Compare/contrast Eru (LOTR) and God(Christianity)

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Compare/contrast Eru (LOTR) and God(Christianity)

Postby Billobob » Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:41 pm

List at least one way Eru and God are similar and one way Eru and God are different. Keep it nice don't criticize any religions. Don't compare/contrast Religions, don't compare/contrast LOTR and Christianity just Eru and God.
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Re: Compare/contrast Eru (LOTR) and God(Christianity)

Postby Jnyusa » Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:33 pm

Similar: both are fictitious characters
Different: invented at very different times
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Re: Compare/contrast Eru (LOTR) and God(Christianity)

Postby Billobob » Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:01 am

Well I meant in their personality/actions but that works to I guess :roll:.
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Re: Compare/contrast Eru (LOTR) and God(Christianity)

Postby Jnyusa » Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:38 am

Well ... I have no opinion about the personality of god.

I think Tolkien was rather careful not to endow Eru with attributes that would put him in conflict or competition with the Catholic teachings about a god.
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Re: Compare/contrast Eru (LOTR) and God(Christianity)

Postby Billobob » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:48 am

I'm not trying to say Eru and God are the same, what I'm trying to say is that we can find different aspects of them that are similar. As for the contrasting part maybe the personality is not extrodinarily different but the actions in some ways are. Discussing about these differences would be interesting :) .
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Re: Compare/contrast Eru (LOTR) and God(Christianity)

Postby Minardil » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:23 am

Tolkien was clear in his writings that he intended Eru to be interpreted as one of the "infinite potential varieties" of God, that is not exactly the same vision of God presented in the Christian Bible, but as another view of the same divine Creator. So they're the same being (in JRRT's mind) just viewed through two different cultural experiences - ie that of the Elves and Men of Middle Earth vs that of our own time.
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Re: Compare/contrast Eru (LOTR) and God(Christianity)

Postby Billobob » Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:45 am

Thank you for the clarification about Eru being the same in character but viewed through different cultures. Now let's discuss some of the similarities and differences between God and Eru's actions.
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Re: Compare/contrast Eru (LOTR) and God(Christianity)

Postby Minardil » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:00 pm

It's your topic, why don't you start? I personally don't see enough of Eru in Tolkien's writings to make any sort of comparison. He appears in the Ainulindale (by necessity), but doesn't really show up much after that.
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Re: Compare/contrast Eru (LOTR) and God(Christianity)

Postby Billobob » Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:14 pm

Well you do have a point. Here are some differences between Eru and God: God is infinitely more powerful than any of his creations while Eru created the Ainur from different aspects of his mind, God often punishes the Isralites while Eru takes a more passive approach, and Eru created beings to help him create Arda God created Earth on his own. Well I hope that gives someone something to go off of.
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