around when I first started in the Pony, it is chock full of great information as is the other thread started by Nilson. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>I can only emphasize how important reading is. Read all of the posts in the thread you are in or wish to join. It helps also to read some of the other quality threads that are written in the Pony. Not only do you get see the different styles that people use in writing, but you can get the feel for how a story ebbs and flows according to the different writers and how everything eventually meshes together.<BR><BR>Another thing that I have found helpful is to create minor characters along the way. They can be very useful in fleshing out your own character and can move a story along in many ways. They can supply needed information, cause minor or major changes in direction, add interest to a story and can even be expendable.<BR><BR>
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Postby Snowdog » Mon Apr 15, 2002 11:25 am

What Hunter says! She is a most excellent roleplayer!
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Postby erinhue » Mon Apr 15, 2002 1:08 pm

And Snow Dog is a Master<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>
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Postby SilverScribe » Fri Apr 19, 2002 10:32 am

<BR>Just bumping this excellent thread for the newbies . . .<BR><BR>**Scribbles <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby SilverScribe » Wed Apr 24, 2002 7:23 pm

<BR>And again . . .
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Postby SilverScribe » Tue May 14, 2002 9:05 pm

<BR><BR>Sheesh, three times lucky. BUMP! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Go to first post in this thread and read from there. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR>
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Postby Idril » Mon May 20, 2002 1:11 pm

Just a bumping this to the top!!! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>
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Postby Khor » Mon May 27, 2002 11:03 am

Read this dammit!
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Postby SilverScribe » Mon Jun 03, 2002 12:21 pm

<BR>Now, now Khor, be nice. Though I do understand the sentiment! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>All you who enter here looking for information, proceed to the first post and happy reading!!<BR><BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>
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Postby InnocentEvil » Thu Jun 06, 2002 8:36 am

An incredibly helpful and pertinent thread that's more relevant today that ever!!!
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Postby Running-Deer » Thu Jun 06, 2002 12:04 pm

Hear Hear Innocent Evil!!! I am just bumping this up top!
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Postby InnocentEvil » Fri Jun 07, 2002 7:46 am

Any contributions from the other members of our experienced RP'ing team would be hugely welcome.<BR><BR>Also, please see Ashlei's Inn thread in Tolkien Online- The One Ring forum where Snowdawg has helpfully posted several sites that welcome fast paced RPG style writing.
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Postby Snowdog » Fri Jun 07, 2002 8:36 am

<b>How to avoid the dreaded One Line Post in an RP STORY and getting the Pony shut down.</b><BR><BR><UL><BR><li>Be literate! <BR>That dont mean every word has to be spelled correctly or every word used correctly, but it does mean some effort needs to be put into what is being typed. Absolutly [n]NO</b> netspeak!<BR><li>find a thread to join.<BR>Many Inns and tavern threads are already started and can be used to post a characters entrance and work on interaction. This is a great way to get a feel for writing RP. No need to start a thread for every thought.<BR><li>Think about the RP as a whole.<BR>If you are going to start a thread, then put some thought into it. any person starting a thread should set the scene well with some description. Its a tavern... Ok where is it located? what does it look like? Is it in town or a remote roadhouse? Is it a respectable place or a dive? Etc.This is also where you build your characters basic descriptions. You have to go in with a fair idea about your own character.<BR><li>Set the scene.<BR>Your character is arriving at said tavern. Is it raining or sunny? Day or night? Is there birds singing or it hot and flies are biting? Etc. Ok, goes inside the tavern. Is it dark and smokey, or bright and cheery? Is there lots of patrons or a few? Is there entertainment or not, and is the bartender a handsome man or old codger? Describe the room.<BR><li>Character description.<BR>This is where you use the things you compiled on your character. It is not necessary to describe your character all in the first post, but some details are essential. Tall or short, maybe hair length or such, or maybe a defining scar or type of stare... other things like eye color and such can be added after they start to interact with other characters, etc.<BR><li>Character enhancements.<BR>These are the things that define the character's demenaor<BR></UL><BR><BR>There are more, but this is an example. using the above, lets see what we can come up with for a basic tavern's opening post and a subsequent characters post... (the post will be in italics and my comments will not)<BR><BR>First, a lousy first RP post:<BR><BR><i>The woman came to the tavern and walked in. She went to order a drink and sat down at an empty table, looking around at other people.</i><BR><BR>Now, lets look at a reasonably good first RP post:<BR><BR><i>The rain was cold as it blew hard against the door of the tavern. A tall woman wrapped in a dark cloak dismounted and secured her horse to the railing. She looked around out of habit before pushing open the door. The creaking hinge announced her entry as it does everyone who enters the Dog Bone.<BR><BR>She looked around at the grim faces that sat about the tables and lined the bar, but soon they turned away and carried on with their business. Dahrla walked slowly to an open section of the bar and threw back her hood to let her golden brown long hair cascade about her shoulders, hoping it would get the attention of the bartender. She gets a mead with her copper coin she found in her cloak pocket and she looks around for a place to sit. <BR><BR>An empty table in the middle of the floor is all she sees and prefers to stand and lean on the bar where she is. She sips her mead and her eyes drift about the room, taking note of people that interest her.</i><BR><BR>Ok, now lets disect this post to show how it 'talks' to the reader....<BR><BR><i>The rain was cold as it blew hard against the door of the tavern. She looked around before pushing open the door</i>(Scene)<BR> <BR><i>A tall woman wrapped in the dark cloak</i> (character description)<BR><i>dismounted and secured her horse to the railing.</i> (Scene and character enhancement. The character has a horse, and the tavern has a railing outside)<BR><BR><i>She looked around out of habit before pushing open the door.</i> (Character enhancement - she is wary)<BR><BR><i>The creaking hinge announced her entry as it does everyone who enters the Dog Bone.</i> (scene enhancement - gives the place character of its own)<BR><BR><i>She looked around at the grim faces that sat about the tables and lined the bar</i> (more scene enhancement - the place is rather crowded)<BR><BR><i>but soon they turned away and carried on with their business.</i> (The NCE's (<u>n</u>on-<u>c</u>ontrolled-<u>e</u>ntities) activities are stated in a general way to allow alttitude for other characters to join by being in the Tavern)<BR><BR><i>Dahrla</i> (character building - her name is given to the readers)<BR><BR><i>walked slowly to an open section of the bar and threw back her hood to let her golden brown long hair cascade about her shoulders,</i> (character description - tells reader of her hair)<BR><BR><i>hoping it would get the attention of the bartender.</i> (Character enhancement - gives the implication she is pretty)<BR><BR><i>She gets a mead with her copper coin she found in her cloak pocket</i> (character enhancement - she is poor)<BR><BR><i>and she looks around for a place to sit.</i> (Character action)<BR><BR><i>An empty table in the middle of the floor is all she sees and prefers to stand and lean on the bar where she is.</i> (scene setting and character enhancement - The place has little room, and the character dont wish to be in the center of things)<BR><BR><i>She sips her mead and her eyes drift about the room, taking note of people that interest her.</i> (character action - character settles in and opens up the RP for interaction).<BR><BR>Ok.. short but it will do. The more you can add to the scene setting like locations and such the better, however, make it flow well, for too much information packed into one post can be confusing, and you can give out more details in later posts as well.<BR><BR>Now, poster #2 reads the above and thinks of joining. His lousy interaction post would be something like this:<BR><BR><i>The guy turned to the woman and offered to buy her a drink. He said, 'You are beautiful, can I buy you a drink?</i><BR><BR>Now, lets look at poster #2's good interaction post:<BR><BR><i>The tall man had been drinking most of the night. He was thinking of leaving when the door was heard and he looked over to see a cloaked stranger enter. He could tell by the eyes that shone form under the hood and the size of the person there was a good chance it was a woman, so he slowly moved over closer to the guy next to him to make room at the bar. He knew the place was crowded and hoped she would find the opening. It worked! she came as expected! Her hair brushed agains him as she removed her hood, and he watched as she fumbled for a coin, and only affording a mead. He looked at her as she ignored him and he said, 'I could buy you something better if you wish m'lady'</i><BR><BR>I wont break it all down as I did the other as its late for me, but it has the same things as the opening post, for it is in effect the opening post for poster #2. He uses what poster #1 threadstarter wrote to good advantage, and enhances poster #1's character in ways #1 may not have seen. example, she went to the bar next to a man who was just an NCE to her, and she showed no acnowledgement to him which is fine. One cant acnowledge every NCE... so #2 used that man to introduce his presence in the tavern and show she was used to such places by ignoring most people. Note he did not introduce his character because he is only described as 'a tall man'. This leaves room for future posts. He also picked up on things like the door squeaking and such.<BR><BR>When written this way, each post adds depth and character to the scene, and others who join have ever more material to use as they join.<BR><BR>Hopefully this may help in showing what is expected in RP here in the Prancing Pony vs what has been happening. Give it a read please! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Raavi » Fri Jun 07, 2002 9:52 am

*claps widly* I agree with every sentence of it! Good job!
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Postby ~Turin-Turambar~ » Sat Jun 08, 2002 7:43 am

The proof will be in the writing Raavi. Do well.<BR><BR>I have to say that things have slowed down and the writing in most threads have improved alot since the shut down and crack down. Lets keep the stories flowing and remember, if you are moving the story along, then post to your RP, but if you're going to post a line in a conversation, then dont post unless you are going to write out the exchange. <BR><BR>This brings up something I have seen go on here and usually results in the 'one-liner' posts rapidly filling a page in an rp. Character control. A big part of RP interaction is to understand the other characters so one can write a converse in one post, saying what the other character would possibly say. Yes, that means soneone else 'controls' your character for the conversation, but when the reply comes, then you control theirs. THis makes for a better flow and moves things along faster without having to post 50 posts of one or two lines of dialog each post. One being completely in control of their character in every word is not interaction, but also one must let others know of their characters demeanor and such, so one will have an idea how their characters would have a conversation. Any major action or decisions would be left to the writer of the character, so if one is needed in the conversation, then afterward the post should be left open for a reply.
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Postby lalatiel » Sun Jun 09, 2002 6:45 pm

Hey, there! I'm relatively new at RP'ing... but I've got my character and I know a bunch about her, but you know, just like any writer, I'm still figuring her out, but that's not the point. Have you ever RP'ed in an RPG with me? I'd like to know if I'm any good at this sort of thing, or at least if I'm not a nuisance. You can find me in the Cry of the Wolf or the Hills of the Mark... and don't just say 'I'm sure your wonderful'! Can ya please take a look and let me know? Thanks!
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Postby Snowdog » Mon Jun 10, 2002 9:10 am

I will be glad to give you my opinion after I read the ones you mention lalatiel, which dont mean much. I think you are giving it a conscience effort.<BR><BR>I read Hills of the Mark, and your writing is really good! You are not 'the problem'. You give a vision and also carry the story along. Give yourself time and keep writing your posts that well and you will have no problems. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Rogue Moderator » Mon Jun 10, 2002 9:58 am

I just directed someone to this thread. Wanted to have it on the first page so they won't miss it.<BR><BR>If you want to RP, read this first.
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Postby GlassHouse » Mon Jun 10, 2002 1:24 pm

What's with this new Rogue Moderator handle?<BR><BR>A response to the one liner, RP-lite controversy? I ask because this particular handle seems to be fairly new (about a hundred posts at this writing).<BR><BR>I'm all for raising the level of writing on the RP's. It's a worthy cause that addresses a real problem and so far it's been carried out with a delicate balance of tact and amiable firmness. <BR>But I suggest that this handle might send a bad message. I would think that this is just the kind of image you'd want to avoid in the midst of an ongoing effort to educate and the patrons of the Pony. That of some arbitrary authority figure riding rough shod over the boards. <BR> <BR>I'm sure it was indented to be a light hearted play on words, and a response to the complaints of some those who where targeted as the worst offenders. <BR>I can understand why someone would get frustrated at the complaints of those who can't seem to get the message that TORC has rules. And I see the humor in taking on just the identity that some have accused the moderators of having. But I can also see how this might be detrimental to the spirit of the Pony.<BR>It's never easy to be in charge of enforcing rules, especially in a case like this, when so many are being told that they haven't met the standards of the board. I suggest that this kind of <i>apparently</i> arrogant image is just not helpful to the friendly atmosphere of TORC.<BR><BR>Just my opinion, of course.
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Postby Idril » Tue Jun 11, 2002 12:30 am

Just saw that this was down aways and thought it needed bumping. <i>Shudders as she notices that Rogue Moderator has entered this thread.</i><BR><BR>Oh and now I see there is a question which I will try to help answer. First of all, <b>lalatiel</b> you do a nice job at writing. I wish that I was that good when I first started! I was slow and only stayed in one thread for a very long time until I had built loads of convidence. Then the first few threads that I tried to start were dead ends which was discouraging. But I have survived.<BR><BR><b>glasshouse</b> well let me see if I can answer this question. Rogue Moderator is older than you are for starters. I really don't like to see Rogue Moderator because then something is REALLY wrong. This Moderator comes outta the woodwork when something needs <u>drastic attention</u>. I guess Rogue gets peoples attention well; just glad that we have never met! (waves nicely at the moderator)<BR><BR>One thing that I do know after more than 2 years on these boards though is that Jon & Ted <i>personally</i> ok each and every user name. They obviously feel this Moderator name is needed or they wouldn't have ok'd the name. Hope that helps to answer your question.<BR><BR>Oh yeah and B U M P!!!
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Postby Snowdog » Tue Jun 11, 2002 12:19 pm

Rouge Moderator come in to kick butt. He is around all the time.
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Postby GlassHouse » Tue Jun 11, 2002 1:15 pm

I see, sort of a board boogieman (boogiewoman?)<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR><BR>well why not? boogie woogie - blues - lowdown - evil- bringer of pain<BR><BR>It can't all be fun and games.<BR><BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Rogue Moderator » Tue Jun 11, 2002 2:14 pm

Glass House, though others have jumped in to speak on my behalf, I prefer to use my own voice.<BR><BR>My name is exactly what you've suggested: a play on words based upon the ridiculous assumption some have that we operate out of our own sense of vengance. The thought that we're lone wolves wandering the boards looking for prey.<BR><BR>I have a job to do. The fact that I have very few posts only means that I rarely have to speak up. If I appear in a forum it means things have gotten bad. <BR><BR>The good moderators working here have been a little overwhelmed. Not to detract anything from the job they've done and continue to do; they are long suffering and patient. My prescense here is just one more tool at the disposal of the administrators. <BR><BR>My name was approved by Jon and Ted specifically. Though you do not know my face, I have been on these boards a very long time. However, I have no friends, no affiliations and can therefore mete out thier will w/o being viewed as prejudiced based on who I hang out w/. I don't hang out w/ anyone. I have little or no care as to who does or does not like me. I work for Jon and Ted and I answer to them. <BR><BR>I do not target specific people out of hate, and I do not operate outside the normal bounds of the moderators. But whereas some are the "kindler gentler" mods, I am not.
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Postby lalatiel » Tue Jun 11, 2002 2:19 pm

Thanks, all. I was reading all that stuff that was termed as a 'one-liner' and I'm like 'uh- oh...'. Thanks for the reassurance!
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Postby erinhue » Wed Jun 12, 2002 5:23 am

Basic Bard Bump
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Postby InnocentEvil » Wed Jun 12, 2002 9:41 am

As I've directed a couple users here, I thought it should be easy to find.
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Postby Mithrandiel » Wed Jun 12, 2002 9:49 am

Thanks for bumping it! I couldn't find it because when I searched it said there wasn't one that matched! Guess I didn't put the space in role play or something.....
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Postby Snowdog » Wed Jun 12, 2002 11:23 am

A note here: If you start a thread, and you want to make changes to your first post, <u>use the edit button</u>! Also, if your thread got locked, <u>use the edit button</u> to make the content better! You can edit when the thread is locked.
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Postby Mithrandiel » Wed Jun 12, 2002 11:59 am

Yeah thanks, I do know how to edit. I just wasn't aware you could edit while the post was locked.
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