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Postby mar » Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:16 am

Thank you for the welcome Pretty Galadriel <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Mahima, I always say "so far" because you never really know what is going to happen. I do not think that being a decent woman is going to change, I do not intend to change it. But I am SO different as I thought I would be when I was a kid and I did so many things I never thought I would do. I gues that´s the way life is <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Armenelos » Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:31 am

it certainly is <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby BigMama » Thu Oct 02, 2003 2:32 pm

I am very new to this and have no idea what I am doing! My first introduction to Tolkien was over 35 years ago when my high school advanced biology teacher decided to write all the extra credit questions on his exams in elvish. We had to learn Tolkien's elvish alphabet and respond in kind to receive extra points. Since that time, I have read the Hobbit and the LOTR at least once a year, and often more than twice. By conservative estimate, I believe I have read these works 60+ times! Since I am able to quote long passages from memory(at my age that is all I can remember!), I find some of PJ's changes quite difficult to rationalize, but I have enjoyed the films in spite of this. Since I am extremely bookish and a speed reader, I will read anything worthy of print. My other favorites in this genre include Kristin Britain's Green Rider books, but I also enjoy Jack Higgins and Clive Cussler--all great mind candy! If I can figure out what the heck I am doing, I believe I would enjoy being adopted.
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Postby Armenelos » Thu Oct 02, 2003 4:26 pm

well, welcome to the boards, i'm sure Wilko will add you to the front list when he is online.<BR><BR>if you have any questions let us know, we should be able to answer them pretty well. i noticed that you're username places you as a female. if you click on 'My Settings' on the top of the page, you can change your alliance to any one you want, and if you'd like to stay with None, there is a female version as well.<BR><BR>also, to read more about the adopters, the second post of this thread has some short biographies.<BR><BR>again, welcome <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby BigMama » Thu Oct 02, 2003 6:06 pm

Thank you for the welcome. As I read the biographical sketches I find another fan of J.K. Rowling. I have definitely found a home!
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Postby BigMama » Thu Oct 02, 2003 6:09 pm

Yikes!! I also know how to spell Tolkien.
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Postby Novice » Fri Oct 03, 2003 3:15 am

BigMama, may I also shake your hand in welcome! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>My name doesn't appear in the Adopters list because my life got too busy to maintain an active presence and so I formally excused myself. Still, my heart remains with the Bookworms and I wander in here on an irregular basis.<BR><BR>I'm another annual reader of the works, though I tend to the LOTR and the Silm rather than The Hobbit -- though I'm reading it again now after a hiatus of about 5 years because my son chose it as his current bedtime book (bless him!). Over a period of about 28 years (I discovered Tolkien relatively late compared to many on this site, who seem to have learned their A-B-C's reading The Hobbit <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> ) I guess I've also read the books more than 40 or so times.<BR><BR>Your introduction to the elvish made me chuckle. I recall when I was about 15 my closest friend and I (I had bullied her into reading LOTR and she was a reluctant convert) used to exchange notes in class using the Runes of Daeron to phonetically spell out English words<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>. Ah yes! Those were the days!<BR><BR>BigMama, how can we help you to find your pleasure on these boards? Can we assist you in your interests or are you happy exploring? What <i>are</i> your interests? Discussing Tolkien's works? (There's the Books forum which ranges from casual questions to deep and meaningful discussion--and the Virtual Study Group which is much more systematic and encourages deeper analysis) The Movies? (There are some very interesting discussions in that forum between those who are happy with PJ's changes and those who are not--though be warned that Movies posters tend not to suffer foolishness with any grace) There are opportunities for involvement in collaborative storytelling in the Roleplay forums (which are not Gaming forums in the traditional sense at all).<BR><BR>I'm blabbing. Sorry.<BR><BR>If there are technical queries, give a holler.
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Postby BigMama » Fri Oct 03, 2003 5:15 am

Novice--thank you also for the warmth of your welcome and continue please to blab all you want! As a homeschooling mom many years ago I also introduced my two daughters to Tolkien by reading The Hobbit and the LOTR to them <i>out loud</i>! Has anyone else out there realized the incredible lyrical qualities of these works when vocalized? I have already begun to enjoy reading the threads and making small, tentative observations.
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Postby Novice » Fri Oct 03, 2003 5:41 am

<i>Has anyone else out there realized the incredible lyrical qualities of these works when vocalized?</i><BR><BR>Absolutely! I tend to read the Elvish aloud because I find it so mellifluous (to the bemusement of my beloved, as it's usually in bed when he's trying to get to sleep <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> )...and I read all the songs/poems outloud. Over the years I've created my own melodies for some of the songs which came to me spontaneously almost as if innate to the words themselves and seem so 'right' that the melodies don't changed whenever I come across those passages.<BR><BR>Not that Tolkien was such a great poet, but IMO he did encapsulate the essential difference between the cultures and races in his lyrical forays. The rolicking of his hobbit songs cannot be mistaken for the darkness and depth of the dwarven songs for example....and all are a far cry from the melancholy of Galadriel's quenya lament.<BR>
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Postby wilko185 » Fri Oct 03, 2003 6:54 am

<b>BigMama</b>, welcome! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>.<BR><BR>I agree about reading LOTR aloud. Even though I don't do that (apart from some of the poems, to turn them into songs), I've found that reading LOTR more slowly than my normal pace, reading it aloud in my head, so to speak, improves many passages. Gives me time to slow down and savour the scenery <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>. Tolkien thought LOTR worked better read aloud, he may have considered it more in the tradition of the great oral epics, rather than a novel.<BR><BR>If you know swathes of the text by heart, you should do well in some of the trivia threads in the Books forum, but there's more interesting threads than that to post in. And I see you've already found the Other Authors forum, which is mostly fantasy but anything can be discussed there.<BR><BR>BTW (by the way), if you want to edit one of your posts, (to correct an author's name say <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>), click the edit button at thebottom right of the post. <BR>It's good form to acknowledge any major changes you make, especially if the posts after yours might not make sense anymore.
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Postby Armenelos » Fri Oct 03, 2003 7:01 am

i've read the books every year as well, but included in that are the Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales, and The History of Middle-earth for the last few years. only difference is that i'm 20, and started when i was 9, so it has been fewer times for me. although i've probably read the silmarillion more than 20 times.
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Postby BigMama » Fri Oct 03, 2003 11:14 am

I, too, have enjoyed the Sil and Unfinished Tales but they simply don't have the power of his original works. "Begone, foul dwimmerlaik, lord of carrion! Leave the dead in peace!"
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Postby Armenelos » Fri Oct 03, 2003 11:55 am

well, i've said it many times before, i'd rather have them than nothing at all. most definately, and i am very grateful to Christopher Tolkien. there's no way that they could've been published in J.R.R.'s time, because he was particular about them. but they are so amazing that it would be a shame for no one to have seen them.
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Postby wilko185 » Fri Oct 03, 2003 9:56 pm

<b>BigMama</b>, I see you got suckered into replying to the "Is the book as good as the movie??" thread in Books <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>. Please don't take that thread at all seriously, it is solely designed to have a bit of fun with newbies who will get all offended at the title.<BR><BR>That is the only such thread in Books, I think... but expect similar "newbie-traps" and in-jokes in the Movies forum, if you ever venture there. It's all part of the culture. People go to Books to celebrate (the books), people go to Movies to argue (about the films)... people don't go to either to make friends, particularly, but that's what forums like this one are for <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>.
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Postby niphredilmaiden » Fri Oct 03, 2003 11:30 pm

Hullo! *waves enthusiastically * <BR><BR>From as far back as I can remember I have been into books, and even now my friends think I'm a freak when I go into the library or open one up at lunch time... haha. Well that's why I would like to be adopted into the book worms! I started reading Tolkien's works after LOTR - FOTR came out, and now I have a severe passion for both. The books are sooo better though. More passion I reckon. <BR>I'm under 18 (awwe I feel so young and stuupid!) and final exams are coming up so I have to be studying for those instead of being on the computer, like I am now. uuuuummmmmmmmmm. I live in New Zealand (i didn't see no filming *sob*) but a couple of days ago I bungee jumped off the bridge above the Kawarau river that the fellowship were supposed to have rafted from. Or something like that. The water looks soo like the River on the movie, I was buzzing! <BR>OOOOOHHHHH YEAH! I just finished reading the Silmarillion!! I am so proud of myself and happy cause it's such an awesome book - I can't believed why I hadn't read it before! The tale of Luthien and Beren caught my heart the most... oh so sad and yet oh so brilliant. And most of all I can't wait to actually talk with people who know about Tolkien, since nobody will listen to my ranting and ravings about Ungoliant, and Beren, and how I finally know why Elrond is called 'half-elven' haha duur!!! Ok so after that I was a tad excited...<BR><BR>Well I've rambled on for long enough so now it's time to say farewell. Can't wait to explore the site better (as I should have done a long time ago..) and yeah, Hi-Bye-and thank you!
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Postby niphredilmaiden » Fri Oct 03, 2003 11:39 pm

Oh yeah I have just one quick question. How do you get the little dashes above the letters like in L'u'thien, and Earendil and stuff? I never know how those are done!
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Postby Armenelos » Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:05 am

welcome to Tolkien Online. i'm glad that you like Tolkien's work, i do too. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>it's funny that you ask about the accents, because i just answered that same question somewhere else a few minutes ago. here is a link where you can find out how to do it:<BR><BR><a href='http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=33683' target=_blank>How to make Umlauts and special characters ( ie: á, ë, Æ, §, Ö, é, etc)</a><BR><BR>again welcome, i'm sure Wilko will add you to the front list when he gets a chance. if you have any questions about tolkien, or about the site, just ask!<BR><BR>by the way, how is the weather in New Zealand this time of year?
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Postby niphredilmaiden » Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:55 pm

It was miserable one day, then blue skies the next. Now it's sort of... dull grey - very unpredictable this time of year!
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Postby Armenelos » Sat Oct 04, 2003 3:14 pm

did you figure out the accents yet?
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Postby BigMama » Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:03 pm

Worry not about this newbie, altho I appreciate your concern. This board is so much more civil than many of the others that it is a pleasure to participate. I love the "sucker" thread and find some of the suggestions very stimulating!
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Postby striderchick » Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:44 pm

oh my goodness...I haven't been here for so long.. i feel so bad.. you were all so good to me, and i waited too long before coming back to visit ... please forgive me<BR>striderchick
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Postby niphredilmaiden » Sat Oct 04, 2003 9:30 pm

ÆÈÊé&#262;æâ§®ß HURRAH!!!<BR><BR>Thank you for the link <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby niphredilmaiden » Sat Oct 04, 2003 9:34 pm

Hello striderchick, I just noticed that I joined a year after your first aniversary... oh well that's nice isn't it?
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Postby BigMama » Mon Oct 06, 2003 4:57 am

Newbies--if you haven't discovered the Sea Wolves at the Prancing Pony, go there. Its an awesome thread! Thanks Novice.
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Postby CaMinx » Mon Oct 06, 2003 6:47 pm

Welcome <b>niphredilmaiden!</b> Ohhh Blush! I have not yet read Silmarillion ... Giggling however after I read The Lord of the Rings, it was 6 months before I could read anything else. Sigh ~ I just could not bear to leave Middle Earth. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Greetings <b>BigMama!</b> Hmmm I think I shall take a peek at the Sea Wolves thread. Ohh I must say I do love your name! <BR><BR>
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Postby Novice » Mon Oct 06, 2003 7:59 pm

Welcome <b>niphredilmaiden </b>. You sound so enthusiastic! It's lovely to see. So...have you found some interesting areas to explore? Lurking anywhere? I remember how much fun it was being a newbie, everything seeming so fresh and exciting. Sigh. I feel like a jaded old lady sometime.<BR><BR><b>CaMinx</b> where are you these days?! I haven't seen you in an age! <i>Hugs the shy puss</i><BR><BR><b>BigMama</b> I'm pleasantly surprised that you clicked the link to the Sea Wolves and read it; I've been taking it for granted that people tend not to jump to my links (So why have them? you ask. Well, I live in hope). <BR><BR>And I'm very, very flattered that you felt it worth commenting on the story thread. It is currently in hiatus, but NOT, definitely NOT at a stop. A couple of the writers are temporarily without internet access and as soon as they are back on I will channel all my energy to rejuvenating that thread. <BR><BR>And, by the way, as we have lost a couple of writers, new writers who respond to the ambience of the story are VERY WELCOME!<BR><BR><b>Armenelos</b> you are wonderful in responding so quickly and with such welcome to new adoptees. I just wanted to acknowledge it and let you know how lucky we feel to have you here.
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Postby wilko185 » Mon Oct 06, 2003 8:41 pm

<b>niphredilmaiden</b> hi and welcome! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>. You know, you're so bubbling with enthusiasm I'm not at all surprised you've been bungee-jumping <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>.<BR><BR><b>striderchick</b> (another kiwi <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>), welcome back. How's things?<BR><BR><b>BigMama</b>, glad you're having fun with the "newbie trap" <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>. Some people seem to get offended by that thread.
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Postby Mahima » Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:52 pm

Welcome to TORC <b>BigMama</b> and <b>niphredilmaiden</b>! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR>Goood to see you both here.<BR><BR>Regarding Tolkien, I am in <b>niphredilmaiden's</b> category, except that I read The Hobbit and FOTR on full speed before seeing the movie. Me being more-bookish and less movie-ish. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> <b>BigMama</b>, you are sooo way ahead of us! <BR>But we all love the books, yess preciousssss, yesss we does. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR><b>Armenelos</b>, thanks a lot for the links to the accent thread! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Now like our new adoptee, I can make them too!!! Sometimes, the adopters learn more! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Listening to all of you about reading Tolkien aloud, I have decided to buy my niece "The Hobbit" and am insisting that my cousin brother read it aloud to her! Lets hope he does. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>
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Postby niphredilmaiden » Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:50 pm

Hello again! Thank you all for the welcomes, it makes me feel so - welcome <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> I'm in that mode where I am loving anything remotely related to Tolkien, and longing desperatley to be at home reading the Silmarillion again. At school today I ended up daydreaming on the posibilities of Elvish Role-play names instead of paying attention in class!
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Postby CaMinx » Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:12 pm

<i>CaMinx gives <b>Novice</b> a warm hug... <BR><BR>Purrrrrr...</i><BR><BR>I have taken up massage therapy. Yesss in a mere 150hrs I shall be a Certified Massage Therapist. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> And then there are many more classes I can take like reflexology, facials, etc. which will add on to my hours. <BR><BR>Giggling ~ I was thinking of scoping out a lil corner in the Lounge for my massage table ~ I still need to practice ... <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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