Portia1 wrote:(Mods: is anyone trying to correct my status. I feel like my own ghost around here?)
portia wrote:I do not think it is too early to have comments on these.
Is there any other issue involved in the Clinton emails besides he fact that some people choose not to believe her?
Portia1 wrote:Well, Story, you have a point. It is an odd--to say the least--point of view for her to take. But I suspect that they are barking up a tree that has no squirrel in it.
I suspect that if there were something inappropriate in the emails, she would have been more careful to follow the rules about them. At least that is how most people would behave.
Arvegil from 'Will California deny, etc.' thread wrote:
One thing that the GOP is very good at, is finding issues that they can't- or won't- do anything about, and whinge about them as a way of bringing out the religious right vote.
However, and while I consider 2016 the GOP's race to lose, the GOP's "religious right problem" is just going to get worse. The crazier the religious right gets ("teach the controversy," anti-vaccine, definitely on the wrong side of the center's opinion on SSM and marijuana legalization, re-criminalizing abortion), the less electable anyone kissing religious right tail becomes. On the other hand, in the short run, the GOP believes, with some justification, that it is DOA without the religious right votes. Hence, the conundrum.
Because of the way things are shaping up, the GOP may be able to avoid dealing with this problem in 2016, but I don't see them managing to go much further with this baggage.
Clinton aides' BlackBerry phones likely destroyed
Washington (CNN)The State Department acknowledged that top Hillary Clinton aides Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin had government-issued BlackBerry phones during their tenure at the department, but said those devices could not be located, in a court filing Wednesday.
Responding to a request by the conservative group Judicial Watch, which is suing the State Department for information related to Abedin's employment situation, government attorneys said the department "did not locate any such devices that may contain records responsive to plaintiff's FOIA requests," which includes a request for the department to "identify any and all servers, accounts, hard drives or other devices currently in the possession or control of the State Department or otherwise that may contain responsive information."
In its filing Wednesday, attorneys representing the State Department submitted a statement by executive secretary Joseph E. Macmanus, in which he states that his team "does not believe that any personal computing device was issued by the department to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and has not located any such devise at the department."
BlackBerry phones were issued to Abedin and Mills, he said, but those devises would have been cleared through a factory reset once they were returned to the department.
"Because the devices issued to Ms. Mills and Ms. Abedin would have been outdated models," he said, "in accordance with standard operating procedures those devices would have been destroyed or excessed."
And while the State Department is not able to locate those two phones, spokesman John Kirby insisted on Wednesday that they were turned in.
"Obviously they were turned in, and according to protocol they would have been reset and re-issued," said Kirby, later adding, "Where they are now, I couldn't begin to tell you."
Judicial Watch, however, is not satisfied by this latest update.
"The questions just keep popping up," the group's president, Tom Fitton, said in a statement. "Every time the State Department tries to justify its stonewalling, one more bit of information arises."
"If the State Department was not providing secure email devices to Mrs. Clinton, who was?" he asks. "Best Buy? Target? Mrs. Clinton clearly did whatever she wanted, without regard to national security or federal records keeping laws."
There will be a hearing in the Judicial Watch case on Thursday afternoon, during which these issues may be raised.
And the State Department does appear to be expanding its review into the Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act request to include the state.gov email accounts of two former officials besides Abedin and Mills, after "potentially responsive emails" from those officials were found in Abedin's inbox.
Those officials were not named in the court filing, but are described as an Administrative Officer in the Office of the Executive Secretariat and a Senior Advisor in the Office of the Undersecretary for Management's White House Liaison Office.
portia wrote:As I pointed out: just more speculation.
I am still waiting for something other than "___Is investigating." or "___suspects. . . "
So far, a tempest in an invisible teacup. The irony is that she did it to herself.
Minardil wrote:I think the email server scandal certainly says something about Hillary's judgement and arrogance, but I can't see anything "criminal" about it.
As someone who intends to vote Democrat this year, my only "concern" about Trump is that Republican primary voters might suddenly start demonstrating a level of wisdom they've been lacking lately, and pick someone OTHER than Trump to be their nominee in the general election.
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest