The Even Greater Aussie Guild - Celebrating 10 YEARS!

The varied peoples of Middle-earth at times found unity in their pursuits, and all too often experienced deep rifts. Engage in lively conversations as we banter about the differences between the Alliances, and recruit for our People as well. Remember, keep it friendly.

Postby Eowyns_elvish_sidekick » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:04 pm

Ooh, near the German Sausage Hut?
Gotye is great, even though I don't listen much to that kind of music anymore.
I do enjoy a good music-fuelled nostalgia trip :P
Looking forward to Australia Day actually. Hottest 100 has become a tradition past few years.

Good news Judy. But what's a ATAR? Like an OP here in Queensland?
The extra points thing is a cool idea.

Word is that student union fees are back this year. I remember my first time round in uni when we were protesting throwing them out!

Happy New Year guys, it's going to be an interesting one!

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Postby Arassuil » Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:27 am

HAPPY NEW Year!

I think ATAR is "Australian Tertiary Admission Rank"???

Yes, Triple J Hotest ... yes, voted in that. Will also be revealing the Top 100 Aussie Beers too! Voted in that as well. Should be fun. Thinking of spending the day at Yardbird Ale House as the food is excellent, and it hasn't been overrun by hipsters like the Archive has.

So far 2012 has been pretty good. Not being washed out to sea by incessant rain this year. In fact, until today it was exceptionally dry.

Hope you had a good break Manya!
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Postby JudyA » Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:06 am

Yeh, basically the ATAR is what the unis decide your rank will be for uni attendance.
On the extra points front, in SA the daughter of friends was given extra points because of the school she went to (and it wasn't a private school, either!).
The scaling up and down can make the final figure kind of arbitrary, which is a bit annoying. Thankfully, although my niece's ATAR was a lot lower than the raw marks she achieved in her exams, she has gained a high enough score for the course she wanted, so all is well. :)
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Postby Eowyns_elvish_sidekick » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:19 pm

Well Judy, that's what matters in the end :)

Thanks for that Arassuil - I've voted in the Hottest 100 Beers too now! But I think I need to start writing the beers I drink down cos I couldn't remember all their names...
Sounds like I might be one of those Archive hipsters this year as my friends are planning to go somewhere in West End is seems...

I'm liking 2012 so far too. My research is going well and not running me off my feet (which is good cos this year's uni courses will be hard when they hit).

My wallet is considerably lighter though after two visits to Bookfest...

It's hard to believe this time last year the floods were wrecking havoc, but I'm glad there was no repeat performance.
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Postby JudyA » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:35 am

Eowyns_elvish_sidekick wrote:It's hard to believe this time last year the floods were wrecking havoc, but I'm glad there was no repeat performance.


Amen to that. A but surreal, actually, when you think about it - almost like it never happened. Although Bellingen is doing its best to disappear under floodwaters at the moment...
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Postby Arassuil » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:49 am

So... Nissan will start racing cars in the V8 Supercar circuit in the 2013 season.... :|
I guess it will be good for the sport.
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Postby Arassuil » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:25 am

Had to give a bit of praise across the Tasman for Yeastie Boys Brewing. Their 'Pot-Kettle-Black is some awesome brew!

This weekend it looks like we'll be visiting the Bitter Suite to try out some items off their new Autumn menu!
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Postby Eowyns_elvish_sidekick » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:26 pm

Hello my poor neglected Aussies!
Apparently today is the Sydney Harbour Bridge's 80th birthday.

And what's that sitting under my username? I have THE JEWEL :shock:
Ten years, wow. And so much has happened in that time...

Anyway not much to report since last posting, hence not getting on here til now I suppose. Into my third year of physics. Might be taking up martial arts again.
Hasn't been much beer or revelry.

How's everyone else going?
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Postby Arassuil » Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:08 am

:thumbsup: I bow down to your tenness! I'm only half that! Still, I know what you mean about so much happening... I was bored one weekend in Tamworth when I signed up. Lots happened since then.

Going well here. Enjoyed a visit to the Archive today. They are my fav bottlo sine they are one of the few independents. Don't like paying $$ to the Coles/Woolworths duopoly. I try and shop at the local IGA too.

Enjoy the martial arts & the education Manya!
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Postby elora » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:46 pm

Hmmmm.....sticky beaking about.....

Accepting new members? What must I do to prove my aussie-ness?

Great feats of bogan-dom? Curiously, I am not sure whether I want you to say no or yes to that last question...

Oh, and as for great independent beer - loving Bitter Suite and Yardbird Alehouse. Archive is a fave, but it's becoming a bit too "popular" which can wreak havoc with the ambience of a proper beer nirvana.
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Postby Eowyns_elvish_sidekick » Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:35 am

Gasp! A new member appears!
And you know where we get our beer!

To prove your worthiness you must recite some classic Australian poetry (and the less bogandom the better :P).




...as it happens you don't have be Aussie to hang out here though :)
Nice to meet you elora (you seem familiar - sure you haven't dropped by before in the last ten years?). It would be lovely for you to stick around. We're a slow-moving group, and quite small at the moment, but conversation still flows after a fashion.

Alas I've had to bow out of the beer conversation for a while - I've turned to coffee like a real nightowl. But I'm making the commitment to buying Fair Trade (chocolate too!). Yesterday I was awake for 41 hours straight finishing an assignment. I don't know what got into me. I thought I was getting too old for that!

Hi to Arassuil too. Alas the martial arts hasn't happened yet, but I definitely have to do something or I won't fit into any of my clothes soon! :|

Edit: I forgot to say I agree with what you said about Archive, elora. At least the beer is still nice and varied. Question for both you and Arassuil - does that bottle of Sink the Bismark they have behind the counter mean that they once sold it there??

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Postby elora » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:23 pm

Hmmm...classic Australian poetry. I know some scholars, antipodean, who would consider that an oxymoron. Nonetheless, I shall indulge in one of my favourite Banjo poems. Favourite to me for it reminds me of my childhood on the farm, even though the poem was penned by the man in 1896 for Australiasian Pastoralist Review, September 15 edition.

With the Cattle

The drought is down on field and flock,
The river-bed is dry;
And we must shift the starving stock
Before the cattle die.
We muster up with weary hearts
At breaking of the day,
And turn our heads to foreign parts,
To take the stock away.
And it’s hunt ‘em up and dog ‘em,
And it’s get the whip and flog ‘em,
For it’s weary work is droving when they’re dying every day;
By stock-routes bare and eaten,
On dusty roads and beaten,
With half a chance to save their lives we take the stock away.

We cannot use the whip for shame
On beasts that crawl along;
We have to drop the weak and lame,
And try to save the strong;
The wrath of God is on the track,
The drought fiend holds his sway,
With blows and cries and stockwhip crack
We take the stock away.
As they fall we leave them lying,
With the crows to watch them dying,
Grim sextons of the Overland that fasten on their prey;
By the fiery dust-storm drifting,
And the mocking mirage shifting,
In heat and drought and hopeless pain we take the stock away.

In dull despair the days go by
With never hope of change,
But every stage we draw more nigh
Towards the mountain range;
And some may live to climb the pass,
And reach the great plateau,
And revel in the mountain grass,
By streamlets fed with snow.
As the mountain wind is blowing
It starts the cattle lowing,
And calling to each other down the dusty long array;
And there speaks a grizzled drover:
‘Well, thank God, the worst is over,
The creatures smell the mountain grass that’s twenty miles away.’

They press towards the mountain grass,
They look with eager eyes
Along the rugged stony pass,
That slopes towards the skies;
Their feet may bleed from rocks and stones,
But though the blood-drop starts,
They struggle on with stifled groans,
For hope is in their hearts.
And the cattle that are leading,
Though their feet are worn and bleeding,
Are breaking to a kind of run–pull up, and let them go!
For the mountain wind is blowing,
And the mountain grass is growing,
They settle down by running streams ice-cold with melted snow.

. . . . .

The days are done of heat and drought
Upon the stricken plain;
The wind has shifted right about,
And brought the welcome rain;
The river runs with sullen roar,
All flecked with yellow foam,
And we must take the road once more,
To bring the cattle home.
And it’s ‘Lads! we’ll raise a chorus,
There’s a pleasant trip before us.’
And the horses bound beneath us as we start them down the track;
And the drovers canter, singing,
Through the sweet green grasses springing,
Towards the far-off mountain-land, to bring the cattle back.

Are these the beasts we brought away
That move so lively now?
They scatter off like flying spray
Across the mountain’s brow;
And dashing down the rugged range
We hear the stockwhip crack,
Good faith, it is a welcome change
To bring such cattle back.
And it’s ‘Steady down the lead there!’
And it’s ‘Let ‘em stop and feed there!’
For they’re wild as mountain eagles and their sides are all afoam;
But they’re settling down already,
And they’ll travel nice and steady,
With cheery call and jest and song we fetch the cattle home.

We have to watch them close at night
For fear they’ll make a rush,
And break away in headlong flight
Across the open bush;
And by the camp-fire’s cheery blaze,
With mellow voice and strong,
We hear the lonely watchman raise
The Overlander’s song:
‘Oh! it’s when we’re done with roving,
With the camping and the droving,
It’s homeward down the Bland we’ll go, and never more we’ll roam;’
While the stars shine out above us,
Like the eyes of those who love us–
The eyes of those who watch and wait to greet the cattle home.
The plains are all awave with grass,
The skies are deepest blue;
And leisurely the cattle pass
And feed the long day through;
But when we sight the station gate,
We make the stockwhips crack,
A welcome sound to those who wait
To greet the cattle back:
And through the twilight falling
We hear their voices calling,
As the cattle splash across the ford and churn it into foam;
And the children run to meet us,
And our wives and sweethearts greet us,
Their heroes from the Overland who brought the cattle home.


Always loved Banjo's grasp of life in rural Australia, the commonality of themes over the generations. Adore Henry Lawson for the same reason. Less enamoured of Judith Wright, though she has a masterful turn of phrase, metre and language as evinced by below:

The Drought

That time of drought the embered air
burned to the roots of timber and grass.
The crackling lime-scrub would not bear
and Mooni Creek was sand that year.
The dingo's cry was strange to hear.

I heard the dingoes cry
in the scrub on the Thirty-mile Dry.
I saw the wedgetail take his fill
perching on the seething skull.
I saw the eel wither where he curled
in the last blood-drop of a spent world.

I heard the bone whisper in the hide
of the big red horse that lay where he died.
Prop that horse up, make him stand,
hoofs turned down in the bitter sand
make him stand at the gate of the Thirty-mile Dry.
Turn this way and you will die-
and strange and loud was the dingoes' cry.


Rightio then.... I was quite active until about 2004 here. Since then, I largely vanished into the ether of the world. Odds are that you may have tripped over me or my posts from that era, Eowyns_elvish_sidekick. I think I may have founded the inaugral Aussie guild - The Rugby Guild. Memories are hazy... for it was the hey day of Australian rugby and spirits were high at the time. If I didn't found it, I was a founding member and then it foundered roughly in paralell with the decline of the Wallabies...Perhaps I am their jinx... :P

Sounds like you're up to your ears in study. Oh how I miss those days. I'm now sufficiently old and crinkly enough to amuse myself wondering what I'd turn my hand to next. Astronomy, law and something to do with numbers and finance have all featured...but they're a long way from my previous studies...just pipe dreams.

I love to sneak into the Archive when all the young hipsters are sleeping off their boozy nights. That way, I get a comfy chair, and the food comes out in reasonable time. I suspect that that Sink the Bismark bottle means that they got in stock, and either sold it or it was consumed by one of the staff/owners. Even money, considering the larrikins involved... :wink:

I'm keen to try The Scratch in Milton. I hear they sell an awesome red ale and I am a fool for such things....
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Postby Eowyns_elvish_sidekick » Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:38 am

Ah lovely! I wasn't totally serious that you had to recite poetry, but it always makes a classy addition to the guild :)

Sounds like I must have seen you about the place a few times way back when - it's surprising what you remember.
I think I vaguely remember a Rugby Guild too (though I never visited).

I too am a long way from previous studies with my current physics (I did linguistics/literature before that), but I've always had my fingers in many different pies.

I should ask them about Sink the Bismark - I've been interested in getting a hold of some Tactical Nuclear Penguin but I don't think it's going to happen at the moment!
I think Arassuil was talking about The Scratch a few posts back - it's fairly new is that right?

In other news, I was having a squiz at the original Aussie Guild thread and realised I made the first post on March 19th. So I completely missed our ten year anniversary! Not that there're a great deal of us here to care, but still! I have altered our title in tribute :wink:
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Postby celebalqua » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:00 pm

hi there Aussies

just popped in on one of m flying visits and was amazed to see the Aussie thread active!

Manya love the bling, ten years goes fast. I was rereading the posts at the start of the thread, hard to believe the Howard Shore concert was almost eight years ago!!

The Melbourne symphony orchestra are doing the score to Fellowship with the movie in November, I have my tickets booked, should be wonderful.

g'day Elora and Arassuil nice to make your acquaintance

Love the poems Elora here is one of my favourites..

SAID HANRAHAN by John O'Brien

"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
In accents most forlorn,
Outside the church, ere Mass began,
One frosty Sunday morn.

The congregation stood about,
Coat-collars to the ears,
And talked of stock, and crops, and drought,
As it had done for years.

"It's looking crook," said Daniel Croke;
"Bedad, it's cruke, me lad,
For never since the banks went broke
Has seasons been so bad."

"It's dry, all right," said young O'Neil,
With which astute remark
He squatted down upon his heel
And chewed a piece of bark.

And so around the chorus ran
"It's keepin' dry, no doubt."
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
"Before the year is out."

"The crops are done; ye'll have your work
To save one bag of grain;
From here way out to Back-o'-Bourke
They're singin' out for rain.

"They're singin' out for rain," he said,
"And all the tanks are dry."
The congregation scratched its head,
And gazed around the sky.

"There won't be grass, in any case,
Enough to feed an ass;
There's not a blade on Casey's place
As I came down to Mass."

"If rain don't come this month," said Dan,
And cleared his throat to speak -
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
"If rain don't come this week."

A heavy silence seemed to steal
On all at this remark;
And each man squatted on his heel,
And chewed a piece of bark.

"We want an inch of rain, we do,"
O'Neil observed at last;
But Croke "maintained" we wanted two
To put the danger past.

"If we don't get three inches, man,
Or four to break this drought,
We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
"Before the year is out."

In God's good time down came the rain;
And all the afternoon
On iron roof and window-pane
It drummed a homely tune.

And through the night it pattered still,
And lightsome, gladsome elves
On dripping spout and window-sill
Kept talking to themselves.

It pelted, pelted all day long,
A-singing at its work,
Till every heart took up the song
Way out to Back-o'-Bourke.

And every creek a banker ran,
And dams filled overtop;
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
"If this rain doesn't stop."

And stop it did, in God's good time;
And spring came in to fold
A mantle o'er the hills sublime
Of green and pink and gold.

And days went by on dancing feet,
With harvest-hopes immense,
And laughing eyes beheld the wheat
Nid-nodding o'er the fence.

And, oh, the smiles on every face,
As happy lad and lass
Through grass knee-deep on Casey's place
Went riding down to Mass.

While round the church in clothes genteel
Discoursed the men of mark,
And each man squatted on his heel,
And chewed his piece of bark.

"There'll be bush-fires for sure, me man,
There will, without a doubt;
We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
"Before the year is out."

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Postby Eowyns_elvish_sidekick » Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:54 am

celebalqua!
Now I most definitely remember you.
I remember being very unhappy about not going to the Howard Shore concert - particularly as there was a potential gathering involved. I can't remember now - did you all end up meeting up?

As usual Melbourne has interesting things going on that I would like to be at. Enjoy :)


I notice your sig mentions SETI - I literally just closed the SETI@Home site on my browser. I was reading Pale Blue Dot by Carl Sagan (instead of doing my assignment :roll:) and remembered that I always meant to look into SETI@Home. Alas, I don't think we can spare the bandwidth at present.
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Postby celebalqua » Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:59 am

Manya, yes several of us did meet up:
Lantherien and Ithilias
Midgardsormen
notlistening
tinewen
samaranth

We had dinner at Circular Quay, it was great to meet up fellow TORCers. My Hubby was somewhat concerned about meeting online friends but he has always been sucha worry wart!

We also had the exhibition that year which I also went to Sydney for and the Notlistening organised getting us into see Peter Jackson talking about the films. it was a blast of a day.

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Postby elora » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:41 am

Well met, celebalqua! :)

Active Aussie Guild? Could it be the Easter loooooong weekend indulgences?

Ventured to the Scratch today, on Park Road. Recommend it Eowyn's_Elvish_Sidekick!

Oh, the cheese....the glorious cheese!!! :o
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Postby Eowyns_elvish_sidekick » Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:16 pm

Well elora, I'm a denizen of the internet these days (translation: uni students procrastinate a lot), so I check in quite regularly, but don't always post cos I don't want every second one to be mine.
So if this isn't just a product of the long weekend I'm hoping it can be a bit livelier!

I will round up some people and check out The Scratch next time I allow myself to have a life :D

celebalqua - I wonder where they've all gotten to since!
Yeah I remember being rather wary of disclosing information on here ten years ago, but these days, as you can tell, I'm a little more carefree. Then again living in a big city I'd be pretty hard to pinpoint anyway!

I wish we had enough Aussies to warrant a big Moot like the US members have. Then again that would probably leave me terribly poor...

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Postby celebalqua » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:00 am

Manya I too have fantasied about an Aussie moot, perhaps one day we could make it happen.

I was going to say about the SETI at home project, it doesn't eat a lot of bandwidth, that's one of the great things about the design, after you have the program downloaded, the data is retrieved to your computer in small bundles and then you machine can work on it for four to six days. The time it works on it depends on your processor and how much other stuff you are using your computer for, SETI at home works away on the background mainly when you processor is idle. Once the packages has been done it is resent back to the SETI mainframe to be verified. The data bundles are pretty small in comparison to say a youtube clip of downloading video. You can even set it up so that t only downloads a certain amount per day/week or month.

I love the SETI project. I did a bit of research using the data for my astronomy course. It is very very cool.

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Postby Eowyns_elvish_sidekick » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:00 am

Hmm, I should consider it a bit more then, while my 'unlimited' internet remains. My poor old computer has a hard enough time running Matlab though so SETI may not get much of a look in.

Astronomy eh? I have an astro research project on the go at the moment (and by on the go I mean computer programming :P)

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Postby elora » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:09 pm

Hey - other half found these amazing ANZAC biscuits for sale at IGA. they come in commemorative tins. He bright home one with a scene of Tobruk on it, and he sighted another with. Gallipoli one - just in time for ANZAC Day.

Just thought I'd mention it. :)

Oh, and want to whinge about Mac Mail. Why oh why will my TORC update notifications ONLY go to the junk mail on my desktop mail, not any junk mail on the laptop, iPad or iPhone....and AFTER I added TORC to my address book so it would go to my inbox?


ARGH! :|
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Postby Eowyns_elvish_sidekick » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:23 pm

That sounds cool! I'll have to check them out (once I find where my closest IGA is...). Though I think if I have the time I should make some ANZAC biscuits myself this year. They're not that complicated after all.

I'm wondering if I should try and get to the dawn service this year. Although it's a public holiday so being tired all day doesn't matter for most people, I will still have a lot of work to do :|
Ah who am I kidding, I'll probably end up researching family war history like last year anyway!


I haven't gotten TORC notifications in years. But then again I only post in a few threads so it's no trouble to remember to check them once in a while! Sounds frustrating though.

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Postby celebalqua » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:42 pm

Eowyns_elvish_sidekick wrote: Though I think if I have the time I should make some ANZAC biscuits myself this year. They're not that complicated after all.


Mmm I love ANZACs
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Postby Arassuil » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:41 pm

Oi! Happy April! :thumbsup:

More good beer bars are cropping up arouind Brizzy! Almost too many to count, and definitely too many to hit in a day's pub crawl without getting lost. 'The Burrow' opened in West End, and the 'Underbelly' (I hate that name... reminds me of the TV franchise) opened in the downstairs bar of the Tank Hotel on Queen street. Heard about a couple others too, but can't confirm.

I've seen a few of those ANZAC tins around. Cool tins, but prefer homebakes.

Whats a notification??? :?
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Postby celebalqua » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:37 pm

Whats a notification??? Confused


Hi Arassuil, a notification is when you get an email every time a new post is added to a thread after you contribute. They happen when the 'Notify me when reply is posted' box is checked under the box you type in when you post.

A lot of people have trouble with their spam filters deleting them

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Postby Arassuil » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:56 pm

Ah. Something I'll never use then. Cheers.
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Postby Eowyns_elvish_sidekick » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:59 am

I think you only get the notification when someone uses the reply button on the top right of each post rather than the big one at the bottom of the page... but like I said, it's many years since I've gotten any.

Happy April Arassuil :P
You do have your finger on the pulse it seems. Alas I'm far too busy to check anything out in semester, and too poor out of semester it seems.

Though I did have one beer at Archive last Friday before heading across the street to The Hi Fi :D Daang Archive is packed on a Friday evening!


Still no ANZACs. Monster lab report in progress tonight, followed by mid semester exam tomorrow morning which I've had zero time to study for. Can't wait for Saturday morning sleep in!

~Manya~
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Postby celebalqua » Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:25 am

Good luck with the exam Manya
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Postby elora » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:01 pm

Hmmmmmmm, I have a non leaking oven that keeps a steady temperature now. I'll have to make some Anzacs is year. In previous years, I end up with a tray of charcoal down one end and dough up the other, depending in the heat variations in the oven - very unappealing! :roll:
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Postby Arassuil » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:37 pm

Woolworths has a Kokoda tin of ANZAC biscuits. I want to snag one but the local didn't have any.

Whats the rugby guild with a drinking problem?
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