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Postby Leslie-ElfWarrior » Tue Aug 06, 2002 8:16 am

Wandering,<BR>Oppps I thought you ment the Arhives when you mentioned bio. (Sorry about that.)<BR><BR>Well I'm only in four RP's right now. One of which you are in. (The Un-nameable Quest) Unfortunately I haven't been able to post in that one since I haven't been able to find it anywhere in this forum. I believe if memory serves currect I'm in another RP called From Imlaris to Mirkwood which you were.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> So theres only two other RPies that I'm in right now Caravan to Khand and one I started Plague of Middle Earth. Both these threads are about three pages long. <BR><BR>As for my writing skills, I didn't think I was that good.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby Wandering_Wood_Elf » Wed Aug 07, 2002 9:14 pm

I have a question for you people <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> Maybe you can help me with it. I have read through this thread before and found it very useful. Something that is beggining to irk me is the female-invicable-adventurer type person who is beautiful, young (except for elves in which of course they have been around since the first age), and somehow has more weapons than you can count and uses them flawlessly. This is an easy rut to fall into because you dont want to create an incompetent character, but it goes overboard. That is why I have been working on my new character Arien. Granted she is 24 and pretty, but she is no warrior, has no healing skills or magic whatsoever, and takes care of horses and the stables near an inn. If the rp i am in leads to a combat how should she react? Should she get her butt kicked being her first true combat? (she was taught the basics by her sweetheart who was a soldier). That is what i think should happen realistically, but how can she keep her dignity with all the other people in the company who probably will end up handling battle much better. I think that is why people create such perfect characters, to keep from being 'upstaged' by a better character. I think the most important thing about your character is to give them flaws as well as skills, this includes both combat and personality and to have them develop as the plot goes on. But hey thats just my opinion. Any helpful comments on m character?
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Postby Leslie-ElfWarrior » Wed Aug 07, 2002 10:44 pm

Wandering_Wood_Elf,<BR>That's a good question for this is made many times. I will admit as far as my character goes I am an elf, beautiful, yet skilled to fight and such, but I try my best to be careful and add flaws whenever possible. My main character Leslie may have the great fighting abilities with swords and bows, but no memory of where the skill originated it is her biggest flaw to only be able to remember as far back as her waking up in an ally in Bree. Beyond that there is no memory. This flaw I try to use to its greatest advantage to hinder her whenever the oppertunity presents itself. It is always good to through in flaws that can hinder a character. <BR><BR>As for your character she's a stable keeper (I guess thats the name), and you say she is not that skilled in fighting. My best suggestion for you is to do like they do in movies at times. The person has little to no knowlege of fighting capiblities, yet struggles when a dangerous situation presents inself.<BR><BR>Example: The movie Willow; the main character Willow was a farmer not a warrior yet he fell into a dangerous situation, and since he was choosen to protect a baby from an evil sorceress. He felt no other choice but to react protectively. Meaning when desperate times came he was handed a sword, and he tried his best to do what he had to. Of course he got his butt kicked, but at some points managed to fight back and be successful in his attempts. This is a similar situation with Samwise, he has sworn to protect Frodo yet is in some cases is not as well to do in fighting. But when it comes down to Frodo he becomes very protective. <BR><BR>I have thought about this type of senario for a long time and have thought long on it. I basically call it the un-likely hero senario. <BR><BR>1) You have a character (who is a farmer, bar maid, stable keeper, ect.)<BR>2) This character has little or no fighting skills.<BR>3) But when in desperate times or situations will do: A)the desperate attempt at servival (Will be forced to fight back or die) B) Has an objective.<BR><BR>(An objective Like in the LOTR or Willow. In the movie LOTR the objective is to destroy the ring of Power. Frodo takes up this objective because it endangers the Shire, eventhough he has little to no experience in battle. Or like in the movie Willow, he too takes up the objective because he cares for the child and doesn't want harm to come to it. So eventhough Willow has little to no experience in battle he will protect the baby in that movie.)<BR><BR>I suggest you give your character either the desperate attempt at servival or the objective. In which case yes your character will get her butt kicked yet will fight back to some degree. But thats only my suggestion. I hope I was of help<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>*~Leslie~*
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Postby Wandering but not lost » Thu Aug 08, 2002 12:12 am

I think it is a rut that annoys me. I mean, I don't mind it in the experienced posters because I think they deserve stronger characters. (If Snowdog decided to play a god I practically would not care, lol. He's one of my buddies here and a favorite poster of mine in threads). The reason I feel this way though is because only can good posters make a powerful character interesting. I think I may know the thread you are talking about but not the poster you mention. In one of my threads, there was one person about to try and play as a immortal time traveler who seems almost god-like. It was that person's second post too. I am not criticising or mocking them. I think it is a common mistake for new posters. Many times because they also fear death. I see no reason to play an immortal character (I don't mean elven, but immortal) because you control if they live or die. Its not like someone else is going to kill them.<BR><BR>My advice to you. If you are a new character, then get your butt kicked and mess up so bad that it jeopardizes the others in the party. Be a problem, make things harder. Use better writing to have your character upstage them. Wandering looks for one of two things in a group, an experienced group or a group that needs protection to the point they are hopeless without him. <BR><BR>Frankly, mess up but write as well as you can. Only new posters think that someone is upstaged by having a better character. It is really the better posters that do the upstaging.<BR><BR>Also, make your character make an effort to learn while you are traveling. After the first battle, in which maybe you get some bad wounds, have your person immediatly start trying to learn from others in your group. Maybe ask someone to help you spar, etc. Use that for "filler posts" inbetween events. However, don't ever really get too good. Maybe just to the point where you can hold a sword well, unless it gets to be a long thread. In fact, one thing you could even do if you want in your first battle, not be able to pick a sword up- since they are heavy. Its up to you.
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Postby Nessamelda » Thu Aug 08, 2002 1:34 am

I agree with what Wandering is saying, from the standpoint of an observer who is trying to gather up the courage to join a role play The absolute heroes who can do everything don't leave much scope for anyone else to help, making it much harder to find a hook to come in on. It's also not very dramatically interesting. The heroes (of the type you describe) also do seem to be very one-dimensionally Nice - all these female mercenaries and assasins who are so keen to fight on the Right Side. I'd like to see a few more ambiguous characters. I'm trying to develop one at the moment, but as she originally came from a very particular plot background (a now abandoned late fourth age fan fic) I'm going to have to modify it a bit to fit in with a RP. She's also neither young nor beautiful, and is rather prone to lying, cheating and selling information to whoever offers her the most. She can't use weapons or magic (but isn't above trying to con gullible young hobbits into parting with their valuable cash in return for charms or herbal potions of dubious potency). She's also very good at running away, which is how she's survived in the wild world so long......!<BR>
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Postby Allura_Starwind » Thu Aug 08, 2002 1:55 am

Oh gosh I so agree. I mean, my character is a really weak mage with only mediocre powers of magic. She is very unskilled. I have not been in a battle yet but I cannot wait to. I really think that it will be fun having everyone protect my character. I'm in the Bree to Gondor thread, btw, if you want to see how my character is. I've read these things for a while and I purposely made my character weak because so few people do. Its more fun I think in the long run probably.
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Postby Wandering_Wood_Elf » Thu Aug 08, 2002 10:05 am

Well one small point id like to make is Im not as new to roleplays as my post count advertises. I went under a different name over at ringbearer and had around 500 posts before it went down. So i came over here to satisfy my Tolkien needs. So I am still somewhat new here but i have experince with many roleplays and do my best to avoid the cliche characters so many people fall into(myself included when i first started). Another thing is my character has had experience with the daggers she carries. Her dead lover taught her how to use them, but it wasnt serious training and she has never had to use them in a life or death situation except once with her Father who was mad at the time. Also she is skilled with a bow but only for hunting game as of now. I think that this may hinder her in a battle a bit because she is not used to shooting at something that may be charging at her and can shoot back. So in her first few battles she may have issues, but i think i will let her progress a little better than one who has had no experience with their weapons of choice before.
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Postby Wandering but not lost » Thu Aug 08, 2002 1:49 pm

Frankly, I am kinda worried by some of the ooc posts in that thread. none of the in character posts worry me though. One thing I need to figure out, where are we on a map? They want ot go to Mirkwood but that may be a HUGE detour that is simply not realistic
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Postby Leslie-ElfWarrior » Tue Aug 27, 2002 9:36 pm

Since this is a very helpful thread, it needs a BUMP, and needs to be noticed! So here it is:<BR><BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><i><u><b>*~*~*~BUMPITY BUMP!!!~*~*~*</i></u></b><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>*~Leslie~*<BR><BR>
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Postby Tavarila » Wed Aug 28, 2002 7:53 am

See, I have an excuse to be very dangerous with a sword. I'm the Battlemaster of the Swan Knights, and I actually know how to use the things, as I will prove in the first tournament come the equinox. Plus my lady has probably no experience with weaponry(in fact I am the only guy in the RP) so I kindof have to be dangerous. I may not be an experienced poster but I know how to use the weaponry and I know how a knight is supposed to act. I'm perfectly in character. Does that work?<BR><BR>Alquohtari oi tirir Romenna<BR>
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Postby ElfMaiden13 » Wed Aug 28, 2002 8:08 am

I haven't been here even over a year, but I write a lot, and the way I develop my characture is this: I go through my name dictionary, and pullout all the neat names that catch my eye. From them, I choose the name for my characture. Then I develop a personality, appearance, and history. I don't usse my characture till I feel that I am as farmiliar with them and what they would do as I am of myself. Here's two of my charactures. They are brother and sister.<BR><BR>Cerasi Kallasilyatinwe / also goes by Cale<BR>Father: Cale Kallasilyatinwe<BR>Mother: Silre Kallasilyatinwe<BR>Age: 13, nearly fourteen<BR>Height: 5”6’<BR>Weight: 105 lb.<BR>Hair: Dirty Blond<BR>Eyes: Deep Blue, streaked with silver.<BR>Race: Elvish<BR>Gender: Female<BR>Mount: Huisuume (Darkwind) a black stallion of elvish breed.<BR>Weapons: Her fathers’ sword. It is an elvish blade, with intricate leaf patters on the blade, and hilt, and sapphires set in the hilt, near the blade. She has an elvish bow, and can use it with great precision. She has a quiver full of red tipped arrows. She also carries five daggers. The first is a throwing dagger, with a single sapphire set in the hilt. She keeps this one in her sleeve. The second has an ivory handle, is covered in ruins, and has rubies set in the hilt. She keeps this one in her pack. The third has a mithril inset on the hilt, and has sapphires, and a diamond in the hilt. She keeps this one strapped to her body, under her shirt. It is by far, her favorite. The fourth is a hunting knife, with no ornament on it. She keeps this one strapped to her ankle, concealed under her pants. The Fifth is a simple throwing dagger, and she keeps it on her belt.<BR>Pets/Companions: A falcon whome she calls Haden. She once saved his life, and in return, he helps her.<BR>Appearance: At a first glance, she appears to be an elvish lad, but if one were to really study her, they would notice that she is a female. Like most elves, she is tall and graceful, and has a sort of mysterious and beautiful aura around her. She wears her hair shorter than most she-elves; more of a boyish lenghth. She wears a deep green cloak, trimmed in green, with a hood. It is fastened with an elvish broach, from Lorien. She wears a boy’s garb, in forest colors. This she has found usefull in her many adventures. On her feat, she wears soft fur boots, tied with leather thongs. She wears a sword on her back, and a dagger in her sleeve, boot, belt, and pack. She often poses as a boy, going by her father’s name. She also has a short white scar on her left cheek, as payment for her life.<BR>Personality: She doesn’t trust easily. She likes children, but doesn’t have much experience with them. She is extremely loyal to those close to her, to the point of death, and considers herself as a protector of those who are too weak or small to protect them selves; especially children.<BR>Bio: She was born to Cale and Silre Kallasilyatinwe (The year varies depending on the RP). She lived with them in Lorien for five years. When her family was attacked by yrch, her father hid her. Her father and mother were killed, and her brother was never seen again. At the time, she was five years of age. After this, she became a rouge elf. She lived in Mirkwood, and was practically raised by the animals. She became expert at stalking, and moving silently. She mastered the art of deception as well. She also mastered swordsmanship, and archery. She took up daggers a few years later. At twelve, she left Mirkwood, and traversed Middle Earth, sometimes joining small companies of elves or halflings, all the time, seeking revenge for her family. She soon found that it was better to pose as an elf lad, so avoiding danger much of the time. She constantly hopes that her brother is still living, and that they will find each other.<BR>Other: she has a small vial of liquid, given to her by an elvish healer, which is said to cure almost any wound. In time. She also carries an Ocarina ( small, pocket sized woodwind instrument), in a leather pouch around her neck.<BR><BR><BR>Cai Nyx Kallasilyatinwe / goes simply by Nyx<BR>Father: Cale Kallasilyatinwe<BR>Mother: Silre Kallasilyatinwe<BR>Age: 15 years<BR>Height: 6” 1’<BR>Weight: 140<BR>Hair: brown<BR>Eyes: grey<BR>Race: elvish<BR>Language: elvish and westerness<BR>Gender: male<BR>Mount: Hassalon, a grey stallion<BR>Weapons: a curved elvish sword, etched with ruins, and the hilt set with a single ruby. He carries to identical daggers, in sheaths on his back, along with his elvish bow, and quiver of white feathered arrows. He can use ‘most anything as a weapon, and is quick, and agile in a fight.<BR>Pets/Companions: a mutt puppy, that he found in Minas Tirith. Many find the sight of the puppy, with its head sticking out of Cai’s pack, to be a very comical sight.<BR>Appearance: He is tall, broad shouldered, graceful, and well built for a boy of his age. He is much like his sister, Cerasi, in the colors he wears. He mostly sticks to dark earthy tones, best suited for stalking, and hunting, not to mention, they last longer. He wears fur boots, and a soft leather tunic. A long, full, grey cloak hangs over his shoulders, fastened with a Gondor clasp. He wears a long sword in a red leather sheath on his side, and a bow and quiver on his back. He keeps a jaguars-claw shaped knife at his side. When he found his puppy, he made a pack with a hole in it, for it to ride in. He wears this on his back. <BR>Personality: He comes off as withdrawn, but loves to have fun. His favorite pastime is hunting and fishing in the forest. He doesn’t trust easily, and when he does, he is loyal to those he trusts; even to the point of death. He wears the scars of his childhood, when he was a slave in the coal mines of the south. It is because of this that he has a great hatred of the underground. <BR>Bio: He was born to Cale and Silre Kallasilyatinwe (The year varies depending on the RP). He lived with them in Lorien for almost seven years. When his family was attacked by yrch, his father hid his sister, and then told him to run for help. When Cai returned, nothing remained of their home, and his sister was gone. He stayed with another elvish family for a while, but felt out of place, and finally became a wanderer. He spent the next eight years wandering middle earth, sometimes joining other parties of elves all the while searching for his sister. Eventually, he ceased to believe she was alive. Little does he know, that his sister is closer than he thinks.<BR>Other: <BR>
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Postby Leslie-ElfWarrior » Thu Sep 05, 2002 9:40 am

Tavarila,<BR>Yes, I suppose that does work. But not to offend, I do hopeyou have a well developed character as far as personality and past bio information goesd.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> <BR><BR>Elfmaiden13,<BR>Great Character's.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Thank you for a very good example on how you develop your characters.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Ok everybody,<BR>This thread is just as important as any other assistance thread in this forum. In an RP (As Wanering has made mention of) having a good character well developed and still developing in the RP is very very very important. Wether anyone believes it or not the characters are what make the RP, for the users behind the well done characters are the ones that post. It does not just take descriptive writing to make an RP great, but very well made characters. So without further adoe: <b><i>*~*~*~BUMP!!!~*~*~*</i></b><BR><BR>I hope someone takes notice of this thread for it is very helpful, and this thread deserves far more credit then it is getting. <BR><BR>*~Leslie~*
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Postby vincent » Thu Sep 05, 2002 10:36 am

I've been reading in the pony for two years now and only very recently started posting seriously, mostly because I can't post at the same quality that others can, (wandering, snowdog, etc...) and I always prefered to read, rather then post. <BR>However thats not to say I have no experence at role playing, i've played role playing games since i was 9 years old, yeah I know a lot of you are at least a little sconful of RPG's, but the truth is, the stories can be every bit as good, as the ones here, if you have a good GM (game master} and at least half decent PC's (player characters). but Anyway, when it comes to writing I suck <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> What promted me to start writing here seriously, has been the tons of crap posted recently I know i can post better then A lot of others here now. And I have given a lot of thought to my character.<BR>One of the tools i've used in normal table top RPG's is the "30 Questions" like i said i'm not the best storyteller, but that doesn't mean I can't try and make my character as realistic as possible, and I used the 30 questions when i started posting here, imo these are things you need to decide about your character, not things you need to post in your bio, I totally agree with wandering <BR><BR>"I do not post my history in ooc threads. What I want them to know, they can find out in my posts. What I want to have hidden, they can read in my other posts in various threads."<BR><BR>A book never put bio's in why do we? But we do need to have at least a mental Bio in our heads. As far as the character archives go I think there fine if you want to make sure everyone knows your characters history on torc, but i would never post my complete bio, suprises are what make stories intresting, if we already know all there is to know about the character there will be no suprises. <BR>But hey this is all my opinion and like I said I suck at writing.<BR><BR><BR>The 30 Questions<BR><BR>1. PC's True Name? And Street Name? <BR>2. PC's present occupation/archetype? <BR>3. Physical description? Race, Sex, Age, Height, Weight,<BR> Hair style/color, Eyes style/color,<BR> and Distinguishing features?<BR>4. Any strong affinities, emotional hangups, mental handicaps, etc?<BR>5. PC's birthplace (any notable details)? <BR>6. Character's origin (both in fact and as the P.C. knows it, if <BR>different)?<BR>7. Any (formal or informal) education or vocational training? <BR>8. Any (legitimate) work experience and reaction to the job(s)? <BR>9. Who is the PC's best friend?<BR>10. Contacts, patrons, or enemies (and reasons)? <BR>11. Any (known) parents: Occupation, status, location, closeness to P.C.<BR>12. PC's strongest and weakest traits?<BR>13. How does the PC see him/herself? <BR>14. How is the PC seen by others?<BR>15. What is the PC's basic nature? <BR>16. Any sense of humor (and what kind)?<BR>17. Ambition(s)?<BR>18. Philosophy of life? <BR>19. Does the PC have any hobbies? <BR>20. What kinds of art, music, and recreation are preferred? <BR>21. Significance of the PC's working clothes (style, insignia, colors, etc)? <BR>22. Any favorite pastimes?<BR>23. What's the P.C.'s home enviroment like (physical living-condition, economic<BR> level, mental status, etc)? <BR>24. What is THE most important fact that should be known about this PC?<BR>25. How would you characterize this PC in one sentence? <BR>26. What unique talents or equipment does this PC have?<BR>27. Why is this PC diffrent from similar char's? <BR>28. Why do you like or hate this PC and why are you willing to play the character? <BR>29. Why will others like or hate this character? <BR>30. Why will this character be memorable?<BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Wandering but not lost » Fri Sep 06, 2002 4:10 am

Great stuff you guys. I really liked the questions Vincent. I think that they have great insight into a characters personality. Like I always say, the better you know the character, the better you can play them. <BR><BR>Also, I liked the descriptions posted, Elfmaiden. I think that it was very well done.
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Postby Wandering but not lost » Fri Sep 06, 2002 4:12 am

Oh dear, I also realized that this thread lost all the votes... oh well...<BR><BR>It was cool though that it had probably more good votes than perhaps any other thread here. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>I am glad though the pony is finally back at least. Does anyone know why it was down in the first place? (sorry to get off topic)
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Postby vincent » Fri Sep 06, 2002 4:44 am

They (the Mods) were cleaning house, just getting rid of the threads that don't get posted in, and threads that violate the new ToS.
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Postby Leslie-ElfWarrior » Fri Sep 06, 2002 10:40 am

Vincent,<BR>RPG's that what my brother, sister, and I used to pway. Of course can't play RPG's much anymore. My sister got married and moved out and my brother is gone for the most part (At work). So I can't really pway them games anymore. Nowadays I come to TORC to pway.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> <BR><BR>Vincent- "As far as the character archives go I think there fine if you want to make sure everyone knows your characters history on torc, but i would never post my complete bio, suprises are what make stories intresting, if we already know all there is to know about the character there will be no suprises."<BR><BR>The Character Arhvies (as I've said before is an assistance thread. Much like a Character Sheet for any RPG game, this way the 'player' knows who your character is and such not the character. For instance I read Snowdog's bio. Well I just met him in the From Imladris thread, meaning whether I read his character bio or not I play it as though I don't know him and hardly know a thing about him or any other character. As for surprises, I've written in detail everything about my characters (Leslie & Declynn) But no matter how much I wright, I still surprise people in RP's. They might know every tiny detail about your character, but if you really want to you can still surprise them.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> <BR><BR>Vincent- "But hey this is all my opinion and like I said I suck at writing."<BR><BR>Don't worry I don't mind opinions, and such.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> As for writing I useually am the one who can't spell for beans. But if it helps... Is there a novel or book you like with a descriptive writer? Opppps stupid question on my part. Jrr Tolkien like many we've read his books, and as far as advice goes I try to write like he does or like Steven King or those people that write those Star Wars Novels. (I can't always do that but I try) Being desriptive is one of the big things I keep in mind. Then comes the question as to what my characters would do in a situation. For instance Declynn would certainly act differently then Leslie in different types of situations. While Leslie would act calmer, Declynn would get hot tempered and be more likely to make mistakes. Also a trait in my writing is writing what my character(s) thinks and feels giving more insight into my character. I do this because it's been done by so many desriptive writers. This is just how I try to do it, and if it helps is there a writing program on your computer? that might help. Not to sound rude or anything. I mean I use a writing program for RP posts, because it helps greatly with my poor ability at spelling.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Wandering,<BR>Yep Last minute spring cleaning. Also the mods wanted to move some threads over to the Green Dragon Inn RP Thread, which was why this thread was locked down for so long.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Postby ElfMaiden13 » Fri Sep 06, 2002 4:00 pm

This is a great thread, and I think I'll add some more.<BR><BR>Another thing I do with my charactures is I keep them updated. I keep a folder of my charactures saved on disk, and as they grow older I will update their age or add some tid-bit from a thread I'm in, to their info/bio. This keeps the characture from constantly being in the same place in his/her life.<BR><BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Leslie-ElfWarrior » Fri Sep 06, 2002 9:08 pm

ElfMaiden13,<BR>Really? COOL!!!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> I do the exact same thing! I keep a copy of my character bio in my computer as well as a type of Journal book! This way I'll have two different forms of bios. In the book I keep more though. I have the describion, Personal Info, bio, Friends/Family, Weapons, List of RP's, skills, facts, Qoutes Of what my characters might or did say, the timeline for my character, and of course a whole lot more. I try to write everything about my character all the way down to the smallest detail. This way it makes the character all the more real. Here I thought I was the only one that did that.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>
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Postby ElfMaiden13 » Sat Sep 07, 2002 5:59 am

I wasn't goining to go that deep, but I also keep a book in which I right down every little detail about my charactures. Like you, I thought I was the only one who did it! My friends think I’m a fanatic, but I don’t just use them in RPs, but is various stories I might write. I just watched Lara Croft, and I think I’ll go create another character from my inspiration.
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Postby Leslie-ElfWarrior » Thu Sep 26, 2002 1:04 pm

<BR>BUMP!!!<BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Leslie-ElfWarrior » Thu Sep 26, 2002 1:04 pm

<BR>BUMP!!!<BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Esgalgondwen » Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:19 am

Well i only just found this thread already im in love with it!!!!<BR>The info in it is great and really helpfull, ive noticed that you guys dont try to pass judgement like alot of other threads ive been in.<BR><BR>I agree with you all that character is the most important thing in a story and i try to keep My character as fresh and real as possible.<BR>I dont try to think of myself as an experianced RPer but i do like to think that my character and my posts are above the standard of the Newbies...( not that im against newbies...)<BR><BR>When i first started on Torc i only joined one guild in Alliances and guilds and just posted in there while building up a background and life for my Fav character Esgalgondwen... it important to have a solid footing when it comes to characters and i pride myself on knowing them inside out.<BR><BR>I have recently created two new characters for some new threads that have immerged,but i stil use my Es account instead of creating there own mainly because my mum would kill me for using so much internet time....<BR><BR>I know a few people who have just jumped into TORC and not fully thought about what they are doing and i think they are the people who can sometimes bring a thread down... not because of there level of writing but because they have no background knowledge or experiance...<BR><BR>Anyway thats just my opinion....<BR>Es<BR>
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Postby Esgalgondwen » Wed Oct 23, 2002 2:03 am

Wandering: I was just wondering were you have that Character page? i was going to go read it. The one you said you alone update and its his quest... i thought it would make good reading and help me with my character building....
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Postby Leslie-ElfWarrior » Wed Oct 23, 2002 1:24 pm

<BR>Es,<BR>Your opinion is welcomed...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Thank you.<BR><BR>I'm sorry but I haven't seen wandering in quite a while, but I did do a search and locate wandering's thread which talk of his character and I'm sure it is one of theses two...<BR><BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=25&threadid=13969">Wandering's Quest. Last Quest posted: 7/28/02 for post 2750!!!!!!</a><BR> <BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=25&threadid=1021">Wandering's 1000 post in the form of a story.</a><BR><BR>Well I hope this helps...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Esgalgondwen » Wed Oct 23, 2002 5:45 pm

Thanks Leslie, I'll take a look at them later, i think they might be very usefull....<BR>I was wondering if you would mind if i post my character bio in Character Archives... i didnt want to ask in the ooc or in character archives in case i made somebody mad for some reason...<BR>( i have had people try and through me out of guilds just for asking questions....)<BR>Es
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Postby Leslie-ElfWarrior » Wed Oct 23, 2002 8:08 pm

<BR>Es,<BR>Of course you can post your bio in the Character Archives...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> It's alright to ask questions people who don't like people asking question are very foolish. But don't worry your welcome to post your bio...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> <BR><BR>Also just to let you know there are rules for the Character Archives....I hope you don't mind my bringing that up, Lately some people have posted Non-Character bio posts (OOC comments) So I've had to jump on them about following the rules and make sure the rules are noticed...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> Well anyway don't worry, go ahead and post your bio and don't be afraid to ask questions in this thread or the OOC to the character Archives...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Esgalgondwen » Wed Oct 23, 2002 8:22 pm

Great! i just wanted to make sure i didnt upset you by suddenly posting....<BR>I really like it here in the character guild the advise is great and i hope that my two cents worth wont be ignored...( like it normally is..)<BR>Es
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Postby Leslie-ElfWarrior » Wed Oct 23, 2002 8:48 pm

<BR>Es,<BR>No problem...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR>(Also don't worry not many people listen to what I've got to say either...But don't worry I like your opinion...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> )<BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Esgalgondwen » Fri Oct 25, 2002 9:40 pm

Wow someone actually likes my opinion!!?? i should say it more often then...<BR><BR>I was hopeing that maybe you could give some advise on how to make my charcter bio better, you know make Es seem more real, i mean she's real to me, she might not be for others...<BR>Anyway can you help?<BR>Es
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