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Postby Nimloth-in-Iber » Mon Oct 14, 2002 11:12 am

Hello, all of you:<BR><BR> Ethel, I´m pleased to know that your toe goes better. In a few days you will be running!<BR> <BR> Sarah, if you are going to travel by Spain alone I think it will be all right...like everywhere there would be inappropiate places and hours for a woman by herself, but that´s common sense. If you have been in Italy before, maybe you are not going to find too much differences in customs and ambient in general. In the last years I have spent some vacations in Italy and I always feel at home.<BR><BR> Cheers,<BR>Nimloth
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Postby Vanalossen » Tue Oct 22, 2002 9:27 pm

Hi. I've just been reading through this thread, and I like it. Can I be adopted by you? Please???
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Postby Ethel » Tue Oct 22, 2002 10:42 pm

Hi Vanalossen!<BR><BR>Welcome to TORC, and yes, I'd be very happy to adopt you. Most of my "adoptees" appeared to have "graduated" onto the other boards, in fact. (But perhaps they will stop by to welcome you as well.)<BR><BR>If you've read the thread, you already know a little about me. Would you mind sharing a little information about yourself? For instance:<BR><BR>- A few key facts about yourself... student? worker? parent? (etc)<BR>- When did you first read Tolkien?<BR>- Have you read any of the supplementary works (Sil, Unfinished Tales)?<BR>- What do you think of Peter Jackson's movie?<BR>- Does your screen name have a special meaning?<BR>- Which message boards here are of particular interest to you? (or have you gotten that far yet?)<BR>- Do you have any pets? (extra points if any have Tolkien names!)<BR><BR>I found myself at TORC when I realized I was way too obsessed with LOTR to keep boring my friends, and was delighted to find new friends here who share my obsession. I hope you will enjoy it as much as I have!<BR><BR>Look forward to hearing from you...<BR>Ethel<BR>
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Postby sarahwoodruff » Wed Oct 23, 2002 10:24 am

Welcome Vanalossen!<BR><BR>Ethel is the best! You will love TORC, and I am eager to learn more about you.<BR><BR><BR>
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Postby Saroneuroe » Wed Oct 23, 2002 10:40 am

<i>Ethel is the best! </i> Without question!! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Welcome to the family Vanalossen! I hope we can help you feel at home here. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Saro<BR><BR>edited to add- I see my new sig pic is up! Here I am with my knight in shining armor.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR>
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Postby goodoldBoromir » Thu Oct 24, 2002 10:20 am

Hello Aunt Ethel,<BR>I have been on Torc for some time now,but I still feel new. What can I do to help make my posts funner for everybody who reads them, how do I make them not sound stupid and also I have problems with some people put stuff on my posts that the subject isn't even about like{Underware!} Why do they do that to my posts? HELP!!!!!!! Tired of it.
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Postby goodoldBoromir » Thu Oct 24, 2002 10:22 am

Hello Aunt Ethel,<BR>I have been on Torc for some time now,but I still feel new. What can I do to help make my posts funner for everybody who reads them, how do I make them not sound stupid and also I have problems with some people put stuff on my posts that the subject isn't even about like{Underware!} Why do they do that to my posts? HELP!!!!!!! Tired of it.
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Postby Ethel » Thu Oct 24, 2002 3:46 pm

<i>Ethel wanders about, looking into all the dark corners of the thread for Nimloth and Vanalossen... </i><BR><BR>Are you still out there? Please give a shout and we'll send a search party! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Just wondering,<BR>Ethel<BR><BR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR><BR>goodoldBoromir,<BR><BR>Hello and welcome! Of course I will adopt you if you wish. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> I have seen some of your posts in the Movies forum, and have also seen you receive some fairly unkind replies. I think sometimes your posts, and some of the threads you have started, have not quite caught the "tone" of that forum. (As you know, it can be very harsh over there! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif"border=0> ) I am not certain I can help you, but I am certainly willing to try.<BR><BR>Have you read the first post in this thread? If you have not, I would request that you do so. It would also be helpful if you could share some information about yourself - nothing identifying (especially if you are under 18) - just general background stuff like: are you are a student? how did you get interested in Tolkien? what you think of Peter Jackson's movie? how did you find TORC and what interests you here?<BR><BR>Also, I think it might be worthwhile to have an email conversation. If you agree, I can be reached at: <a href="mailto:jan_lewis@attbi.com">jan_lewis@attbi.com</a> <BR><BR>I look forward to hearing more from you.<BR><BR>Best regards,<BR>Ethel
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Postby sarahwoodruff » Fri Oct 25, 2002 10:44 am

goodoldBoromir, does this mean we have a little brother? Welcome, Auntie Ethel is super, and the rest of us are really nice too. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Nimloth-in-Iber » Sat Oct 26, 2002 12:48 am

<BR>Hello, all of you!<BR><BR> Ethel, yes, I´m alive and still lurking by the different threads of the forum, enjoying the reading of the posts.<BR><BR> And I would like to welcome the new members of the family, of course!<BR><BR> Cheers,<BR><BR> Nimloth
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Postby Ethel » Sat Oct 26, 2002 2:44 pm

Nimloth,<BR>Ah, you are still here. Excellent! Have you ventured into any of the other forums yet, such as "The Books (Tolkien)" or "Movies (Lord of the Rings)"? If not, I must find a particularly interesting thread to tempt you... <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR>Vanalossen and GoodoldBoromir,<BR>I hope to see both of you here again. Adoption is an interactive activity! Not only myself, but other members of the "family" look forward to hearing more about you. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR>I've been delighted to see Saroneuroe, Sarahwoodruff and Noldorin posting in various forums. (Noldorin, are you back from your Arizona vacation yet?) Sarah has made herself quite at home in the Movies forum and Saro can be found here, there and everywhere. Excellent!<BR><BR><BR>By the way - if anyone here is interested, Saro and I will be reading Charles Dickens' "Bleak House" and commenting as we go. We did this with Sheri Tepper's "The Gate to Women's Country" and both enjoyed it immensely. Queen_Beruthiel has also agreed to take part and we're hoping to recruit another participant or two. (It's just more fun if there are several points of view.) If you are interested in reading and discussing the book with us, here is the link:<BR><BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=23&threadid=57144">Anyone up for reading Dickens "Bleak House"? </a><BR><BR><BR>Hope all are well and thriving!<BR>Ethel
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Postby Vanalossen » Sat Oct 26, 2002 4:22 pm

Hey Ethel.<BR>Sure, I'd love to tell you a little 'bout myself. I haven't been online for sometime, so that's why I havn't been here. I'm a student (both high school, and taking courses at the U), I first read Tolkien's books after I saw the Fellowship. I love Peter Jackson's movie, and can't wait until the next one comes out. Except for the small fact that he left quite a few things out, and changed what he left in, it was really good for a movie about a book. My name (Vanalosswen) is the Elvish version of my name, and it means Beautiful (fair-haired) snow maiden. I can't remember what else you asked, but look forward to a long corispondace (?) with you and the others. Thanks to all who welcomed me in. Who is everyone's fav. movie (or book) charatcer? See ya'll later.<BR>
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Postby Ethel » Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:40 pm

Hi Vanalossen!<BR><BR>I'm always interested to meet people who saw the movie before reading the books. You must have liked it, or you wouldn't have bothered with the books, but I'm curious - did you find it confusing? Were there parts that didn't make sense? What did you particularly love about it, that made you want to read the books? (BTW, we could use you in the Movies forum - we're always arguing about stuff being confusing to "newbies" but most of us have read the books so many times we really have <i>no idea</i> what would confuse a newbie!)<BR><BR>Beautiful fair-haired snow maiden! How lovely! Every time I read a description of one of these elvish screen names, I regret having chosen Ethel. But it has become my internet identity, here and elsewhere, so I guess I'm stuck with it.<BR><BR>Regarding favorite characters - I'm a Frodo fan - first, last and always. What about you?<BR><BR><BR>Edited to add: here's a link to a thread in the Tolkien Books forum that might interest you, about how seeing the movie first affected the experience of reading the book...<BR><BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=27&threadid=56375">Book spoilt by movie? </a><BR>
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Postby Ethel » Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:42 pm

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Postby Nimloth-in-Iber » Sun Oct 27, 2002 1:12 am

Hello, all of you!<BR><BR>Ethel, I posted in the thread about reading Bleak House. But I would like too to know your suggestions about another likely thread for me to participate. I´m enjoying the discussions in Frodo´s kitchen, in the Books area, but they have a background of many months and I think that maybe it would be difficult to enter now.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>Nimloth
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Postby Ethel » Sun Oct 27, 2002 3:26 am

Nimloth,<BR><BR>I am delighted that you will be joining us in reading "Bleak House." I read it many years ago and have been wanting to re-read it for quite some time. It will be much more fun with people to discuss it with! It is my favorite Dickens novel.<BR><BR>I think you should go ahead and post in the Frodo's Kitchen thread. Just introduce yourself and say that you are interested in taking part in the discussion. The people in that thread are very kind and welcoming. It <i>has</i> been going a long time, but people do come and go. I posted over there to ask someone from the thread to come here and welcome you - hope that's okay.<BR><BR>Another thread I think you might enjoy is this one:<BR><BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?start=680&catid=24&threadid=54919">ANOTHER WORD ASIDE - The Renovated Lounge and GARDEN for Bookworms </a><BR><BR>They have wonderful discussions about all kinds of books, and it's another group of particularly kind and welcoming people. In fact, some of the people who frequent that thread also have an adoption thread:<BR><BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?start=0&catid=54&threadid=56376">Bookworms' Gateway to the Lounge and Garden - All Welcome!</a><BR><BR>So you <i>know</i> they welcome newcomers!<BR><BR>Ethel
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Postby Saroneuroe » Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:36 am

Vanalossen- That's a tough question.When I first read the books Eowyn (TTT) was my favorite. I guess as a teenage girl I wanted a strong female character to identify with. At some later point I came to love Aragorn best, but now I think I would have to say that Sam is my favorite character. His fortitude and day to day loyalty and friendship really made the destruction of the ring possible. When the movie came out I was really worried about the portrayal of Sam. It would be easy to make him too comical or too servile and forget to portray the love and friendship that Sam has for Frodo. Luckily, I think that Sean Astin hit it dead on. Welcome again!<BR><BR>Ethel- Love Haldir's formalwear!!!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Nimloth- I'm so glad that you'll be joining us for Bleak House. It should be a lot of fun!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Saro
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Postby Magpie » Sun Oct 27, 2002 12:47 pm

Ethel--it's been years since I've read Bleak House! Although I just read the tail end of this thread, it sounds like fun. Are you starting something in Books(other authors) or something? Darn, I don't think I have a copy here but I'll have to look around. I pretty much love everything Dickens (except David Copperfield...could NOT get into that one for some reason). Give me the scoop!<BR><BR>Okay, on to my real reason for posting here. Nimloth, I am hereby issuing a formal welcome to you from all of us in Frodo's kitchen! You don't at all need to have been there from the beginning to quickly become a welcome face there. All you need is a deep love of Frodo, Sam and the hobbits.<BR><BR>I look forward to seeing you pop in! <BR><BR>-m
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Postby Ethel » Sun Oct 27, 2002 3:40 pm

Nimloth,<BR>There! You have now received a personal invitation to post in the "Frodo's Kithchen" thread from one of the frequent posters in that thread. As Magpie says, you need not have been there from the beginning, you need only love Frodo, Sam and the hobbits! They will be expecting you. Here is the link:<BR><BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?start=1000&catid=27&threadid=48833">Frodo's Kitchen: A Safe Haven for Devotees of the Books </a><BR><BR><BR>Magpie,<BR>We are indeed about to start a group read of "Bleak House" and I would be <i>thrilled</i> if you could join us. I've proposed a schedule of about 200 pages a week. All the details are here:<BR><BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=23&threadid=57144">Anyone up for reading Dickens "Bleak House"?</a><BR><BR>The first discussion (of the first 8 chapters) is scheduled for Wednesday, 10/30, so you're right on time.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Ethel<BR><BR><i>edited to fix a link...</i>
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Postby bessthebard » Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:57 pm

Hello Ethel, <BR><BR>I am a very confused, hesitant newbie in need of guidance. I love Tolkien's books and first read them at 13, including the Silmarillion. Seeing the movie, however, ignited a spark that threatens to turn into an obsession with all things Tolkien.<BR><BR>I have never posted to a Messageboard before, although I read all the recommended posts and threads contained in your Ask Aunt Ethel post before I got up the courage to ask for adoption. I checked out other adopters and you seemed like the best match.<BR><BR>So here I am, anxious to get started,<BR><BR>Bess the Bard
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Postby Ethel » Sun Oct 27, 2002 6:33 pm

Hi Bess!<BR><BR>Welcome to TORC, and to our little "family". I see that you have indeed been hesitant, in that you joined the board more than a month before making your first post! But this is a good thing - your willingness to read before posting almost guarantees your success on these boards.<BR><BR>I have spent time at a number of message boards, and this is by far my favorite, so you have chosen well! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Thank you for taking the time to read the links in my initial message. I believe they tell you most of what you need to know about the various forums, posting etiquette, and other essential things (like how to make "smileys"!) The next step is for you to begin feeling comfortable and confident here.<BR><BR>This comment of yours was very poignant to me: <i>Seeing the movie, however, ignited a spark that threatens to turn into an obsession with all things Tolkien.</i> Me too! I think I had a spell of Tolkien obsession when I first read the books, but that was long ago. I was surprised when I found myself going to the movie for the fourth time. By the tenth time, I realized something pretty unusual was happening and I went looking for kindred spirits on the internet. And here they are!<BR><BR>There's no reason you shouldn't begin reading posts and making an occasional one on the Tolkien Books or Tolkien Movies forums. Things are a little slow over in movies at present as we all await the Special Edition of FOTR and The Two Towers - nearly every frame of FOTR has already been "nitpicked" to death. (That's why things have gotten a bit silly, as in the Men of Middle Earth thread referenced in my signature!) But soon there will be a wealth of new material. <BR><BR>It would help me to get to know you a little bit. Where (approximately) do you live in Real Life? Are you a student? Working person? Are you interested in talking about Tolkien's books, or Peter Jackson's movies, or both? What about other books and movies? Your screen name is bessthebard - does this mean you write poetry or plays? Tell us about it!<BR><BR>Do you have any questions for me? Would you like more background on TORC? (How did you find it, by the way?)<BR><BR>Looking forward to hearing more about you...<BR>Ethel<BR>
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Postby bessthebard » Sun Oct 27, 2002 7:13 pm

Hi Ethel,<BR><BR>Thanks for the warm welcome!!<BR><BR>Shakespeare in Love is one my favorite movies, by the way. I am a long time Renaissance Festival performer and a large group of us went to see it together, in period costume. We laughed at all the set-ups of famous Shakespeare quotations and generally made the rest of the audience think we were more than a little odd.<BR><BR>I am located in the Kansas City, MO area--in Harry Truman's hometown, in fact. I've lived in Texas, Arizona, Mexico and England in the past. I'm married to a computer programmer (for 19 years) and have two kids, 9 and 10 years old. I am an attorney for an insurance company but am lucky enough to work from home. <BR><BR>I spend most of my spare time acting and directing in local theater and Renaissance Festivals. I perform as a storyteller for schools, libraries, festivals, etc. My character is Bess The Bard. <BR><BR>Recently, I also began writing LOTR fanfic. That's how I found TORC. It was recommended as a friendly and supportive place to post stories. So I put up a couple of pieces and was delighted by the intelligent, thoughtful response. <BR><BR>Then I shyly crept over to the Messageboard and read through a lot of discussions over the space of a couple of weeks. Again I was struck by the enthusiasm, insight and sheer devotion to Tolkien's work exhibited by nearly every comment. Compared to some of the less than stimulating conversation on other sites, TORC is like an oasis in the desert.<BR><BR>Lately, I dipped into the History of Middle Earth series, reading 4 so far. I also read the Letters of Tolkien and am now reading Shippey's Author of the Century. I love language, so Shippey's philological view of Tolkien is fascinating to me. <BR><BR>But I also love Jackson's movie and the first thing I will listen to is the director's commentary track on the SED. I want to know all about the choices he made as a director on how best to tell the story. <BR><BR>That's more than enough about me. Rambling on is an occupational hazard both as lawyer and storyteller (some would say those are one and the same.)<BR><BR>Looking forward to getting more familiar with the TORC family (that's how it feels already.)<BR><BR>Bess the Bard<BR>
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Postby Saroneuroe » Mon Oct 28, 2002 12:51 pm

Bess- Welcome! I went to my first Renaissance faire, King Richard's Faire in MA, last year. We went twice this year and my husband and I both splurged on costumes (see my sig pic).I'll be in your neck of the woods at Christmas. My mother lives in Jeff City and I have several cousins in the KC area. I'm glad to see that you'll be joining us for Bleak House.<BR><BR>Ethel, Nimloth, and Bess- I've gotten a good start. I was a little intimidated by the introduction, but once I got started I became absorbed. I'm looking forward to Wednesday's discussion.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Saro<BR>
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Postby bessthebard » Mon Oct 28, 2002 2:12 pm

Saro, <BR><BR>Glad to see somebody here with "Show Me State" connections. <BR><BR>Renaissance Festivals--either in performance, crafts, art or dedicated attendance as a costumed "playtron", can really become a way of life. Whether that's good or bad usually depends on the weather.<BR><BR>I am looking forward to the Bleak House discussion, too. I've already fallen in love with Dickens' use of language in his descriptions in the beginning. Oops! I'd better save that for the discussion Wednesday. I have a rehearsal that night so my contributions will be late in the evening, unfortunately.<BR><BR>Fare Thee Well, <BR><BR>Bess
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Postby Ethel » Mon Oct 28, 2002 3:08 pm

Saro,<BR>I really appreciate the way you always jump in and welcome people with a thoughtful comment or two. Maybe after you've been here four months you could apply to be an adoptor as well, and become my co-adoptor? We seem to share so many sensibilities that I think it could work well: "Ask Aunt Ethel and Cousin Saroneuroe" or some such! Just food for thought. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR>Bess,<BR>Very glad indeed you're here - I think you will fit right in. This is definitely the place to indulge your Tolkien obsession.<BR><BR>I'm so glad to hear you are a fan of "Shakespeare in Love" - obviously it's one of my favorite movies as well. I particularly loved when Will and Viola were arguing about whether that was an owl or a rooster they heard... <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Well, Bess, I can only wish that some of us were nearby so we could see you in "action", so to speak. Sounds like a lot of fun.<BR><BR>You say you've written LOTR fanfic - can you point us to one of your pieces? (I've read some pretty dreadful fanfic, but also some that's pretty good - I'd be interested in trying one of yours.) I think your comments about the TORC Messageboards are quite insightful. There's a lot of nonsense and so forth, but there are many people here who <i>really know their Tolkien</i>, and many fascinating discusiions.<BR><BR>I've read some of HOME as well - in no particular order, and more or less dipping in at random. I am currently reading Tolkien's letters and enjoying them very much.<BR><BR>I confess I'm a <i>huge</i> fan of Peter Jackson's movie. I don't seem to tire of it, and I'm avidly looking forward to the Special Edition - for the extra scenes, the commentary, and the "making of" information. I even entered the contest for tickets to see the Special Edition in the theater!<BR><BR>I'm so glad you'll be reading "Bleak House" with us. It is my favorite Dickens novel, apart from "A Christmas Carol." You say: <i>"I have a rehearsal that night so my contributions will be late in the evening, unfortunately."</i> Well, I'm on Pacific Time, so it won't be late for me! I'll try to post my thoughts very late on Tuesday, actually, so I can get in and add the word "spoilers" to the thread title. (Queen_Beruthiel is in the UK, by the way, so she'll probably usually be the first to post. One of the many things I love about TORC is how "international" it is.)<BR><BR>Ethel
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Postby Nimloth-in-Iber » Mon Oct 28, 2002 3:51 pm

Hello family:<BR><BR> Thank you, Ethel.I´m touched by your gentle efforts in making easier for me the participation in the forum.<BR> I¨m grateful too to Magpie for her kindness in taking me in Frodo´s Kitchen. I´ll visit there soon with some tasty food for the tea.<BR> Today I´ve begun to read Bleak House. I hope I¨ll be able to discuss two or three chapters in Wednesday.<BR> And a hearty welcome for Bess, the new lady in this company!<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>Nimloth
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Postby Saroneuroe » Mon Oct 28, 2002 3:55 pm

<i>Glad to see somebody here with "Show Me State" connections. </i><BR><BR>Bess- I was born in MO (we moved away before I was two) and married there at my grandfather's farm on the Osage river. It's in a tiny German farming community (pop ~50) called Mary's Home.<BR><BR>I'm happy to be here in MA, though. I like seafood too much to live in the midwest!<BR><BR> <i>Maybe after you've been here four months you could apply to be an adoptor as well, and become my co-adoptor? We seem to share so many sensibilities that I think it could work well: "Ask Aunt Ethel and Cousin Saroneuroe" or some such! Just food for thought.</i><BR><BR>Ethel- I'm flattered!!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif"border=0> I'll definitely give it some thought when my four month anniversary comes around!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> I'm sailing through Bleak House much more quickly than I thought I would. I'll have to bring a back-up book tomorrow on the train to make sure that I <b>don't</b> read ahead!!! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Saro <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby sarahwoodruff » Mon Oct 28, 2002 5:41 pm

Hi Bess! Welcome to "Auntie" Ethel's thread!<BR><BR>What is your favorite play by Shakespeare? Mine is a Midsummer's Night Dream followed by Hamlett, Romeo& Juliet and Othello. My exposure is limited to the better know ones...to my dismay I have never had a chance to see MacBeth or King Lear in a live production <BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif"border=0>...maybe someday.<BR><BR>Come visit movies, if you enjoy a rousing discussion. I think I just helped stir up a hornet's nest in the thread by Kelannar-The Purist revenge or some such...looks like fun! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Hugs to Auntie, Sauro, Van, Nimloth, and, ahem, GoodoldBoromir. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>
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Postby bessthebard » Mon Oct 28, 2002 6:55 pm

Good Even, Fair Gentles!<BR><BR>I'm tickled at all the friendly welcomes I received. Thank you!!<BR><BR>I've never been part of a book readers group before. I'm really looking forward to the Bleak House discussion on Wednesday. Have to admit I'm also curious to see what the UK group member will have to say about this book.<BR><BR>Ethel, I looked up my favorite quote from "Shakespeare in Love" just for you. Trust me, truer words were never spoken about theater or any of the performing arts.<BR><BR><BR> HENSLOWE<BR> Mr. Fennyman, let me explain about the <BR> theatre business.<BR> (they stop)<BR> The natural condition is one of <BR> insurmountable obstacles on the road <BR> to imminent disaster. Believe me, to <BR> be close by the plague is a bagatelle <BR> in the ups and downs of owning a <BR> theatre.<BR><BR> FENNYMAN<BR> So what do we do?<BR><BR> HENSLOWE<BR> Nothing. Strangely enough , it all <BR> turns out well.<BR><BR> FENNYMAN<BR> How?<BR><BR> HENSLOWE<BR> I don't know. It's a mystery.<BR> <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>If anyone would like to read my LOTR fanfiction I would be honored. As articulate and learned as this crew seems to be, I'm a little scared, but I like living dangerously (not!).<BR><BR>Here is the link to my short story "The Long Goodbye"<BR><BR>http://www.tolkienonline.com/docs/7497.html<BR><BR>Here is the link to the first chapter of "Gilrond's Children". <BR>(There are 15 chapters and the last two are still up on the first page of the Stories Section of the Reading Room.)<BR><BR>http://www.tolkienonline.com/docs/7460.html<BR><BR>Again, thanks for the welcome. I'm happy to be here amongst so many fine and excellent people. (Hmmm...now why does that sound familiar?)<BR><BR>Fare Thee Well, <BR><BR>Bess<BR><BR>
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Postby bessthebard » Mon Oct 28, 2002 7:11 pm

Sarah, <BR><BR>Since my love affair with Shakespeare began at age 8, when I my aunt gave me 3 albums of his plays (I've just really dated myself, haven't I?), I could go on forever about the Bard. Even though Tolkien didn't think much of him and despised Shakespeare's descriptions of faeries. The only good Tolkien seemed to get out of Shakespeare was an inspiration for moving forests.<BR><BR>I've never seen Lear in a live production, either. That's one I want to see done professionally. Done badly, I think it would be unbearable.<BR><BR>But my favorite plays are Taming of the Shrew, Merchant of Venice, Richard III (especially Sir Ian's production) and Twelvth Night. MacBeth is a top one, as well. Wish I could see Sean Bean's current run as the Thane. (sigh).<BR><BR>Well, I will stop before I start to froth at the mouth and declaim in iambic pentameter. <BR><BR>Exit stage right, pursued by bear. (The only stage direction ever written by Shakespeare in the Folios.)<BR><BR>Fare Thee Well.<BR><BR>Bess<BR><BR>
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