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Postby redrobot » Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:58 pm

the 3 wizards we know, radagast, sauron and saruman all have 'homes' does gandalf?
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Postby Denethor » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:24 pm

Sauron isn't a wizard/Istar - in addition to Radagast and Saruman, you have the two Blue Wizards (Alatar and Pallando) who went East.

And no, Gandalf doesn't have a home. He's a wanderer.
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Postby redrobot » Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:08 am

sauron is the 'dark lord' what doe s that mean exactly if not a wizard?
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Re: gandalf home

Postby Denethor » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:47 am

Wizard means one of the Istari - the Five sent by the Valar to encourage people to fight Sauron. Old-looking guys with staffs and beards.

Sauron uses magic, yes, but by that reasoning the Elves are wizards.
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Postby redrobot » Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:54 am

so what is he?
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Re: gandalf home

Postby wilko185 » Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:07 pm

Sauron is one of the Maiar, an order of divine beings. He is something like a fallen angel. Five of the Maiar were sent to Middle-earth in human form to oppose Sauron, and they became the "Istari". Tolkien uses the word 'wizard' to specifically refer to the five Istari, but to be fair he also did occasionally refer to the magic of both Elves and Sauron as "wizardry". This is all taken from the Silmarillion btw.

Regarding the original query: as Denethor said, Gandalf is a wanderer: "Many are my names in many countries, he said. Mithrandir among the Elves ..." (Mithrandir = "grey wanderer"). Tolkien once specifially referred to Gandalf as "Odinic", given that Odin was often seen as an enigmatic wanderer in a blue cloak.
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