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Postby Tobias_Red-tail » Wed Feb 12, 2003 5:07 am

Draugluin: Biased? You? No... It's just a love for a particular kind of animal...<BR><BR>Anyway, Draugluin has also given me another idea, what with animals choosing their friends. If I read her(?) right, it means that the wolf chose Alayna and vice versa. So now, I have come to a new conclusion to explain the Wolf thingy:<BR><BR>The gift is in her, and it did not show up, or rather, at least not until she happened to 'meet up' with this particular cub, and immediately there is this sense of affiliation between both parties, which results in a bonding of some kind. Say she can reach into other animals, but feels closer to wolves than anything else. I was also thinking of the wolf as a presence in her mind, instead of following her bodily around. Tell me if it would be conspicous for somebody to walk into a town with a wolf on her tail...
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Postby Carnimiriel » Wed Feb 12, 2003 6:11 am

Well, <b>Tobias</b>, since you asked, I think it would be very conspicuous to have a wolf following your character into town. Think of how people in a town would react having a wild animal in their midst. How would the wolf feel? Would a wild wolf willingly follow someone into town, however strong their bond might be?<BR><BR>I'm not saying it couldn't work because I've seen people in the Pony make some pretty improbable things work if they write it well and think of all the details and possible implications, but it sounds difficult!<BR><BR>If you want her to have an animal companion that follows her even when she is in town, perhaps she could have a dog that is part wolf, or a wolf that acts tame enough that people think it is a dog once they've gotten over being startled?<BR><BR>I like the idea of the wolf being a presence in her mind - that sounds much more doable. Or maybe she just has an affinity for wolves because of some experience she had with them? Perhaps a wolf companion comes to her aid when she is in dire circumstances but usually would not be seen by others she was traveling with? I'd love to hear some background on what happened in her past to give her this connection to wolves or a particular wolf.<BR><BR>I'm just throwing out a few ideas - I'm sure there are lots of possibilities and there are no right or wrong answers.<BR><BR><b>Falathiel</b> - I'm glad you're here! How about you post some ideas you have so far for your character? We don't have much of a format in here, just post whatever is on your mind! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR><b>Draugluin</b> - see what I mean about The Silmarillion being confusing! Confuses the heck out of me sometimes. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby nienor-niniel » Wed Feb 12, 2003 3:15 pm

Carnimiriel, thanks for your kind comments. My work on Léonce has been rather slowed down by being sucked up into a certain wedding.... <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> <BR><BR>Leslie, it looks like finally we will RP together - sorry that NN mistrusts elfs. <BR><BR>Falathiel <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>I thought about Lolly Took and the ideas you shared here with us. Do you know Juwel? She is one of the few female hobbit characters I know which is well written and whose presence on the roads of Middle-Earth is pretty well explained. On of my thoughts was too that most of us write characters who go on adventure by choice - one of Tolkien's best characters IMHO is Samwise - totally unprepared - look at the result. What should take a hobbit and most of all a female hobbit out of the Shire? It must be a good motivation - or against her will. If her family traded with Isengard, why could she not have accompanied a delivery and Saruman have kept her in order to know more about those hobbitses Gandalf loves so much. Just an idea like that. <BR><BR>I always thought of Léonce being home in the havens. So there are a few things I wondered about: can elves come back from Valinor? or once they go there, is it impossible. <BR><BR>Finally I thought a lot about the idea of him being Liudares brother to connect my two characters. I imagined that one day, when he is coming back from one of his voyages he hears that his brother has been murdered - and he wants to understand, what has happened, for what reasons his brother had never left Middle-Earthe. I don't think of any idea of revenge - just understanding, gathering knowledge should be a good travelling motivation. <BR><BR>And also about NN: even if she is now a character who stands by her own and is pretty well worked out, there are still things I do not know about her, or did not care for in the beginning. The coherrency and the details grow. <BR>One example: from the start I wanted her to own a flute, a really beautiful flute. Now, she is poor and regarding that she was banned I don't think that Elrond would have given her anything precious. So I imagined she could have won the flute. By usual work it would have taken her years - so I thought of a contest and finally germed the idea of a drinking contest in an inn. To win a drinking contest, she has to hold the road when she's drinking - and why could not she not have sometimes searched for forgetting in a bottle especially in the beginning of her ban? With the flute, beauty and music come back in her life, so she can get along without drinking herself to death. <BR><BR>
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Postby Novice » Wed Feb 12, 2003 7:01 pm

Tobias, I think I agree with Carnimiriel that a wolf tailing a girl everywhere would be somewhat unsettling for those she meets, but that doesn't mean you can't do it...it would make for some complex roleplay writing and that may be to the good.<BR><BR>But more to the point: you must be very clear as to how, why and when this affinity has come to be. You may not want to explain it to everyone you come across, and Alayna herself may not know why but you, as the writer should absolutely be omniscient, know her inside out...otherwise you will begin to contradict yourself in writing her whenever an obstacle presents itself.<BR><BR>Perhaps others do not find it necessary, but I discovered when I first wrote Nienjah that I often came across situations in which I simply did not know how she would react--because I did not know her well enough, couldn't get into her shoes. So, I scrambled and wrote a lengthy, detailed, elaborate biography for her (way longer and more detailed than my post which appeared earlier in this thread, and you know how long that was! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0> tediously long...) which included every twist and turn in her life...all for my own information. Consequently, I now know instinctively how she feels, what she thinks, how she reacts in any situation. It also makes it easier for other writers to get a grip on her...if I am confident writing her, others are confident reacting to her.<BR><BR>So, now I am creating another character--not Primrose Gardner, who still needs some deep thought, but a woman of Umbar named Nadira, called Nectar by those who come to know her. She is intended for a yet-to-be launched RP, and before I write my first Nectar post, I will know every incident of note in her life...her food preferences, her sense of humour, what happened to her when she was four, what gets her angry, what makes her sad.....<BR><BR>That's my advice...get inside the skin of your character before you post. Of course, as a story proceeds new incidents in the life of your character will have their impact on the personality you are writing...that's what happens in life, after all. We are the sum of what happens to us daily. <BR><BR>Perhaps there are others who feel comfortable enough having a brief outline and then making it up as they go along. Tolkien himself did this...Faramir came striding into Ithilien out of the blue, and only later revealed who he was to his creator. But then, Tolkien had the luxury of being able to revise his work...in RP, which is so immediate, we don't have that luxury, because other writers have to respond to our words as soon as they are posted.<BR><BR>
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Postby Novice » Wed Feb 12, 2003 7:02 pm

Tobias, I think I agree with Carnimiriel that a wolf tailing a girl everywhere would be somewhat unsettling for those she meets, but that doesn't mean you can't do it...it would make for some complex roleplay writing and that may be to the good.<BR><BR>But more to the point: you must be very clear as to how, why and when this affinity has come to be. You may not want to explain it to everyone you come across, and Alayna herself may not know why but you, as the writer should absolutely be omniscient, know her inside out...otherwise you will begin to contradict yourself in writing her whenever an obstacle presents itself.<BR><BR>Perhaps others do not find it necessary, but I discovered when I first wrote Nienjah that I often came across situations in which I simply did not know how she would react--because I did not know her well enough, couldn't get into her shoes. So, I scrambled and wrote a lengthy, detailed, elaborate biography for her (way longer and more detailed than my post which appeared earlier in this thread, and you know how long that was! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0> tediously long...) which included every twist and turn in her life...all for my own information. Consequently, I now know instinctively how she feels, what she thinks, how she reacts in any situation. It also makes it easier for other writers to get a grip on her...if I am confident writing her, others are confident reacting to her.<BR><BR>So, now I am creating another character--not Primrose Gardner, who still needs some deep thought, but a woman of Umbar named Nadira, called Nectar by those who come to know her. She is intended for a yet-to-be launched RP, and before I write my first Nectar post, I will know every incident of note in her life...her food preferences, her sense of humour, what happened to her when she was four, what gets her angry, what makes her sad.....<BR><BR>That's my advice...get inside the skin of your character before you post. Of course, as a story proceeds new incidents in the life of your character will have their impact on the personality you are writing...that's what happens in life, after all. We are the sum of what happens to us daily. <BR><BR>Perhaps there are others who feel comfortable enough having a brief outline and then making it up as they go along. Tolkien himself did this...Faramir came striding into Ithilien out of the blue, and only later revealed who he was to his creator. But then, Tolkien had the luxury of being able to revise his work...in RP, which is so immediate, we don't have that luxury, because other writers have to respond to our words as soon as they are posted.<BR><BR>
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Postby Leslie-ElfWarrior » Wed Feb 12, 2003 7:44 pm

<BR>nienor-niniel,<BR>"Leslie, it looks like finally we will RP together - sorry that NN mistrusts elfs"<BR><BR>Yep, we will...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Oooh and don't worry Leslie may be an elf, but Declynn isn't...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Tobias_Red-tail » Thu Feb 13, 2003 3:57 am

Novice & Carnimiriel:<BR><BR>That's some pretty good advice from both of you, and I still don't believe that I am good enough to write wolves tailing girls about, so that will have to wait, however tempting it might be for me. Seeing that I might have some time once I get a particular post done, which will hopefully be done by tonight, I think I shall start on writing out what Novice did, and might solve all future mistakes and coincidences that I am not prepared for. Likes, dislikes, whatever else I can think of, including swordplays and poisons, if I can think of enough things.<BR><BR>And not to forget a lengthy explanation on the reasons for the curious gift. Actually, definitely a lengthy explanation.
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Postby Silwen » Thu Feb 13, 2003 6:33 am

I am glad there is a thread like this! I came to TORC because I wanteed to RP only, but I have ended up staying in the talk forum much longer now. I have started my own RP called The Prophecy - RP which is looking for new members and one to take over another that left (hint, hint). My problem is that the thread is so slow moving -in fact it's not moving at all - and I have no idea where "my people" are right now. They haven't written in months. I'd be happy to have some of you in my RP, I am not quite a beginner any longer, but I am certainly not one of the very experienced players either. Let's make our mistakes together! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> <BR><BR>Now on a general note: <BR>I spent a lot of time fleshing out Hitharien, my character. Her bio is in the Character Archives. It is much easier to know how she'll react to things around her. By now I can say that I have become her after such a long time of working with her. It is easier and much more pleasant writing with people who know their characters well. What you should not do is create someone who can do everything. I came across one of that sort and the problem was that no kind of conflict could arise in the RP because that character immediately solved the problem even before it was detected. Grrrr!
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Postby Wicked_Wytch » Thu Feb 13, 2003 9:01 pm

Hi everybody. Sorry it's taken me so long to respond, i've been a bit busy with school stuff. <BR><BR>Thanks to everyone who's given me some suggestions. <BR>(I think I'll stick to one eye color).<BR><BR>Still not sure where to have her place of origin, but I will take some time and decide soon. <BR><BR>Lady Carni, in responce to your q's:<BR><BR>Shade wanders Middle Earth in search of something/one to tell her about her past. What she's really looking for is her family, but she's not entirely sure if they're alive. She knows that this is probably impossible, but she holds out hope. Plus, she has no where else to go and she's not the type of girl who's good at sticking to one place. <BR><BR>As for the Elves- that's a bit longer and more complicated. It's always hard to explain prejudice (including prejudice in the real world) i guess because it usually doesnt make sense. First, Shade has heard a lot of stories from people she's met (usually from Gondor and Rohan) that do not put Elves in a favorable light. Second, Elves are powerful and Shade fears those who she thinks are much more powerful than her- her fear turns to resentment and anger usually. <BR><BR>Third (lastly), she feels that Elves are to blame for the orcs that came to her village and tortured her. I know this doesn't really make sense, but i thought this would make her more human- when there's no one to blame, people usually pick someone to place everything on. Shade tries to justify her dislike of Elves, but i think she knows deep down that this is wrong. <BR><BR>Does that make sense to anyone but me? <BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> <BR>
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Postby Leslie-ElfWarrior » Thu Feb 13, 2003 9:51 pm

<BR>Wicked_Wytch,<BR>It makes sense to me. For my secondary character is blamed in such a way as well. About ten years after the war of the Ring (Plague of Middle Earth) A plague hit and infected men of any race causeing them to behave to their darkest and most evil desires. Declynn fell victim to a group of these infected men, but evently a cure was found and Sauron's apprentice (The one whom unleashed this plague was killed) But after the plague many people went into denial of a plague ever existing, despite all that happend and the countless lives lost. Instead the people in denial turned to Declynn as the culprit and the one responsible for it all. So she is blamed in such a way as well.<BR><BR>But it made me think about where my characters come from...<BR><BR>Leslie- Is an elf with no memory of family, friends, a home, or a past. She has selective amnesia, and can only remember her first name and her skills everything else is gone. She (In The Elf of Bree story) had to relearn Middle's history and the creatures in Middle Earth. But since she awoke in an ally in Bree and not Rivendell, Lorien, or Mirkwood she doesn't think of herself as an elf, but more of the race of men. She awoke there in Bree around the race of men, so she was kind of born there and raised there as well as far as her memory goes. She desires to be counted among the race of men, she wants to live a mortals life, and has absolutely no intention of sailing to the undying lands.<BR><BR>Declynn- Has had a hard life and still has one. Amongst other rangers she is considered an outcast. Many consider her evil no matter how much she tries to prove she is good. If something bad happens and she around she'll be blamed without a second thought. She tries to be good, and helpful but is always thought to be bad. At times she has a prejudice streak towards any type of man or male person as well as a certain amount of fear. She feels like an outcast by most because she's treated as an outcast so much. She expects at times to get blamed even when she helps. The only ones that know the truth are Leslie (Her best friend and like a sister to her), Drake (Her guardian and the one that raised her to be an ranger), Pomporo (The wizard that found and helped Leslie), Lord Elrond, and Lady Galadriel (Both of whom are trying to heal Declynn still). Other then that she is known as the Black Ranger of Bree a name the means evil and is perminately attatched to Declynn's name.<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Lady_Galadriel786 » Sat Feb 15, 2003 6:32 am

Hello Carnimiriel! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>What a <b>BRILLIANT</b> idea this thread was! *leaps up and down and cheers* <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> I’m glad you started it, because I know I desperately need help with my RP character... I don’t know how many times I have tweaked and chopped and changed her history and personality and appearance and... well it goes on. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0> I have just about given up hope of my character’s history making sense, and settled for a “hmm, could happen” story. *sigh*<BR><BR>I’ll say at the outset that I took some artistic licence and changed a few things in the family trees of certain individuals to make the story a bit more plausible, like saying Celeborn had a younger sister, and Legolas had some brothers (no mention of those things ANYWHERE in the books, I know!). So please, all the purists of Tolkien’s work, don’t kill me (in RL or here in TORC!), and remember that it’s JUST a character. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Thank you!<BR><BR>Well, here is my character as it appears in the Character Archives (yes, I actually posted it there, although I still feel it’s icky story.) <BR><BR><b>Note: Comments in bold within square brackets are mine, made during re-reading this post, to explain my thoughts and ideas behind a few of the things I wrote. </b><BR><BR>---------------------------<BR><i>At the time Elena’s history is written, it is about a hundred years after the passing of King Elessar.</i><BR><BR><b> Real Name </b> - Lady Elena Tinúviel (Nightingale of the stars). <b>[I think I need to come up with another surname for Elena!]</b><BR><BR><b> Known As </b> - Elena (She is sometimes called Alassë.)<BR><BR><b> Race: </b> Eldar (Has both Noldorin and Telerin blood) <b>[or it all Teleri?]</b><BR><BR><b> Gender: </b> Hmm, let me think… most definitely… Female! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR><b> Age: </b> Very old. Born during the Second Age - about 350 years after Eregion was founded.<BR><BR><b> Height: </b> 6’ 2”<BR><BR><b> Weight: </b> Hey! That’s rude! Never, ever ask a woman her weight! She might just kill you! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR><b> Hair: </b> Black/Silver - the black inherited from her father’s side <b>[Errr, did the Elves have black hair?? It is said they had dark hair, so I think black hair was possible, don’t you think?]</b> and silver from her mother’s side. Not curly and not straight, somewhere in between. Reaching her waist, and usually worn loose, or tied back in intricate braids, Elven fashion, a cap of silver lace netted with small gems on her head for formal occasions.<BR><BR><b> Eyes: </b> Blue-grey. <b>[Yes, I know in all the stories Elves had grey eyes, but in the movie they had blue eyes, so I thought I’d incorporate both in my character <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>]</b> They appear to be pools of endless depth, that look right into your heart and see your innermost thoughts, filled with a calm serenity and enchantingly lovely. They are more bluish (like a clear spring sky) when she is in a thoughtful or serious mood; and grey as a stormy seas when her anger is aroused. Her eyes hold a certain sadness, which is more perceptible when she remembers her past or her family. But usually her eyes are full of laughter and merriment, keen as lances in starlight, yet profound, holding the light of knowledge and wisdom, wells of deep memory.<BR><BR><b> Physical Appearance: </b> She resembles her aunt, the Lady, in terms of appearance, although her hair is dark. Tall and slender, with a small waist, shapely hips and long legs that contribute much to her easy gracefulness and elegant bearing (Well, she has a really nice figure!!! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>). She is seemingly fragile and has an air of vulnerability that makes her seem innocent and young, almost defenceless. Yet, this appearance is highly deceptive, as it hides her strength, her power, and almost feline reflexes and agility. There is something arresting and indefinable about her that captures the imagination, holds the attention, and makes all those who see her catch their breath.<BR><BR><b> Marital Status: </b> Single, for a long time now. She was engaged to Arcánon, of the House of Gil-galad. He died fighting in the War of the Alliance at the Battle of Dagorlad.<BR><BR><b> Occupation: </b> Wandering Bard; Healer; Seer; Musician; Dreamweaver; Warrior (when she needs to be)<BR><BR><b> Personality: </b> Elena can seem cold, proud and aloof from others, as she is rather shy and tends to be quiet and get on with things by herself. But in fact, she loves company and is good to be with. Graceful, beautiful, and highly alluring, she can seem compelling, almost hypnotically fascinating, to others. Vivacious and friendly to everyone, she can beguile anyone with her charm. Creative and artistic, she is deep-thinking and wise, and a healer by nature. She is an excellent storyteller and musician, and has a love for and is greatly appreciative of beauty (in all forms), music, stories and poetry. She is a survivor; slow to anger and preferring sensible compromises and solutions to destructive confrontation. But if she has to fight, she has tremendous courage and is a powerful opponent, subtle and deadly, though she seems fragile and vulnerable, which often works to her advantage. She is not easily deceived and therefore has no compassion for anyone who is not honest and sincere. Her anger knows no bounds when faced with deceit and treachery, and her vengeance is swift and merciless. This is the dark side of her nature, usually suppressed and only surfacing when she is pushed to her limits. <b>[I just wanted my character to have a slightly dark side – can’t imagine her simply being all good (or all evil for that matter!) <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0>]</b><BR><BR><b> Outfit: </b> Deep blue cloak and hood, in the colour of a midsummer night sky, set with silver stars about the hem. But, because it is a cloak of Lórien, it can change its colour to suit her surroundings, allowing her to move without being seen. <BR>When travelling, she usually wears a form-fitting, dark blue gypsy top, with a thin band of silver-white embroidery around the neckline, the hem and on the edges of the sleeves, black riding breeches and knee-high black boots <b>[Right, I don’t know how plausible that is, there’s no mention of Elvish women wearing clothes like the Elvish men (breeches and shirts, I mean – without the embroidery! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>), but then again, there aren’t many Elvish women mentioned in the first place!]</b>; or a white dress (reminiscent of Galadriel’s dress in the movie), divided for riding, and belted in silver, and white riding boots. <BR>For formal occasions, Elena usually wears dresses in different hues of blue, green, or purple with touches of grey, white, or gold. Her favourite is a pale bluish-greenish dress, embroidered in white and indigo <i>nephredil</i> blossoms around the hem and down the flowing, bell-shaped sleeves. Each blossom centred on a small pearl, which shimmers and sparkles when she moves.<BR><BR><b> Skills Include: </b> Foretelling; some magic and has an affinity to water and all its forms (because of her Teleri blood, she thinks); she is a Dreamweaver (see History) <b>[The first three skills were written because I wanted my character to have some ‘magic’, albeit ‘Elvish magic’, but I am rather struggling with exactly WHAT magical powers she should actually have. Also I wanted her to have a unique talent not found in the books, hence the fact that she is a Dreamweaver]</b>; horseback riding; illusions; archery; healing; poetry, storytelling, and music (she plays the flute and she has a beautiful voice, though she rarely sings); sword-fighting; needlecraft - especially embroidery; speaking, reading, and writing Elven languages and the Common Speech; and many other skills learnt over the ages, that are well hidden and rarely used.<BR><BR><b> Weapons and Other Items: </b> <i>Elenáre</i>, The Star of Dawn, an elven sword akin to Gandalf’s sword Glamdring, given to her by her brother, Galad <b>[thinking perhaps Galad inherited it from Celeborn, who might have gotten it from Turgon/Thingol – is that possible?]</b><BR>A silver bow of Lórien, and a quiver of silver arrows which never miss, and afterwards always return to her <b>[part of the ‘Elvish magic, perhaps?]</b><BR>Daggers hidden at the sides of her boots <BR>A pale blue crystal, <i>Nólemír</i>, shaped in the form of a teardrop and welded to a fine <i>mithril</i> chain of Elvish make, always around her neck - given to her by the Lady Galadriel <b>[it is from this crystal that Elena’s ‘magic’ powers come, including her affinity to water – something akin to the Elessar, which had healing powers(?)]</b><BR>Keeper of <i>Silmariën</i>, the Moon Ring of Destinies<BR>A beautiful flute, <i>Celebros</i>, her most cherished possession. Worked gold chased with silver, the instrument had earned Elena her supper and bed many times while she was on the road. Made perhaps by Fëanor himself, it was given to Elena by Arcánon as an engagement present.<BR><BR><b> Companions: </b> A black stallion, named Starlight. He is a descendant of the <i>mearas</i>, and very special, since he is the only one of his kind to have a blue mane and tail, flecked in bits of silver. Highly spirited and independent, he can nevertheless be sweet-tempered and gentle when he is around Elena. Sure-footed and swift as the wind, when Starlight moves, all anyone can see is a swift shimmer under the trees, or a light and shadow flowing through the grass. Fiery, stubborn and still rather wild, he is wary of most other creatures and mistrusts humans, although he does tolerate some humans - like the people of Rohan. There is a great friendship between Elena and Starlight, and they are devoted to each other. Starlight holds a very special place in Elena’s heart, more so because of the past they share. <b>[That’s another long story, of exactly how Elena came in possession of a <i>mearas</i> – involves Elena being taken hostage and so on. There is no mention of any other <i>mearas</i> alive at the time of Shadowfax, but it is possible, right?]</b><BR>Another companion is a beautiful Siamese cat, with deep emerald eyes and soft, silky cream and chocolate coloured hair. Elena met Arien, as she calls the cat, near Ithilien during her wanderings, some time after the War of the Ring. Arien had been ill, dying of a poisoned wound received from an Orc arrow, when Elena found her. Elena had stayed a while in Ithilien, and nursed Arien back to health. After that, Arien ‘adopted’ her and they have been together ever since. Arien is regal, elegant, highly intelligent, sleek and graceful. She cannot abide by disorder, squalor or ugliness, and has an almost elvish appreciation for beauty, song and poetry. She and Starlight are good friends, though at times they just tolerate each other.<BR><BR><b> Family: </b><BR><u> Parents: </u>Her father, Círyatan, was a kinsman of Círdan the Shipwright, and her mother, Telperiën, was the younger sister of Lord Celeborn of Lothlórien. They both passed into the Uttermost West with Lady Galadriel and Lord Elrond.<BR><BR><u> Siblings: </u> Older brother, Galadhon, usually called Galad by all. He was a mighty warrior and a great leader. Yet he was also kind and gentle, wise in lore, and a highly skilled craftsman. It was said that in him the spirit of Fëanor lived on, as it had in Celebrimbor. He left one day to visit his cousin Celebrían and her husband, Lord Elrond, in Imladris, but never reached there. The most common theory among the Elves as to what happened to Galad is that he was most probably waylaid by Orcs in the Misty Mountains and killed.<BR>Twin brother, Eärtaron; of all her siblings, he is the one she is closest to, and great friends with. He is like her in both personality and looks, although obviously more male, and Elena loves him dearly. Like her, Eärtaron is a wanderer in his heart, and travelled often around Middle-Earth before the War of the Ring, and most often to the Havens or to Mirkwood. He is a great friend of Legolas Greenleaf and his brothers, and a favourite of Círdan. He meant to leave Middle-Earth together with Lord Elrond, Lady Galadriel, and his parents, but his love for Middle-Earth proved strong, and he decided against leaving in the end. He now lives in <i>Eryn Lasgalen</i> with his wife, Melian, although he still travels often.<BR>Younger sister, Nieninquë; beautiful, independent and with a secretive temperament, she is in many ways still a child. She married Aldarion, an Elf of Mirkwood, sometime before the War of the Ring, They lived in Lothlórien until the passing of Lady Galadriel, and when Lord Celeborn left for Imladris, they also left the Golden Wood, and now live in Ithilien.<BR><BR><b>History: [I think this part needs the most attention and change]</b><BR>Telperiën and Círyatan met when he came to visit Lord Celeborn and Lady Galadriel. They eventually fell deeply in love, and were married, with the blessing of all.<BR>And so a new life began for Telperiën, her time divided between the Havens (where Círyatan lived) and Lórinand. After about 21 years, Galadhon was born. The twins, Elena and Eärtaron, came long almost 690 years after Galad, and they were considered somewhat of a miracle, as between Galad’s birth and theirs, Telperiën was bedevilled with miscarriages <b>[I am assuming that miscarriages can happen to Elves as well as humans]</b>. Nieninquë was born 250 years after the twins, the baby of the family and spoilt by all since birth.<BR>The children grew up surrounded by love and knew only peace and happiness, as their parents tried to shelter them from the darkening world outside. Galad however, being the eldest, and mature beyond his years, knew that trouble was coming. Elena knew too, as she had the gift of foretelling. <BR><BR>From a very early age, Elena had preferred Lórinand to the Grey Havens, although she loved the Sea. She was in awe of Lady Galadriel, and loved to follow her aunt around, trying to learn all that she could from the great lady. It was during one of these visits that the Lady Galadriel discovered Elena’s gift of foretelling. She knew that Elena was destined for great things, although she would find her destiny after many trials and hardships.<BR><BR>As soon as they were old enough (a few years after the <i>Nazgûl</i> first appeared), Elena and Eärtaron were sent to live with Lord Celeborn and Lady Galadriel. Galad remained as he felt he could join his father when the time came to go to battle, as already trouble was stirring in Middle-Earth again, and Nieninquë also stayed as Telperiën would not leave her husband, and Nieninquë was still too young (by elven standards) to be without her mother <b>[Again, an assumption on my part. I am not absolutely sure if this is true]</b>. Elena and her brother were old enough to understand that they were going to Lórinand so that they would be safe, but they were still young enough to feel really excited about being there.<BR><BR>The Lord and Lady received them happily, for they both loved the twins almost as much as their own child. They grew up alongside Celebrían, their cousin, and spent many happy hours laughing together and playing pranks, and learning about Middle-Earth, about the Blessed Realm and the Valar, about the Two Trees, about the battle for the <i>Silmarilli</i>, and about the great Elves and Men of the First Age. They also learnt the arts of healing, and on Elena’s insistence, she learnt the art of battle alongside her brother. Elena showed a particular talent for both healing and battle (especially sword-play and archery). Celebrían was not interested in learning to fight, and spent her time on more ladylike pursuits. Elena learnt ladylike behaviour too - she could dance, and sing, and be elegant and graceful enough to rival the best <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>, but she was rather tomboy by nature, and being really close to her twin brother, she wanted to do whatever he did and learn whatever he learnt.<BR><BR>Elena also had some talents that were not very common among Elves. <BR>For one thing, she has an affinity to water in all its forms and turn it to her own use. For example, she can freeze water and shape it in any way she wants, call up storms and mists, use the water to aid in healing, etc. However, she cannot control this power; it sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t. She therefore tries not to rely on it at all. This skill appeared only later in her life, and for a long time Elena thought that it was because of her Telerin blood that she had this gift. <BR>Another talent Elena has is that she is a Dreamweaver, i.e. she can read people’s dreams and memories and turn them into a living painting - this talent is very rare among Elves, and only 2 or 3 Dreamweavers are born every 7 thousand years. A Dreamweaver’s skills are somewhat akin to the talent of Elf minstrels, but it is not the same. This also ties in with her talent for creating illusions - which was particularly useful to her later during her wandering years, when she had to get herself out of a tricky situation.<BR><BR>One day, when Elena went to visit her family at the Havens, she met Arcánon, who had come there to visit Círdan the Shipwright with a message from Gil-galad, and who later decided to remain and make the Havens his home. She adored him at once and the attraction was mutual. There was one flaw, however. There was an age difference of about 1750 years between them, which, at the time, simply seemed too much for her.<BR>She returned to Lórinand, confused and uncertain. There were plenty of young Elves but none suited her, because in the background there was always Arcánon, with whom she stayed in touch.<BR>Finally, one clear spring day, while out walking with her father, who had come to Lórinand to visit the twins, she said, “Father, I am thinking of moving back to the Havens… and getting married.”<BR>Círyatan stopped walking, looked at her and smiled. “Does Arcánon know of this?”<BR>“Father! You knew!” she said, looking at her feet, and blushing.<BR>“Ever since you left after your last visit. I was wondering when you would come to your senses.”<BR>“The answer is… he does not know.”<BR>“Then I suggest you come back to the Havens with me and tell him.” He resumed his walk.<BR><BR>Elena and Arcánon where soon engaged and on that special day, he gave her a flute (knowing her love for music) worked in gold and chased in silver as a token of his love for her. That day was the happiest Elena had ever known, and yet she had a sense of foreboding. She knew that her happiness would not last, and that something really terrible was about to befall Middle-Earth. And she was right. A year or so after their engagement, news came that Sauron had attacked Gondor. Elena knew that Arcánon and many other Elves, among them her father and brothers, would leave to join the battle and fight for the freedom of the people of Middle-Earth, and she knew the danger that awaited them all. She begged them not to go, to stay and to be safe. <BR>But Arcánon simply smiled at her gently and said, “Beloved Elena, we must go. You know this. Above all else, we cannot allow this evil to consume the world. Think, my love, what this world will become if Sauron the Deceiver succeeds in covering the world with his darkness.”<BR>“But I… what if… you do not return?” cried Elena, overwhelmed with fear.<BR>“Fear not, Lady,” he said, holding her close. “We shall defeat the Enemy, and we shall return triumphant… and I shall return to you. You are my life, and all that I hold dear is here. We have so much to look forward to, and so many years of happiness ahead, so how can I not? I <i>WILL</i> return to you, this I promise. Believe me, and have faith in the power of good.”<BR>With these words, he kissed her, and left.<BR><BR>Elena never saw him again.<BR><BR>It was Galad who brought back the sad news of Arcánon’s passing to Elena. He told of how Arcánon had fought valiantly, but was killed while his company was vainly trying to fend off an unexpectedly fierce attack in the valley of Gorgoroth. Galad had seen him fall, and had tried to go to Arcánon’s aid, but by the time Galad had reached him, Arcánon was beyond help. His last words to Galad were, “Tell Elena… I love her… and I… am… so sorry…” As Galad recounted the events of Arcánon’s death, Elena sat, dry-eyed and silent, gazing blankly into space.<BR><BR>For a long while, Elena wandered around Lórinand in a daze, wrapped in an impenetrable bubble, shutting out the joy of the world outside, and keeping all of her grief and pain in. Of course she was happy and relieved that her father and her brothers were safe, that the Enemy had been overthrown, and that Middle-Earth was safe again, for a while. But why then could she find no peace, no joy? It felt like her life no longer any sort of meaning. She cared no longer for this life, and paid no heed to the beauty that surrounded her. She was wholly engulfed by her despair and grief, and could not escape it. As the months and then years slowly passed, she spoke less and less, withdrawing into herself, taking to walking alone in the cold, lonely hours of the night and standing alone upon Cerin Amroth during the day. No one, not even Eärtaron, who was closer to her than anyone else, could reach her. It was as if she had gone into a world that no one else was allowed to enter.<BR><BR>Then one day, the Lady Galadriel summoned Elena to her. They walked among the great <i>mellyrn</i> trees, not speaking at first. Lady Galadriel watched her niece as they walked side by side, and was greatly saddened to see the light in her eyes so dimmed through the years of grief. She knew the pain that lay in Elena’s heart, and knew too, of Elena’s growing restlessness. <BR>Lady Galadriel smiled at her kindly, and said, “I know your heart still mourns the loss of the love and happiness that you had hoped would be yours, but I say to you, do not grieve overmuch, Elena. In time your heart will heal, if only you will let it. You will not forget, but as the years pass you shall learn to accept, and through your acceptance, grow in wisdom.”<BR>She stopped walking, and turned to face Elena. “Above all, do not see your gift for foretelling as a curse.” She smiled at the surprised look on Elena’s face. “Yes, I know that that is how you see it. Dear child, for a long time I thought so too. But in time I have learnt that you cannot change what must come to pass, not even if you know what is to come.”<BR>“But what good is this.. this “<i>gift</i>”, if you cannot prevail over evil?” cried Elena, the pain clearly visible in her eyes.<BR>“You can prevail by knowing what will come to pass, that is true. But you cannot try to pin down your visions and act upon them. Foretelling can be dangerous a guide to deeds. Know also, Elena, that none of what happened is your fault, yours or anyone else. Some things cannot be prevented even when they are known. Evil has always existed in the world, and sometimes evil overwhelms. Many things that are good are lost. But evil cannot conquer forever. Never, as long as there is hope. And there is always hope.”<BR>Elena stared at her aunt, finally understanding what she was trying to tell her. Suddenly, to her surprise, Elena began to cry. It was as if a dam had finally burst, and all the tears she should have shed long ago now spilled over. She cried until there were no tears left. All the while, Lady Galadriel held her silently, giving Elena the comfort she so needed, but could not ask for.<BR><BR>When Elena’s tears had stopped, she looked at Lady Galadriel and said, “I.. I do not know what to say.. Lady Galadriel, I.. cannot..” <BR>“It is all right. I know what it is that you want to say,” said Lady Galadriel gently, giving Elena a brief hug. “You, Elena, are as dear as my own daughter to me, and it grieves me greatly that you want to leave. But I know, as you do, that you must leave Lórien if you are to find that which you seek, the answers to the questions that lie deep within your heart. Therefore, I give you this.” <BR>She brought out a beautiful pale blue crystal, in the shape of a teardrop, hanging from a fine <i>mithril</i> chain, and fastened it around Elena’s neck. “In this jewel lies great powers; it shall be a great help to you in your journey, and the powers that lie in this jewel shall reveal themselves to you when you have need of them.” <BR>She hugged Elena again, and said softly, “Go now; your parents have been worried about you, as have your brothers and sister. You will need to tell them of your decision.” As Elena turned to go, the light in her eyes rekindled, Lady Galadriel called after her, “Remember, Elena, Laurelindórinan will always be your home, and you may return here whenever you wish.”<BR><BR>And so Elena said farewell to her family, and set out from Lothlórien one cool, clear autumn day. For long years she wandered throughout Middle-Earth, forever helping all those in need, and especially all who were opposed to the ever-present evil on Middle-Earth.<BR><BR>-----------------------------<BR><BR>I wasn’t sure exactly what to call Lothlórien throughout the History (so I just stuck with Lórinand for the most part), because in Unfinished Tales, it’s never really clearly defined as to what Lórien was called in the Second Age.. there was Lórinand, Laurelindórinan, Lindórinand, etc., etc. Also it is said in Unfinished Tales that Galadriel and Celeborn founded Eregion in the Second Age and then later moved to Lórinand, which later became Lórien because of the mallorn trees that Galadriel planted there... I swear, the chapter of the History of Galadriel and Celeborn is one of the most confusing I have ever read!!! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Yeah, anyway, that’s my pathetic character for the moment... I am open to all suggestions and advice and constructive criticisms for my character... I want her to be as believable and Tolkien-based as possible.<BR><BR>Looking forward to hearing from all of you!<BR>LadyG<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Wicked_Wytch » Sat Feb 15, 2003 10:16 am

Leslie- thanks for understanding. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>. I was getting worried that I only make sense to myself and no one else. (That's a sign of insanity ya know <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>)<BR><BR>Carni- Where is Lossarnach? I've been looking over my ME maps and searching for it- without success. <BR>*Grumbles* I'm getting to the point of just closing my eyes and pointing to a spot and where ever my finger lands is where Shade was born. <BR><BR>Lady G- Your character and her history is no where near 'pathetic', as you say. First off, your history is so detailed. WOW! Second, you really have Elena well developed. *Note: I very little Tolkien history, so I can't criticize about Elena's past.* But as a writer, I can say that her character is done very well. <BR><BR>-----<BR><BR>Now onto Shade-<BR>I've been doing some thinking about her history. The following is what I've come up with (Shade doesn't remember most of this). <BR><BR>Shade was born in a small town (name unknown). I'm not sure about the date, though its sometime either during or a little after the 3rd age) Most of the people who lived there had their own task that was assigned to them to help secure the village (blacksmiths, farmers, hunters, etc.). It was a rural place, with few buildings except for homes and a large community building which served as a center and was used for everything from weddings to funerals. <BR><BR>Shade's real name was (<b>wondering if this is a good name</b>) Meiowyn (pronounced May-o-in). [I'm not going to use Shade's real name often (except for this part) because I feel that Meiowyn died the day the orcs came]. She lived in a moderately small house with her mother, father, and two siblings (a girl and boy). Shade was the middle sibling, but not at all overlooked in her family. Her father was a farmer, a good man who did everyhthing for his family. He loved all his children and Mei had a deep respect for him. Mei's mother was a simple woman, very loving with a big heart. She loved to sing and tell tall tales about anything to her kids. Meiowyn and her mother shared an especially close bond and Mei wanted nothign more in life than to be just like her mother. <BR><BR>Mei's siblings- an older brother and younger sister were very similar to her in looks and attitudes. All were young and carefree for the first years of their lives. They played well with the other children in town and lived happy lives. <BR><BR>The Orcs came in the dark of the night when Mei was 17 years old. There was a large group of them and since the people of the village were mainly peaceful, they did not stand a chance. Mei watched in terror as the Orcs took her family and killed her friends. They took Mei too, but they decided to keep her (And some others) for a time- they planned to eat her later on. <BR><BR>They kept her for days, keeping her weak but alive. Shade watched them kill many more people in these days and she was also tortured very badly. After sometime, Shade had given up hope in surviving and lost the will to live. She did not know where her family was or even if they were alive. <BR><BR>Something unexpected happened though, by some incredible stroke of luck, the Orcs did not get along well. Soon, they were fighting one another. Shade lost consciousness sometime during the fight. <BR><BR>She woke up a day later in the same spot. The Orcs were gone, and there was little evidence that they had ever been there except for footprints in the grass and a few dead bodies of her fellow villagers. <BR><BR>Shade didn't remember anything of what happened at the time, she repressed the memories because it was too much for her. She walked for a few days, eating roots and drinking muddy water from puddles to survive. Just when she thought she would die, she made it to a village and collapsed. <BR><BR>----<BR><BR>This is her history part one. Comments anyone? Suggestions? They'd be very helpful to me. <BR><BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Come on. You know you want to comment. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Riencuran » Sat Feb 15, 2003 7:53 pm

Very good Wytch, I like it. Ok so this is just a place to develop your character? You just post your characters history and people respond with their comments?
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Postby Wicked_Wytch » Sat Feb 15, 2003 8:40 pm

Yep, Rien. <BR>You can tell your character's story and get helpful criticism too. <BR>And if you have any questions, you just need to ask and the Head Ladies in Charge will help you out.
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Postby Leslie-ElfWarrior » Sat Feb 15, 2003 8:52 pm

<BR>Wicked_Wytch,<BR>Your welcome...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Riencuran,<BR>Yeah, but this isn't the only thread you can give character information to and expect answers. The Characters Archives is were you place you character Bio and you can ask and be responded to in the Word aside thread for the Character Archives. Also the How to creat a Good Character and more thread is also a great place to ask and receive advice. Both threads are in my signature, the How to create a good character thread also gives helpful ideas and such and I highly recommend it be read by anyone seeking further knowlege on enhancing their skills...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Novice » Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:55 am

Lady_Galadriel786, I found your character is very well thought out and Elena's back-story is intricate and detailed. <BR><BR>I would question only one thing (I don't question your right to tinker with Tolkien, because every RPer does that to one extent or another): Elena seems to have no flaws, no weaknesses. Yes, I know she has had sadness, disappointment, turmoil in her life, but you seem to have transformed them to the positive, making her stronger. But it is the weaknesses, the flaws in a character that make her interesting...and that allow others to interact safely with her. Can she be beaten? Can she fail? Does she have blind spots? When? How? <BR><BR>If others feel she's always going to come out on top, it's a little frustrating and there is no motivation to interact with her. A fatal flaw--at least one--is the key, I feel.
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Postby ballad_deer » Sun Feb 16, 2003 10:15 am

O.k, I'd like to start in rping but I haven't read the books. I was wondering if I should even still try or just wait 'til I have read them....<BR>I've been thinking about a character but of course it seems like a wouldn't even have a chance at history. I've read a bunch of the rp threads and even some of the 101 and 102 classes. I'd love to join in if I could and start small but I was just wondering if I should even attempt to give it a shot.
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Postby Leslie-ElfWarrior » Sun Feb 16, 2003 1:05 pm

<BR>ballad_deer, <BR>My suggestion would be for you read the books, this way you gain more of a history on Middle Earth. I too need to go back and read up I haven't read the books in so long, but is it mandatory that you read the books??? I'm not sure. Also another good thread to read is The Rules and Guidlines for Role playing they are posted at the top of the very first page in this forum, or theres a link in my signature. Also for help in developing your character see this thread or The how to create a good Character thread and more... (also in my signature)<BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Carnimiriel » Sun Feb 16, 2003 1:58 pm

Hi <b>Lady Galadriel</b> - nice to see you over here! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> I personally don't feel any of the 'artistic license' you've taken with Tolkien's work is out of line or extreme - after all, if you want to make your character somehow related to one of Tolkien's elves, you have to invent things like younger sisters, etc. I find this less plausible in cases where Tolkien is very clear with the family tree, like the house of Feanor, etc. <BR><BR>My character Carnimiriel is supposed to be descended from Aegnor, and so a great-great (etc.) niece of Galadriel, but this is at least a minor fudge because though in The Silmarillion, Tolkien never says that Aegnor didn't have a family, in part of HoME (the History of Middle Earth books) there is a story about him possibly being in love with a mortal woman but never acting upon this. In my version he was married to one of the Vanyar who would not leave Valinor with him, so he had to make the terrible choice to either go with his brothers and sister or stay with his wife. As a sort of compromise, he took his only child, a daughter, along, but that is another whole story. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Elena sounds like a great character! I imagine that as far as hair color is concerned, 'dark' can mean very dark brown to black - I don't know that Tolkien got more specific than that. Having a quick temper is certainly not out of character with Elves - it seems that many of the Noldor are rather quick-tempered.<BR><BR>Interesting that her brother is named Galadhon - that is also the name of Carnimiriel and Elbren's nephew! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Like Novice, I think you have a wonderfully fleshed out character, but I too would like to know about some of her flaws. It seems she is skilled with a sword, has a bow that never misses, and a magical crystal. While if you write her well that doesn't necessarily mean that she will be too powerful as a character, it could be tricky to keep her realisitc. What are some things that Elena is bad at?<BR><BR>Lady_Galadriel has 'done her homework' as I would say - taking note of the fact that Mirkwood is renamed <i>Eryn Lasgalen</i> after the destruction of Dol Guldur is one such example. Though I don't think one needs to read all of Unfinished Tales, HoME, etc. in order to participate in RP here, I think at least reading LotR is a must, though I can't speak for what the moderators would say about that (I don't think it is addressed in the rules). <b>ballad_deer</b> - you may want to take a look at the Green Dragon forum which has RP threads that are not set in Middle Earth. Or just read the books - you know you will love them! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Even if you aren't into reading all of HoME, one part I would highly recommend to those who want to write elf characters is the essay on Laws and Customs among the Eldar which appears in <u>Morgoth's Ring</u> (HoME X). Among other things, you learn that elves typically don't marry until after their 50th year (in some cases much much later as with Arwen) and only fall in love once and take this as a serious bond (and no 'fooling around' either - sex pretty much equals marriage for elves). Now, for the purposes of various characters sometimes this may not work, but in planning an Elvish betrothal and wedding in a thread Elbren and I decided to stick as closely to this idea as possible. The essay has some handy things to know even if you consciously choose to consider them outside of the canon for the purposes of your own roleplay. Getting into Celeborn and Galadriel's history can be tricky since there are various versions of their story floating about - when I write things involving Galadriel I stick to the versions from Sil and LotR when Unfinished Tales differs.<BR><BR><b>Wicked Wytch</b> - Lossarnach is barely mentioned in LotR, except to say that people lived there, and about 200 some of them led by their Lord, 'Forlong the Fat' came to aid Minas Tirith in the war. It is an area apparently at the foot of the mountains to the west of Minas Tirith. Some nice work developing Shade! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> I'd love to hear more about her, like her skills, likes/dislikes, etc.<BR><BR>Welcome, <b>Riancuran</b>! We're pretty informal here, if you want to post a character bio (even one barely started), ask questions, discuss aspects of character, whatever is on your mind - this is a place to do it as well as the other threads that <b>Leslie</b> mentions.
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Postby ballad_deer » Sun Feb 16, 2003 6:44 pm

Woa! Just read what Wandering had to say. I suppose I really should read the books first.... I had all of my character's physical characteristics but was lacking in a whole life story. *sigh*<BR><BR>Thank you so much, all. Everyone's been so helpful. One more question though, I read that the Bards left the Lucky Fortune Inn. Is that true and if so why would they leave?
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Postby Riencuran » Mon Feb 17, 2003 5:41 am

I posted my character in the Archives but they don't really comment there and I'm always editing it. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> I've tried to make my character in all ways posible more Tolkien-ish and Middle-Earth like but I'm not sure if I'm succeding. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Wicked_Wytch » Mon Feb 17, 2003 11:47 am

Rien- I'll go check out your character asap. (I've been a bit curious about her).<BR> <BR>Everyone, thanks for the comments on Shade. I'm coming up with more. <BR><BR>---<BR><BR>Part 2 of Shade's story:<BR><BR>Shade woke up in a small town on the southeastern border of Gondor. (This is subject to change). She found herself in the home of an elderly woman who cared for her for a few weeks. <BR><BR>During that time, Shade contemplated staying in the village, the people were pretty nice to her and it was very much like a home to her. But she decided to leave one day, after watching a family go out for a walk. After seeing them, she knew that she had to find her family or at least find out what happened to them (even though she really didn't remember them, she knew something must have happened to them). <BR><BR>Shade left quietly in the middle of the night, stealing a few swords, knives, clothes, and a horse. She didn't know how to use the weapons and was unaccostomed to riding a horse bareback, but she adjusted with time. She learned to eat grasses and drink river water to keep alive and strong.<BR><BR>For years, she traveled north west. She went through Gondor, Rohan, and kept to the edges of the Shire (but never met a hobbit). She met her dog when she was 18- he was injured and starving in the woods and Shade helped him out. Because of her kindness, he follows her still. He was a big help to her because he was a hunting dog- he could catch dinner for her.<BR>She also met many people- some were friends, many more she used to get ahead. Staying in cities, she learned many useful sword techniques and became quite a fighter.Shade also saw orcs, (at their sight, she often would go off the edge and snap- violently attacking and killing them). <BR><BR>Shade reached the Blue Mountains and gave up hope of finding her family. She pretty much turned around (very depressed) and wandered aimlessly for months. <BR><BR>By the time she reaches the Lucky Fortune Inn (current time), she's close to 23 and is a very different person from the innocent child Meiowyn. <BR><BR><i>Personality Traits/Skills/(dis)Likes/Etc</i><BR>Shade dresses simply- a long black cloak covers her brown leggings, forest green top and leather boots. She has very little in her pack, except for a few coins and a knife or two. <BR>One of her swords hangs at her side, another on her belt. <BR>She has a knife in each boot, her belt, hanging on her chest, and another one which she recently gave away. <BR><BR>Over time, she's become very suspicious of people. She trusts no one completely and it usually takes a while for her to like people. She finds hobbits (she calls 'em halflings because she's only heard about them through tales) interesting and innocent. She's more cautious to humans, but still finds kinship in them. Dwarves, she thinks are shady and untrustworthy. <BR>As I've said before, she hates orcs and strongly dislikes Elves. <BR><BR>Shade is a skilled swordswoman through years of practice in battle and training. She is an ok archer, though she doesn't like using the bow and doesn't have one anyway. <BR>She's also a pretty good thief, although she never steals unless she really needs an item.<BR><BR>She's also incredibly rude to strangers. (her favortie question to them is "who the hell are you?" But she's extremely loyal to people she like or consider friends. <BR>She has her own honor system and has her own code of ethics. <BR><BR><BR>Her weaknesses are numerous- from her emotional problems, to the fact that she's just a human woman (meaning she's a lot weaker than many of the dark forces out there).<BR>---<BR><BR>Um...I believe that's all for now. (I have the sinking feeling that I forgot something, but oh well). <BR><BR>So, what do you all think? <BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>~Wicked
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Postby Riencuran » Tue Feb 18, 2003 10:00 am

Ah ha! Rien has found a weakness in Shade! <i>Makes mental note to use the info in LFI.</i> My poor character. I found more things that they have in common...Wicked I updated my post in the Archives. I don't know what page it is on because I view posts at 50 per page so for me it is on the last page, pg 5.
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Postby Wicked_Wytch » Tue Feb 18, 2003 2:42 pm

Oh my goodness, Rien knows all my secrets...NNOOOOOOOOO! <BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>I took a look at your two characters. I like Rien, but i was wondering about her history. There isn't a lot there except for the part w/ her bro. I was wondering if you could maybe put more about her past in. *Shade wants to know all of Rien's secrets <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>.* <BR>But otherwise, I think you did a very good job with Rien's stats.<BR><BR>I really digged your second character (Dai is her name, i believe).<BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif"border=0> <BR>Wow, she and Shade could be sisters. (Wouldn't that be freaky <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>)<BR>Her story was well done. I like. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Altogether- very good work. *Applauds*
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Postby Riencuran » Tue Feb 18, 2003 3:08 pm

You shall never know Rien's secrets! Really she has only one weakness...but you will never know that unless you keep digging. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Yes, Dailen is my new character. i just made her. Oh she has something in common with Shade. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Both detest Elves.
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Postby Lady_Galadriel786 » Wed Feb 19, 2003 12:06 pm

WOW! Thanks everyone for your comments...and for saying Elena is a good character! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> I am so honoured! <BR><BR>Novice, Carni et al.... thanks for pointing out that Elena needs some weaknesses.... errr... any ideas?<BR><BR><BR>Perhaps, I could say the bow and arrows she has are just silver, but normal.. and also, the jewel she has... she doesn't know what powers are in them, so isn't that a 'sort-of' weakness? <BR><BR>Jeez... my character sounds too good to be true... I need to really think of some weaknesses... ARGH!!! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif"border=0> This is hard.... HELP!!!
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Postby Wicked_Wytch » Wed Feb 19, 2003 2:19 pm

Lady G- a suggesting: Emotional weakness. <BR>I have a friend who is writing a story in which her heroine is immortal and pretty much physically unstoppable. But she's extremely weak when it comes to emotions- she has no idea how to handle love, bad memories can trigger her to do violent things, and her anger is incredible. <BR><BR>Another weakness could be to a certain place or object that drains her of power. <BR><BR>Hope these help ya. <BR><BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> <BR><BR>~Wicked
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Postby Riencuran » Wed Feb 19, 2003 3:54 pm

Weakness...emotional weakness is good. Wicked, whos the friend?
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Postby Feanors__Silmarils » Wed Feb 19, 2003 4:50 pm

i've thought of making a character but don't really know how. Can I get some help?
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Postby Riencuran » Wed Feb 19, 2003 6:59 pm

Wicked, in Shade's history you only say her weaknesses are numerous...ack! You don't say what they are! How can I emotionally torment Shade if you don't mention her precise faults?
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