The Greta Effect

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The Greta Effect

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Re: The Greta Effect

Postby rwhen » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:27 am

Out of the mouths of babes.....

Greta is a child miracle worker...or has the potential to be if only people would listen. Her ideas are harsh for most to deal with, but we are in an emergency situation. "We" at our age may not have to think of the total effect of global climate change...but our kids and grand kids will.

I really dig this little gal how has the guts to stand up to folks who are going to laugh behind her back or openly tolerate her. We need more like her!!!
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Re: The Greta Effect

Postby basil » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:46 pm

rwhen wrote:I really dig this little gal how has the guts to stand up to folks who are going to laugh behind her back or openly tolerate her. We need more like her!!!


I have hopes that the social movement created by the Parkland survivors will develop along a path leading to some lasting good results. I believe CC is well on its way. November next year may give a look into our near future WRT gun issues and CC.

In the world of our Fungal Friends, change is afoot!

>>The thermal restriction zone that protects mammals is the difference between their high basal temperatures and the environmental temperatures. Human-induced climate change is anticipated to warm Earth by several degrees in the 21st century, which will reduce the magnitude of the gradient between ambient temperatures and mammalian basal temperatures (12). Consequently, there is concern that higher ambient temperatures will lead to the selection of fungal lineages to become more thermally tolerant, such that they can breach the mammalian thermal restriction zone. In this regard, experiments with an entomopathogenic fungus have shown that these can be rapidly adapted to growth at higher temperatures by thermal selection (13), establishing a precedent for an animal-pathogenic fungus adapting to mammalian basal temperatures. Most worrisome, analysis of thermal tolerances for fungal isolates deposited in a culture collection showed a trend of basidiomycetes for an increased capacity to replicate at higher temperatures, an observation consistent with an early adaptation to higher ambient temperatures beginning in the late 20th century<<


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Re: The Greta Effect

Postby RoseMorninStar » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:20 pm

It's a shame big oil and money over-rule common sense. Even if someone didn't 'believe' in science and global warming they should realize that wind and solar power is better for us, the environment, all the critters, and our planet.
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Re: The Greta Effect

Postby basil » Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:40 pm

Some may think Greta is a pushy nosy busybody.
There are others

>>The new report is especially significant given the Trump administration’s climate science denial. Commissioned by General Mark Milley, now the highest ranking military officer in the United States, the report not only concludes that climate change is real, but that it is on track to create an unprecedented catastrophe that could lead to the total collapse of US society without serious investments in new technology and infrastructure. However, while focusing on projected climate impacts, the report does not discuss the causes of climate change in human fossil fuel emissions.

The report was written by an interdisciplinary team active across several US government agencies, including the White House’s Office of American Innovation, the Secretary of Defense’s Protecting Critical Technology Task Force, NASA’s Harvest Consortium, the US Air Force Headquarters’ Directorate of Weather, the US Army’s National Guard, and the US State Department.<<


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Re: The Greta Effect

Postby basil » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:39 pm

More VICE.

Committed by a Kiwi with something new, which is good to know, Boomers


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Re: The Greta Effect

Postby basil » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:31 am

More Gretas

>>Because of her, hundreds of thousands of teenage “Gretas,” from Lebanon to Liberia, have skipped school to lead their peers in climate strikes around the world.<<

https://time.com/person-of-the-year-201 ... -thunberg/




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Re: The Greta Effect

Postby Storyteller » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:59 am

basil wrote:More Gretas

>>Because of her, hundreds of thousands of teenage “Gretas,” from Lebanon to Liberia, have skipped school to lead their peers in climate strikes around the world.<<

https://time.com/person-of-the-year-201 ... -thunberg/




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Few things are more motivating for a teenager than a good excuse to skip school.
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Re: The Greta Effect

Postby basil » Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:41 am

Considering what our kids know they are facing in their futures, viz. changes in Earth's environment that may or may not be beneficial to continued human life, missing a bit of school would seem to be the least of their troubles. I liken what Greta has started to the movement begun by the Parkland kids in response to the shooting at their school.
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Re: The Greta Effect

Postby basil » Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:39 pm

Calling Old Mother Hubbard!

Who needs a clean, healthy World Environment anyway?


For days, I have watched as the bushland around us went up like a tinderbox. I just waited for the next day when my clinic would be flooded with evacuated dogs, cats, goats and horses in desperate need of water and food.
The impact of the drought on wildlife is devastating to watch, too. Members of the public are bringing us koalas, sugar gliders, possums, galahs, cockatoos and kangaroos on a daily basis.

The koalas affect me the most. To see these gorgeous, iconic animals dying from thirst is too hard to bear. We save some, but we lose just as many.



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Re: The Greta Effect

Postby Witchwench » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:52 pm

I'm going to have to admit, I find Greta a bit annoying and grating in her message delivery. So her "affect" on me is rather flat. But kudos are given anyway, at least she is engaged in the world around her.


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Re: The Greta Effect

Postby basil » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:07 pm

Greta has Asperger's.

Other's have diseased ethics

>>And it’s far from the only Murdoch-fueled claim making the rounds. His standard-bearing national newspaper, The Australian, has also repeatedly argued that this year’s fires are no worse than those of the past — not true, scientists say, noting that 12 million acres have burned so far, with 2019 alone scorching more of New South Wales than the previous 15 years combined.

And on Wednesday, Mr. Murdoch’s News Corp, the largest media company in Australia, was found to be part of another wave of misinformation. An independent study found online bots and trolls exaggerating the role of arson in the fires, at the same time that an article in The Australian making similar assertions became the most popular offering on the newspaper’s website.

It’s all part of what critics see as a relentless effort led by the powerful media outlet to do what it has also done in the United States and Britain — shift blame to the left, protect conservative leaders and divert attention from climate change<<


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Re: The Greta Effect

Postby Witchwench » Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:19 pm

Ahhh that makes much more sense now about Greta..had I followed her, I'd probably know this..well it still stands, good for her for being engaged!

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Re: The Greta Effect

Postby Storyteller » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:43 am

basil wrote:Considering what our kids know they are facing in their futures, viz. changes in Earth's environment that may or may not be beneficial to continued human life, missing a bit of school would seem to be the least of their troubles. I liken what Greta has started to the movement begun by the Parkland kids in response to the shooting at their school.

"Our kids" know what they are being told. It's not like the mouths of babes speak unimpeachable truth founded on said babes' experience and knowledge. It's the adults who tell them that the world is ending. Greta is not a prophet speaking revelations, she is an amplifier of others' ideas. And a good excuse to skip school works wonders to boost participation numbers in rallies, which are more fun than studying and don't invole grading.

(To clarify, this is a comment on the messenger not on the message).

If anything, the real "Greta effect" - and the "Ok boomer" effect - is the sympthom of the ongoing social power transfer from adults to adolescents. Not the healthiest of trends.
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Re: The Greta Effect

Postby basil » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:24 am

Storyteller wrote:It's the adults who tell them that the world is ending.


So true.

>>Investors are increasingly reckoning with these questions and recognizing that climate risk is investment risk. Indeed, climate change is almost invariably the top issue that clients around the world raise with BlackRock. From Europe to Australia, South America to China, Florida to Oregon, investors are asking how they should modify their portfolios. They are seeking to understand both the physical risks associated with climate change as well as the ways that climate policy will impact prices, costs, and demand across the entire economy.
These questions are driving a profound reassessment of risk and asset values. And because capital markets pull future risk forward, we will see changes in capital allocation more quickly than we see changes to the climate itself. In the near future—and sooner than most anticipate—there will be a significant reallocation of capital.<<

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Re: The Greta Effect

Postby basil » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:51 pm

Ah, Death Knell. KNEEL b4 Death!!!

And a pleasant sound, yes?

https://www.juancole.com/2020/02/cramer ... ctric.html

>>CNBC stock picker Jim Cramer startled his conservative fan base this week by refusing to push ExxonMobil and other petroleum stocks. He solemnly informed his audience that he is “done” with fossil fuel securities. He pointed out that pension funds all over the world are divesting from them because of pressure from a younger generation of investors who do not believe you can ever make a fossil fuel company sustainable. (This is true, you cannot. Their business model is to have us burn the fossil fuels, which releases billions of tons of heat-trapping carbon dioxide, which is wrecking the planet.)

We are, he said, “in the death knell phase.” <<




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