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Postby hamlet » Thu Aug 08, 2002 4:58 pm

Naiore, Andren is going to head into Isengard and get himself captured by his "friends" there. He will be brought back to Minas Tirith to stand trial for murder, kidnapping, and impersonation of a soldier of the tower. Not exactly heinous crimes, but enough to get the attention of the king.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> I'm not sure what he's going to do with the child yet, he hasn't told me.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-devil.gif"border=0>
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Postby Ronnan » Thu Aug 08, 2002 5:31 pm

<BR>Sounds good to me guys.<BR><BR>Naboo, you're welcome to join us.<BR><BR>Hamlet, the idea of you and Naiore wreaking havoc together after meeting up at Minas Tirith sounds great...<BR><BR>Actually, I have an idea, if we're gonna forward plan. I don't want to step on the Snowdog legend's toes here, but I had an idea concerning the negotiation that Menecin engages in within Minas Tirith. It will require some posting for Elessar and Arwen and I think Hanasian would work in well here... and I'm happy to either leave that to Snowdog or take on Elessar and Arwen myself.<BR><BR>I'm thinking that in exchange for allowing Naiore to be taken back to Lothlorien for trial and execution, Menecin agrees to allow her to be questioned in Minas Tirith. Given her crimes, Elessar will naturally want information and answers, and it will be added torment for Menecin's mixed loyalties. Now, I wouldn't expect that the questioning would be anything like what is dished out in Barad-Dur, but I would expect a certain subtelty and sophisication that would try Naiore... and perhaps that is something that the rangers want to do themselves, given their greater power from their heritage...<BR><BR>What does everyone think of that?<BR>
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Postby Tobias_Red-tail » Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:11 am

Consider this a question.<BR><BR>How would we know when a day has passed? I was wondering how we would be able to tell, for I am now wondering how many days has passed.
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Postby hamlet » Fri Aug 09, 2002 1:34 pm

Well, according to my watch, only two days have passed. This coming dawn will be the third. The only clock is your own good sense I think.
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Postby Novice » Fri Aug 09, 2002 3:08 pm

Tobias, if you're asking in terms of your time with Nienjah at the palace, she has not yet seen Imrahil, but when she does it would be a short audience and then she intends to pick up Alayna and Khorva again and return to her house.<BR><BR>So, I guess if Alayna stays with her, she would only stay at the palace for a few hours at most. If Alayna decides to take off on her own again, then your time is your own and you don't need to consider Nienjah's timing at all.<BR><BR>Sorry, I'm not as prolific as you in covering action. I'm afraid I'm delaying you somewhat. If you think our timing is out then maybe it would be better for Alayna to take off? Whatever you think<BR>
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Postby Morphobia » Sat Aug 10, 2002 2:20 am

Hmm... Good Question, Tobias.<BR>I have NO idea. Let's just go along at our own pace until we hook up, shall we?<BR>By the way, my next post will be up soon (I hope).<BR>Till then,<BR>Wycoth
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Postby Naiore » Sat Aug 10, 2002 5:31 pm

As I understand it, Naiore, Jason and Menecin are all on the afternoon of the third day.<BR><BR>Naiore started on night one, spent the following day travelling, got captured midday of day 3.<BR><BR>However, there are a number of story lines to this rp, so it stands to reason that there will be characters posted at varying time locations.<BR><BR>To make this easier, find some way to reference when you're posting...<BR><BR>Here's a bad example, by way of demonstration,<BR><BR>"Whilst Naiore was doing her foul deeds of murder, Menecin was settling in for the night at yet another inn of mortal men, ill at ease as ever he was in such places. The days of men were not passing easily for him now that his people were fading..."<BR><BR>Just an idea if the whole time thing is an issue for you. By providing a point of referenece, you can maintain the cohesiveness of the story. Another, obvious suggestion, is to avoid posting large tracts of time passing, like weeks or seasons for that matter. If you want to do that, you need to be prepared for the other characters you are working with to catch up with you. In role play, that could take a very long or very short time. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Ronnan, idea sounds fine for me. Be interested to hear if Snowdog will want to move his character in that way. He may have other plans for Hanasian than interrogating Naiore at Minas Tirith.<BR><BR>We'll need his opinion, Jason's and Hamlet's before we can move that element into the action list... and meanwhile, if anyone else has some feedback on how they think it would work I'd be interested to hear it.<BR><BR>
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Postby Tobias_Red-tail » Sun Aug 11, 2002 3:30 am

If you like, I can help Morphobia to enhance her overall character, by giving her storylines to follow, and possible developments of her character so far. She is a friend also looking forward to improving herself in the art of Roleplaying. Whatever it is, thanks to everyone for giving me various ideas of the time. I could always guess around, anyway.<BR>
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Postby hamlet » Sun Aug 11, 2002 5:15 am

Sorry I haven't been around, things have been hectic in real life. I shall be posting sometime this afternoon hopefully.
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Postby Novice » Sun Aug 11, 2002 5:07 pm

Last time he posted, Snowdog had Hanasian at Dol Amroth on his way to see Imrahil.....which is why I had Imrahil expecting an emissary from Elessar. Don't know what he intends now though.<BR><BR>Nienjah is a little ahead of the Fangorn contingent, as she arrived in Dol Amroth the day after the discovery of the rug merchant's death and has now been in Dol Amroth for two nights...so she's on day 4.<BR>
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Postby Leofric » Sun Aug 11, 2002 5:53 pm

This isn't really relevent to the story as such - but isn't it pretty good going to have travelled from Dol Amroth to Fanghorn in that time? I'm not meaning to nit pick and I don't think it matters all that much but I am genuinely curious. No offense meant Naiore <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Any thoughts Snowdog? Or anyone else for that matter?
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Postby Novice » Sun Aug 11, 2002 7:21 pm

I wonder whether having a map to reference would be helpful in establishing things like travel time?<BR><BR>There's a great map <a target=new href="http://www.members.tripod.com/john.ohara/images/Maps/3dPhysicalME3.jpg"> here </a> with lots of topographical detail and distance scale. <BR><BR>Jason, this might also help you more generally as you're unfamiliar with Middle Earth terrain; could assist you with detail although as you're travelling in company you probably don't need it for direction.<BR> <BR>In the real world, a fit person with a pack going over rough terrain could probably cover about 20 miles a day; I won't estimate how far/fast a driven elf could go! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Horseback over rough terrain could conceivably triple distance over time, though again, there is the mearas factor <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR>
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Postby Tobias_Red-tail » Sun Aug 11, 2002 7:31 pm

It seems by far unlikely that anyone here could get their hands on that kind of steed, for those steeds only allow the descendant of some king or another(I forgot his name) to ride them. Even though Gandalf managed to break the rule, I don't think anyone here can break it.
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Postby elora » Sun Aug 11, 2002 7:33 pm

Indeed, it is excellent time to get from Dol Amroth to Fangorn in such time. But given that Naiore is indeed elven, driven forth based on the hunt and pursuit she believes was behind her, was travelling very lightly and managed to steal a horse, added to the fact that she was well clear of Dol Amroth by dawn of the day she set forth and made Fangorn's borders at midnight suggests to me that it is possible.<BR><BR>I guess I'm working on instinctual interpretation and extrapolation to make that call. Great distances were covered quickly by elves in the Silmarillion. In LotR, the three hunters cross great distances as well, and my read was that Legolas held back on his possible pace for the sake of his human and dwarven companions...<BR><BR>Again, it's just my opinion. I have no basis of calculation (miles per day or some such) upon which that is based, which makes it very much open for contention. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>No offense taken Leofric, and I hope none given in my reply above.<BR><BR><i>Just then a voice whispers to Elora,</i><BR><BR>"Pssst, who are you?"<BR><BR>What do you mean who am I... I trust we're talking about the philosopgy of human indentity and the nature of existence and reality... I'm Elora Star-..... Oooooooh, I understand now...<BR><BR><i>Elora manages a sheepish grin and then departs the thread.</i><BR><BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>
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Postby Leofric » Mon Aug 12, 2002 3:23 am

<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> OK Elora no problem.<BR><BR>It seems to me (according to Novice's lovely map) that the distance from Dol Amroth to Fanghorn is roughly comparable to that from The Shire to Moria. Good going indeed! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> Still it's not really important enough to continue to contradict such a beautiful (and dangerous!) lady as the guardian of Arda so I shall bow to your greater wisdom.<BR><BR>Hope to post later today sorry again for being so slow - Snowdog hasn't left us has he?
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Postby Snowdog » Mon Aug 12, 2002 8:23 am

No, I am still here, and I will try and post something of relevance. I seem to have lost the feel of this RP, if I ever had it. Sorry I havent posted since Hanasían & Elmire reached an Inn in Dol Amroth.<br><br><< <i>In the real world, a fit person with a pack going over rough terrain could probably cover about 20 miles a day</i> >><br><br>Whoa! You must be pretty dang fit to do that! I just got back from hiking the high country and with 50 pounds on the back and the heat of day... 20 miles would be a super feat! Anyway, the whole time/distance bit always gets fudged some in RP, but as long as its not entirily out of proportion it works. Its harder once a character syncs with other characters, then they have to beware of the issue and stay on track.
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Postby Novice » Mon Aug 12, 2002 4:25 pm

Snowdog, you're probably quite right about trekking pace. I tend to think in kilometres rather than miles (Oz having converted to decimal measure when I was a very wee kid) and I have been known to stuff up in the conversion.<BR>
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Postby Naiore » Mon Aug 12, 2002 5:02 pm

<BR>Very gracious of you, Leofric! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>I disagree with Elora all the time. Find it keeps me active and in shape...<BR><BR>Novice, I so know what you mean. Personally, I'm thankful that I only have to account for such things in groups of 10's. Just add or subtract a zero and you're bound to be close in the metric system... and on that basis of demonstration would you like me to build your house??? <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Snowdog... as ever, dear one, you are welcome to come and go as you wish. We're priviledged to have you with us when you can manage it. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Snowdog » Wed Aug 14, 2002 12:28 pm

Well, being that Tolkien's world uses leagues and miles and such... <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Novice » Wed Aug 14, 2002 5:44 pm

Tobias, do you want Alayna to accompany Nienjah back to the manor? She's departing about two hours after the arrival at the palace. <BR><BR>If so, I'd get Kato to search for you in the palace grounds, find you playing dice? Or are you back in the chamber resting?<BR><BR>If you'd prefer for Alayna to take off on her own, just let me know.<BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Naiore » Wed Aug 14, 2002 6:04 pm

So, how many miles in a league?<BR><BR>My diary fails to list that in the conversion charts although it does have a whole page dedicated to international clothing sizes... naturally!<BR><BR>I relieved to report that women's shoe size scales are the same in the US as in OZ and I loose a whole dress size in the US!<BR><BR>Always good to know, even though it will not at all come in handy for me. No more internet shopping now that I'm a budget.<BR><BR>I've set up the beginnings of the scene for Naiore's Minas Tirith visit in my last post, in case anyone was wondering. Hope it wasn't too difficult to follow. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Tobias_Red-tail » Wed Aug 14, 2002 7:30 pm

Novice, no problem. You can always get your men to look for me in the palace grounds, for I am most likely to stay there. I see no reason for Alayna to run off now, and I will post later to ensure that I am in the palace, and not running around the whole area. Where I am, I have no idea though. But whatever it is, I will be waiting for you in the stables.
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Postby JasonChase » Thu Aug 15, 2002 3:22 pm

Aloha gang!!!<BR><BR>Naiore/Menecin- Speaking of time passing, how long shall I sleep before awaking. I don't want to ruin any dialouge you guys may want to have while Jason is preoccupied with sleeping....<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>"That's inconcievable!"<BR><BR>"Why do you keep saying that? I do not think it means what you think it means."
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Postby Naiore » Thu Aug 15, 2002 6:14 pm

G'day Jason<BR><BR>Any meaningful dialogue as far as Naiore is concerned has already concerned. She's a little occupied with revising her plans to avoid Minas Tirith and hence is re-working her strategies for Menecin and Jason so that they don't come to fruition too early... don't you hate just hate it when that happens. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0> ><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Anyway, I'm not sure if Ronnan had plans for pushing the conversation on further or not. He's away until the end of next week now, lounging around at some lush conference somewhere, surrounded by fascinating company... heh heh heh<BR><BR>So, you can wake Jason whenever you'd like, my dear. But no killing Naiore whilst Ronnan is away. He's left his posting for his characters in my care during his absence - the blind fool!<BR><BR>So on TORC I am until the end of next week, Naiore, Menecing, Kert and Dulrain and possibly a balrog and a Guardian...<BR><BR>Added to the notice of absence is my own, starting from tomorrow. I'm out until late Saturday (TORC time) as well. So if I don't reply quickly, please bear this in mind.<BR><BR>Thanks everyone.<BR><BR>Oh, one more thing. Snowdog is off on a field-trip as well... maybe the psych wards are doing a weekend release thing around the world and hence we're all going AWOL.<BR><BR>But I understand that he's trying to formulate a reason for his character to be in this RP. Apart from the fact that we'd all be terribly hurt if he left, that is. And so, I got to thinking and I'd like to offer an idea for him to consider. I hope if anyone else has an idea you'd also put it forward here.<BR><BR>Hanasian has been sent off on word of King Elessar, but why and to do what. Well, in my earlier posts I alluded to the fact that Aragorn, as a ruler, would be privy to the fact that people like Naiore and Tempest still exist and have not yet been brought down. Now, Naiore bears the descendants of Numenor particular malice, and so it's understandable that she would particularly despise Aragorn and his ilk. Added to that, Arwen's connection to Naiore's kindred through Galadriel would mean that he would also know that the elves had yet to deal with Naiore. Aragorn sent a missive to Imrahail to warn him of her possible presence within Gondor, as suggested in my opening posts when Naiore was in Dol Amroth.<BR><BR>Now, what if the White Council fears that Naiore or Tempest or Andren or others of their ilk would rise again? Has Hanasian been sent out to warn other rulers, like Eomer of Rohan and Bard of Dale, to be vigilant and to, if possible, root out dark strongholds with all urgency so that evil cannot again take hold in the southern lands...<BR><BR>Just an idea. It could work so that Rohan, Noldo and Gondor interests band together and form a cohesive campaign in which Nienjah and Tobias becomes caught between as Naiore, Tempest and Andren band together...<BR><BR>It could be a lousy idea... but it's an idea and I think it allows for a sound logic and strategy to be formed based upon it. Aragorn would want to entrust this to someone he counted as a close ally, a kinsman... and it would mean that Hanasian would be faced with a trial of his own abilities as he faced not only the current menace but the difficulties associated with his own past (his father, for example)...<BR><BR>So, please tell me what you think. I hope this helps Snowdog. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>
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Postby Novice » Thu Aug 15, 2002 6:39 pm

I certainly wouldn't want to see Snowdog leave us and I'm aware he hasn't posted in a while because he hasn't found a hook for Hanasian.<BR><BR>In my last post, I made mention of the fact that Imrahil is awaiting an emissary from Elessar--probably to coordinate strategies on how to deal with the morder escapees and to learn of anything new as to the most likely suspects. I would guess there would be frequent status reports going to and fro amongst the leaders of the west.<BR><BR>Tempest also made mention that she did not go south to Harad as many of her fellows did, which creates another plot thread, where perhaps Dol Amroth is the last gateway for many of these escapees--by sea as well as by land. It is the city furthest south over which Elessar has full jurisdiction. Hanasian may be there to assist in coordinating the net across this escape route, as well as in coordinating an allied strategy to put down the last desperate attempts at insurrection by mordorians.<BR>
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Postby Tobias_Red-tail » Thu Aug 15, 2002 7:33 pm

Sorry Novice, but I don't think I will be posting anytime soon. Blame it on the fact I'm schooling and mom won't let me on the computer. To make matters worse, my diskette has gone havoc, so I can't post in school. Will post ASAP though, no doubt about that. Sorry, but no can do.
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Postby Morphobia » Thu Aug 22, 2002 3:45 am

Ehm, guys, I hope no one missed me. But I really need to hook up with someone before I can write my next post. It's because since I'm in Dol Amroth, working, the days would be monotonous. So if someone is willing to pick me up, I will work out my post ASAP. Then I'll be more regular. It's just that I'm in a tight spot right now, sorry for any inconvenience caused!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR>-Wycoth-
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Postby hamlet » Thu Aug 22, 2002 4:52 am

Sorry it's been so long, but it's been busy in life. Ironicly, on Friday, I am leaving for a week's vacation and will have no access to computers whatsoever. I will post before then for both my characters, and in the meantime, have no worries about picking up and using them.
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Postby Novice » Thu Aug 22, 2002 6:06 pm

I'm having trouble remembering all the different character traits/physical attributes of all the characters. Naiore, do you think we could all post VERY BRIEF profiles for inclusion in your very first OOC post, so we could refer back to it and refresh tired memories?<BR><BR>Morphobia, I'm afraid I can't pick you up; I've so little time I'm having trouble keeping up my posts, and I'm already juggling Khorva, Imrahil, Nienjah and trying to mesh with Alayna.<BR><BR>The others in Dol Amroth are Nesséro and Hanasian--maybe you can find your way to them rather than they coming to you? There's action going on around the Palace and the wharves--maybe Alayna in her comings and goings?<BR><BR>Leofric, please let me know if I've given Nesséro any attributes you don't like--and also if you think Nienjah is too clever by half. Actually that goes for anyone who has trouble with her; I'll adjust.<BR>
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Postby Naiore » Thu Aug 22, 2002 6:41 pm

Novice, wonderful idea. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>I'm happy to add brief profiles for characters for each that wish to submit a <u><b>short</u></b> summary.<BR><BR>I'm going to be scarce this coming week, so please understand if they don't get added straight away. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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