Whispers of a nameless dread--US 2012 moot

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Postby IrisBrandybuck » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:58 am

Tookish_Traveler wrote:I can pick you up, Iris....



:twisted:
:shock:

I mean...yay!
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Postby Axordil » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:03 am

Actually, the current plan is for people to do a bit of legwork before the city/weekend gets picked. Experience suggests "New York on June 2" won't get people as interested as "This cool little hotel in SOHO on June 2." There's also the problem of picking a city and a date and then discovering there's no suitable place available...confirming with a hotel/inn etc they're available, and interested in having us, has worked well.

It's not quite an RFP, but there are similarities.

ETA: And please! Feel free to research! The more people looking, the better chance of finding someplace really interesting and fun, as we did with the Margarita in Evanston. We weren't even looking in Evanston when we started...but I'm so glad we did before we were finished.
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Postby PatriotBlade » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:06 pm

HOW did I miss this thread?! Okeday, I've found it now, and searched for the FB group but couldn't find it. :(
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Postby Axordil » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:32 am

Private group. It's not a public function per se.

Send me a message on FB. I'm the Jeff Howe with the Glengarry hat and the Ray-bans. I'll invite you aboard.
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Postby PatriotBlade » Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:17 pm

Worked at Snap-on Inc.?
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Postby Axordil » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:12 am

Ah, no, that must be another Jeff Howe with a funny hat and Ray-bans. The notion of there being two is at once reassuring and terrifying. :shock:

I work for IBM.
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Postby IrisBrandybuck » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:25 am

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Postby PatriotBlade » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:34 am

Actually, I didn't see anyone with a hat and raybans, that's why I looked at profiles. Will try again.

I always have the best luck finding people by their e-mail. Mine's patriot_blade@hotmail.com
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Postby Axordil » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:17 am

I _think_ my FB "official" email is axordil@yahoo.com. Try that.

ETA: I believe I have sent you a friend request. At least someone with your email who is a LOTR fan, that is. :)
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Postby PatriotBlade » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:48 am

LOL! You did find me.
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Postby rwhen » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:48 am

I am doing some preliminary checking in Boston for facilities.

How big do you think we MIGHT be based on responses from the survey Ax?

Many locations are based on the size of the group...some are generous in the range...25-100 or so. Others are pretty specific.

About 5-6 year ago a "super moot" started to be planned here and Denver was decided on. We found two really cool retreats with inexpensive rooms, great grounds for meetings, walking distance to very cool things to see and food service if it was wanted.

That is the sort of thing I am TRYING to find in the Boston area, so far no luck. But there are plenty of hostels and other sorts of rooming to be had. Many walking tours of Boston also. (If Boston is picked)

Maybe someone else can check on Philly. And NYC.
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Postby Swordsman_Of_The_Tower » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:37 am

Keep in mind also with Boston, you don't NEED to be in "Boston" to be very close by. The transit system (subway or train) is pretty extensive.

I would be willing to look as well.
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Postby rwhen » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:26 am

Actually I would like to find something around Cambridge. Close to the University. But there are many outlying areas from the City, been there enough to know it pretty well.

We shall see. Lewie, it would be awesome to have your help.
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Postby Axordil » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:55 am

The moots I've been to have been in the 25 person range, plus or minus a few. My experience suggests there's about a dozen hard-core, go almost anywhere types, and from there it's location and timing. But 25 is a dependable minimum.
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Postby Swordsman_Of_The_Tower » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:26 pm

Hmmmmmm. Appears I am not really friends with anyone on FB. Might have to change that for this.

Cambridge would be a great idea, that would be very appropriate. A good substitute for Oxford :D

Salem would be a good option as well IMO. But that's 25 minutes or so away from Boston proper.
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Postby Axordil » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:42 pm

The Evanston moot was in, well, Evanston. Near the El and METRA lines. Getting around wasn't too bad. There were a couple of day trips to downtown Chicago.

The SF moot was up in the Marina district, which is centrally located in some ways, but some distance from either major airport. There was a day trip to Muir Woods that required car pooling, walking trips to the bay and to Fisherman's Wharf, car pooling to the dinner and concert at Teremia's in Berkeley, and car pooling to the bonfire on Ocean Beach.

All of which points up that we're fairly flexible. :) Having a major airport nearby, or available via transit, is a must, but beyond that...
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Postby MithLuin » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:29 pm

I regret that I will be unable to attend a moot of any kind in 2012. I'll be in Ethiopia.
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Postby RoseMorninStar » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:16 pm

MithLuin wrote:I regret that I will be unable to attend a moot of any kind in 2012. I'll be in Ethiopia.
What kind of excuse is that? :P


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Postby IrisBrandybuck » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:41 am

You know, Mith, if you want to avoid us, you could just stay home. ;)

*teasing*

anyhow, when and why?
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Postby Axordil » Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:31 am

Send us postcards from Gondor, er, Gondar. :D
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Postby rwhen » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:55 pm

Mith!! Ethiopia??? :shock: Well you will be missed that is for certain. :hug:


Okay just general information. I spoke to the greater area Boston travel and convention bureau just now. They were very keen on what we are planning and a nice lady named Julia (go figure :P ) is going to email me links to ideas for where we can stay - hopefully that also has some dining options on site and close to Boston restaurants and places we would like to see.

I explained to Julia what just happened in Oxford and that something similar or quirky would be welcomed to consider.

Axordil. I used to live in San Francisco and I am surprised that you folks didn't utilize the cable cars or BART for much of your transportation getting about the city. Still I wish I could have come to that Moot!!

I will report back after I get a mail from her.

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Postby Axordil » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:49 pm

I think most of us used BART to get into the City from one of the airports. If I were doing it again I would use the trolley lines more...though I'd still rent the MINI convertible. I mean, hello, driving across the GG with the top down? Bucket list. :D
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Postby Frelga » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:51 pm

In San Francisco, helpful locals did much of driving and, e.g., ferrying folks from BART to Teremia's. Only a few visitors other than Ax rented cars.
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Postby Axordil » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:21 pm

Frelga is correct. The bulk of the car pool cars were locals.
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Postby Swordsman_Of_The_Tower » Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:34 pm

How much are we looking to spend a night/person? That would help me search greatly.

Oh and food, the best Italian place is Al Dente! http://www.aldenteboston.com/
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Postby Axordil » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:13 pm

That's where this gets tricky. Some of us are in decent financial positions, others are going to be pressed to come at all. Ideally we won't exclude people by cost.

This has been handled at previous moots in three ways:

1) Staying at private residences. This obviously is both the cheapest and the hardest to arrange. Not everyone who lives in an area is going to have room to spare in the first place, to start out with. Generally if this happens it's by private arrangement.

2) Hostel-type lodging. We did this in Chicago/Evanston, where there were two-single-bed rooms that used the dorm-style shared bathroom. The place also had standard rooms and even suites...that range made them very, very attractive. For the price ranges--look up the Margarita Inn in Evanston.

3) 4 or more to the room. We did this with the Cow Hollow in SF, I believe.

The idea is to keep it as cheap as possible for those who need to pinch pennies--$50 per person per night, say--while not ending up in a dive.
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Postby PatriotBlade » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:27 pm

Definitely, I'll be one of those that's hard pressed to make it, though the fact that it's on the east coast and i live in WV is a great help.
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Postby Axordil » Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:01 am

I should re-emphasize: again, in an ideal world, we're not expecting EVERYONE to stay in bunk beds, six to a room. That would also lose us people.

It's about offering the options people need or want to make it possible and desirable for them to show.
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Postby elf-maiden » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:51 am

I just tried to like Ax's post. :roll:


I still have no clue what my availability will be, but even if it doesn't work out for me to go I'm excited just for the pictures. :D
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Postby Swordsman_Of_The_Tower » Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:00 am

Well there are lots of hotels in Boston. Most are on the higher end price wise, but that doesn't mean they are the only ones.

The Buckminster is in a good location
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