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Postby Jnyusa » Fri Jan 31, 2003 10:21 am

Aha. So I just select the words from the other person's post, hit copy, paste them into the little italic bar thingie, and it won't destroy the other person's post? OK. Let's try it ...<BR><BR>No, there's something wrong here. I tried to copy the last sentence of your above post, but I can only get my screen to show the first page of the thread while I'm typing a reply. There's no option to go to other pages. I guess I can copy the words before I hit the reply button, but then I can only respond to one person at a time, and I've seen posts that respond to multiple entries.<BR><BR>Also, there's no bar at the bottom of my reply box, only at the top, and nothing there indicates an Edit.<BR><BR>Oh, dear. I know this feel like work, Ax, but this Adoption Thread is just such great <u>practice</u> for you!!! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby Axordil » Fri Jan 31, 2003 11:25 am

The edit option is on the thread listing, not the reply screen.<BR><BR>The multiple-source-quoting posters in question are doing something that I never bother to, because I'm lazy <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> : put their replies together in a text editor or word processor and pasting them into the reply screen as a done deal. You can do all sorts of things that way.
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Postby MariaHobbit » Fri Jan 31, 2003 12:12 pm

<BR><i>I usually say something like "edited for spelling" or "edited for content."</i><BR><BR>Why? I've seen that done by quite a few people and wondered about it. Just curious. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Axordil » Fri Jan 31, 2003 1:48 pm

So that there is no misunderstanding about what the purpose of the edit was. If I go back and change something I said after the fact, I want to be sure that everyone knows I did it. Conversely, if someone sees the edit notice produced by the system, and I DIDN'T change anything I said, but only corrected a misspelled word, or a smiley code, I want them to know that too.<BR><BR>The editor is a powerful tool for rewriting history, in a way. You can go back to the beginning of a discussion and change what you said in a way that makes you look good at the expense of others. So I annotate my use of it out of a sense of fair play.
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Postby Axordil » Fri Jan 31, 2003 1:49 pm

The editor is also a powerful tool for fixing multiple posts.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif"border=0>
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Postby MariaHobbit » Fri Jan 31, 2003 3:47 pm

<i>.....makes you look good at the expense of others.</i><BR><BR>That didn't occur to me! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif"border=0> The only time I've come close to that is when someone upset me so bad I went back and edited out everything I had said that pertained to what that person said about me. Sort of deleted my interaction with that person. <BR><BR>Should I have explained myself? <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> "Edit: Deleted all relevant interaction between myself and the person who badmouthed me, so that she would look stupid." <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Or would that violate TOS?<BR><BR>
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Postby Axordil » Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:49 pm

You can always replace your invective with "Edited to remove things I regret saying," thus leaving no doubt as to the tenor of what you pulled while getting rid of bits you're blushing at in retrospect. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby MariaHobbit » Sat Feb 01, 2003 6:31 am

<BR>But I didn't regret saying it. I was just horrified that someone would attack my statement that rescuing kittens from dogs was an honorable thing to do, so I deleted those portions of my posts that pertained to that, rather than try to argue with such a dispicable person.<BR><BR>OK, I was new to the Philosophy forum at the time. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif"border=0> I should have rebutted instead.<BR><BR>
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Postby Axordil » Sat Feb 01, 2003 12:48 pm

That's different. I would have just ripped them a new one too. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> Nevermind.
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Postby Jnyusa » Sat Feb 01, 2003 4:33 pm

They attacked you for rescuing kittens?!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif"border=0> Fie on them! Fie!<BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif"border=0>
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Postby MariaHobbit » Sun Feb 02, 2003 7:35 am

<BR>Well, you know, some people will try to twist <i>anything</i> you say to try to discredit the point you were trying to make. But that was just too shocking to me, and so I "left".<BR><BR>
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Postby Jnyusa » Sun Feb 02, 2003 5:46 pm

MariaHobbit -- I did have one experience here where I guessed I was being deliberately misconstrued, but the person was doing it with a sense of humor, so I figured it was in fun and didn't worry about it. But I've lurked in some threads that were really deadly, so I know it can happen. Fortunately, the nice people are in the majority. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Ax - You said you had a theory about fast training and slow training with swords, but you haven't come back to the thread to give your theory <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-crying.gif"border=0> I really wanted to hear it! Really.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Would you tell me about it here, if you don't want to drag that thread up to the top again? <BR><BR>Jn
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Postby Axordil » Sun Feb 02, 2003 6:42 pm

Nah, I'll be good and go there. I just hadn't been on in a day. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif"border=0>
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Postby Jnyusa » Mon Feb 03, 2003 9:17 pm

Axordil - thank you <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Was I tapping my foot impatiently? If so, I'm sorry <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif"border=0><BR><BR>A day feels like a week in virtual reality. I watched the thread sinking into the quagmire and I thought perhaps you had forgotten it. Please be flattered and not annoyed <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> Jn
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Postby Axordil » Mon Feb 03, 2003 9:51 pm

The Talk forum churns a lot. So do Alliances and the Roleplaying forums, last I saw. Film is next fastest to change, and then everything else trails behind. Philosophy has actually picked up a tad in the last month for some reason.
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Postby Sharpefan » Tue Feb 04, 2003 3:09 pm

Hello-<BR><BR>I posted a question in the films forum, and Kestrel suggested I come by Adoptions. I'm liking everyone here - you all seem very helpful. Could I get adopted too?<BR><BR>I don't have any questions at the moment, but would be much more comfortable knowing the option is there should one arise.<BR><BR>Sharpefan<BR><BR><BR>Note: I don't have the opportunity to use our computer everyday - unfortunately life tends to interfere. I apologise in advance for any delays in replying. Thank you.
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Postby Axordil » Tue Feb 04, 2003 3:14 pm

Sure, we all SEEM helpful...bwahahahHAHAH! Sorry, I was channeling my evil twin there. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Feel free to hang out, ask questions, and generally make yourself at home. And I'm the only one who should ever feel bad about my responses being slow here! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby Sharpefan » Tue Feb 04, 2003 3:28 pm

Thanks Axordil. I feel much better now.<BR><BR>Thank you for the welcome and thank you for the laugh! I think I like your evil twin too.<BR><BR>Shrpefan
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Postby Sharpefan » Tue Feb 04, 2003 3:35 pm

Oh, wait -<BR><BR>I <i>do</i> have a question. What does it mean when it says that my alliance is 'Servant to Luthien'? Who is Luthien?<BR><BR>Sharpefan
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Postby Axordil » Tue Feb 04, 2003 3:41 pm

Luthien is a character from Tolkien's "Silmarillion," but she is mentioned in both the book and movie (special edition) versions of "Lord of the Rings." She was an elf who fell in love with a mortal, Beren, thousands of years before the events in LOTR. Their descendants include Elrond (and thus Arwen) and also the line of the Kings of Gondor, including Aragorn.<BR>
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Postby Jnyusa » Tue Feb 04, 2003 4:51 pm

Hello, Sharpefan! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Don't address any questions to me because I don't know anything. But the other people in this thread know A LOT!<BR><BR>And what?! ... you mean you haven't figured out yet how to escape Real Life whenever you want to? <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0> That will be fixed in short order <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Jn
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Postby Star-of-Hope » Tue Feb 04, 2003 5:38 pm

so arwen and aragorn are related...???<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR>VERYYYYYYYYYY interesting!!!! I knew there was something strange about them <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0>
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Postby Axordil » Wed Feb 05, 2003 9:34 am

There's a reason that JRRT said the crown of Gondor looked Egyptian--they liked keeping it in the family too. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>
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Postby Jnyusa » Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:32 am

Numenor is the ancient Elvish name for Appalachia. They came from the west? Over the water? Am I right?<BR><BR>You guys better keep up with your Elvish reading assignments. There's going to be a test, you know! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-devil.gif"border=0><BR><BR>(Ooops, there's sure to be someone from Appalachia who will be insulted by this. So I have to add that my family parked in Appalachia (well, western KY) when they came to the U.S. I'm just poking fun at my own self.) <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> Jn<BR><BR>(edited for content)
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Postby MariaHobbit » Wed Feb 05, 2003 3:35 pm

<BR>I don't get it. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif"border=0><BR><BR>
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Postby Axordil » Thu Feb 06, 2003 9:50 am

Several of the ancient Egyptian royal dynasties had a habit of marrying off brothers and sisters to prevent outsiders from getting any leverage on the Pharoah.
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Postby Jnyusa » Thu Feb 06, 2003 10:21 am

In Appalachia it tended to be cousins who were a bit too closely related, because of the isolation probably.<BR><BR>Hey, I heard on the news that the Hatfields and McCoys are feuding again! Some McCoys are buried on a property that now belongs to the Hatfields, and the Hatfields won't let them visit the graves. This time, tho, they're fighting it out in the courts. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby MariaHobbit » Thu Feb 06, 2003 12:03 pm

<BR>I knew about the pharoahs. My oldest daughter got on an Egyptian gods kick and did up a whole geneology type tree them. Lots of limbs that didn't branch. Shocked her classmates when she brought the chart to class. <BR><BR>OK... I understand the Appalacian reference now. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> I grew up in the Ozark "mountains" and knew several people who were probably .... ummmm.... products of inbreeding. You know the type: Mean and nasty and with the kind of face where they can look through a keyhole with both eyes at the same time!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>
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Postby Sharpefan » Thu Feb 06, 2003 6:02 pm

Hello - <BR><BR>I will have to plead stupid here, I understand the Egypt reference but the Appalachia one has me stumped. I think I need a history lesson here.<BR><BR>Sharpefan
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Postby Jnyusa » Thu Feb 06, 2003 9:41 pm

Where did Star go? She's the one who created this monster <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Sorry for our very local jokes, Sharpefan. On the eastern side of the U.S. there is a mountain range called the Appalachian mountains. The people who live there are rather isolated. There are a lot of jokes in the U.S. about people in the Appalacians marrying their cousins, which is not a very healthy thing to do. MariaHobbit was talking about another mountain range in the southern U.S., the Ozark mountains, where people have also been known to marry too closely. <BR><BR>This whole topic came up because Star of Hope made a joke about the fact that Aragorn and Arwen were related to each other.<BR><BR>Everybody, I'm going to stop talking about this now. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Jn<BR>
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