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Postby meneltarma » Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:04 am

About 11 rolls of film were used...here's a few to start with...<BR><BR><a href='http://img23.photobucket.com/albums/v69/feathered/Orient/' target=_blank>piccies</a>
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Postby Castanea_d. » Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:01 pm

Great pictures!!!!!<BR><BR>In number 4, that cannot possibly be what it is - a row of smilies?<BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Positive proof that the Internet was actually invented many centuries ago in S.E. Asia.<BR><BR>-----------<BR>MariaH., congratulations to your daughter!!!!! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR>And I'm glad your son is healing up better.<BR>Funny how most doctors ignore anything to do with vitamins or supplements. They do not seem willing to even consider the possibility that some of them might help. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0><BR><BR>One of my old buddies used to talk about pharmacy school, which he attended in the 1940's. They had a required course in herbology, with a stickler of a teacher who would not let anyone graduate from the school unless they had a thorough knowledge of medicinal herbs and their properties. He would even bring in old women who remembered the old mountain lore (this was at West Virginia University) to share what they knew with the students. I always thought of the House of Healing scenes in ROTK when I heard this story.<BR><BR>I gather that such classes disappeared from pharmacy schools long ago. Most unfortunate.
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Postby Axordil » Tue Apr 27, 2004 2:44 pm

Doctors are generally dubious of that which they do not personally do. Surgeons don't trust nutrition, nutritionists don't trust cutters.<BR><BR>MariaH--tell your daughter if she studies they'll just give her the _hard_ version of the test. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> And tell your son to stop fooling around and get better! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>melly-<BR>Wow.
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Postby meneltarma » Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:03 pm

I was amazed by the smiley thing too...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>As for the herbology thing, in this country we have situations where people trust only herbologists, not doctors. It can lead to some very painful situations.<BR><BR>I think knowledge of both is essential.<BR>
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Postby RealDeal » Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:14 am

Castanea_d -> Weekend was great thanks. Kill Bill 2 was slightly disappointing, but we got good weather in Ireland (for once) so I went for a picnic in the park, got a tinsy tan. It's a long weekend this weekend, gonna play some games, drink some ale and get a deserved lie in.
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Postby Axordil » Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:31 pm

Who could ask for anything more? <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Tinsy?
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Postby RealDeal » Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:18 am

I was going for the double t effect there Ax, but I <u>might</u> have spelt that wrong! So tinsy or tinsey, as in small, not the colour of tin <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> It's Denim Day in work today, I get to impress all the ladies with my stylish clothes. If only there were ladies here.
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Postby meneltarma » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:51 pm

I normally spell it 'teensy'<BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0>
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Postby Axordil » Sat May 01, 2004 7:25 am

And speaking of whom, got more pix up?
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Postby meneltarma » Sat May 01, 2004 8:40 am

I will soon...too busy to actually upload them<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0>
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Postby Jnyusa » Sat May 01, 2004 3:22 pm

Cool pics, melly!<BR><BR>Really hope your son continues to get better, MariaH. The wound sounds painful. <BR><BR>Best wishes to everyone else!<BR><BR>Jn
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Postby MariaHobbit » Mon May 03, 2004 8:13 am

I've seen it as "teeny". <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> As in: "She wore an itsy bitsy, teeny weeny yellow polka dot bikini..." <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR>Well, Jn, it wasn't actually very painful for him until last week when he developed a raging infection from a gastrointestinal bug and started lots of vomiting. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif"border=0> He had to go back on antibiotics Friday. Fortunately, that cleared up the symptoms right away, but he was a pretty sick boy for a while there.<BR><BR>Turns out that when his last round of antibiotics was over, the *wrong* kind of bacteria took up residence in his intestines. We are killing them off with new antibiotics, and I've ordered several kinds of *good* bacteria probiotic pills for him to take as soon as he's off this current round of antibiotics.<BR><BR>With any luck at all, these *good* bugs will colonize the intestines and leave no room for bad bugs. I had no idea that intestinal flora was SO important before this. I thought just feeding him live yogurt after the antibiotics were over would be sufficient. Turns out that yogurt has just one of many different bacteria that he needs, for proper diversity.<BR><BR>There ought to be warnings, when doctors put you on antibiotics, that you need to repopulate your gut properly afterwards. This doctor just left it up to chance that the right bacteria would happen to come along and set up residence.<BR><BR>Hmmmph! I did some web research and found out the best kinds of bacteria, and have purchased all but one of them.<BR><BR>Does anybody know a product that contains <em>Lactobacillus johnsoni</em>? That one's supposed to be especially good for emitting chemicals that suppress bad bugs in the gut, but I can't find any products either online or in the health food store in town that carry that particular bacteria. I found references that state it is used commonly in Europe, but no listings of products that might contain it.<BR><BR>I'll keep looking. I've got 7 more days before he finishes this course of antibiotics.<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> <BR><BR>I hope everyone has a wonderful day.<BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR> <BR><BR>
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Postby RealDeal » Mon May 03, 2004 8:20 am

Ax and MariaHobbit -> I'd have to go with Ax on the teensy spelling, that's exactly how I should've spelt it.
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Problems with new board?

Postby Axordil » Wed May 05, 2004 8:13 am

Is anyone other than jnyusa having problems with the new system? She's on a Mac and despairing of being able to remain with us.
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Postby MariaHobbit » Wed May 05, 2004 6:49 pm

No real problems here.

I hope you make it back, Jn!!!
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Postby meneltarma » Fri May 07, 2004 3:27 am

No problems, but I don't like it.
*sulks*

I uploaded more photos, Ax, click on the previous link.
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Postby RealDeal » Fri May 07, 2004 6:13 am

Hmmm... what's this? Why has everything changed? *goes off to do some detective work* :?
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Postby Castanea_d. » Sat May 08, 2004 11:01 am

It is going to take a LOT of getting used to.

One thing that will be an adjustment for me is that I was used to keeping track of threads by way of the e-mail notices. They don't work the same way now, though I have gotten two e-mailed notices, one of them from a thread where I posted but was not subscribed and was not really much interested - and have not gotten notices of updates to threads I am interested in, like this one.

Much of my consternation is probably just from not understanding how things work in the new system, and not having time at this point in Real Life to deal with figuring it out.

It happens to coincide with a point when I was beginning to ask myself a question Axordil asked in a Manwe thread: "Why are we here?"

I used to follow the doings in Movies, but am not in the least interested in what is going on there these days, except for the ongoing thread on the Howard Shore concerts. PippinScarf is a singer in one of the symphonic choruses that is doing the LOTR Symphony, and has linked an online diary of her experiences with it in rehearsals. That has been fun, as has been reading the experiences of those who have attended the concerts. I've tiptoed into Manwe, and am right now pretty disgusted with the fact that it is essentially two or three arguments recycled through thread after thread with the same people taking the same sides and not much listening to each other going on. meneltarma and I are both in a "Ulysses" book-reading thread, which looks like it will be fun, and I remain active in the "Eru" thread over in Alliances. That isn't really very much, and little of it has to do with JRRT and Middle-Earth, the reasons we all (probably) came here in the first place.

There are many other places to visit; I am keeping an eye on the Virtual Tolkien Study Group, and may un-lurk over there when they get around to LOTR someday. There is Talk - I've barely peeked in there. Any other places you all would suggest?

The messageboard change came at a very bad time for me psychologically - I feel the temptation to just throw in the towel and disappear. I hope TORC does not lose too many people because of it.

And Jnyusa's situation is Very Serious. I suppose Mac users are used to discrimination ;);););) but we need her wisdom and wit and presence here at the Diner and elsewhere.

It was bad enough losing Tigger. (I'm still pretty peeved about that, and miss her a lot).

In RL, just finished playing the funeral of one of the "characters" in our parish, who dropped dead suddenly a few days ago. Years ago he used to be a Big Ten football official, and was buried in his striped shirt :D:D:D:D:D:D I got a good laugh when I saw him there in the casket, and he would have heartily approved of laughter at his funeral. He got quite a bit; people told good stories about him, and it was an occasion of fond remembrance.
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Postby Faramond » Mon May 10, 2004 1:21 am

I nearly lost one of my posts, but I suppose I haven't had any major problems with this strange new MB world. Not yet, anyway. For what it's worth, which is probably nothing, I'm on a Mac.

I suppose Mac users are used to discrimination


Funny, I always thought PC users were discriminated against because they had to deal with MicroSoft. :wink:

It happens to coincide with a point when I was beginning to ask myself a question Axordil asked in a Manwe thread: "Why are we here?"


Exactly. I mean, this sort of question is why I haven't posted for weeks now. After awhile there seemed little point. Incidentally, if anyone is wondering who the heck I am, I'm the one who dumped out the bucket of Neeker-Breekers all over the Diner some time ago. Why isn't there a Neeker-Breeker emoticon? :?:

I agree with you, Castanea, Manwe is fairly dreary right now. How many times can Iraq and the Civil War and Bush/Kerry be rehashed? I suppose I should stop complaining and start an interesting new topic.


MariaHobbit--

I hope your son continues to improve. I've read through all of your updates since I last posted, and I can't imagine what it's been like. Best wishes and prayers.


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Save a stool for Jnyusa--

Postby Axordil » Mon May 10, 2004 7:28 am

...as it looks as if we'll be missing her until she can get a new computer (later this summer she hopes). :cry: The trials of OS 9 Users...

Ulysses, huh? How far are you into it?
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Postby MariaHobbit » Mon May 10, 2004 5:37 pm

Faramond wrote:MariaHobbit--

I hope your son continues to improve. I've read through all of your updates since I last posted, and I can't imagine what it's been like. Best wishes and prayers.

-Faramond


Well, Faramond, for a while there, I was wishing for one of those MIB flashy pens. You know, the ones that make you forget a particular incident?

But time numbs most trauma, and the particular incident doesn't even bother me now in retrospect. At least not much. ;)

The boy is much better now. :) He had an appointment with the doctor today and they were amazed again at the swiftness of his progress. I didn't even bother trying to remind them of the value of vitamins and nutritional supplements. B^ Closed minds.....

Hey Ax, tell Jn I said hi! She never displayed her email, so I can't email her. Give her mine, would you please? :)
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What's all this then? A subject line? How odd!

Postby Faramond » Tue May 11, 2004 12:11 am

I was completely befuddled by the ellipses in your message Ax, until I noticed the new subject line feature.

I couldn't fathom what you were following up with the "...as it looks as if..." in the main body until I noticed the "Save a stool for Jnyusa" hidden away at the very top of the message.

I don't know; the subject line thing seems a strange feature. I suppose it could be useful, though.

Speaking of the new MB system, I like that color is spelt "colour" in the reply box legend.

Incidentally, I'm also running OS9 with my mac, and I'm not really having any conflicts with the new MB system. I don't think incompatibility with OS9 can be the sole cause of Jn's problems. Then again, I could be wrong. Very easily. :D

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Postby MariaHobbit » Tue May 11, 2004 6:19 am

I missed the "subject line" too! :oops:
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Postby Axordil » Tue May 11, 2004 8:39 am

I missed it too, and I put it in!

Maria--done. And glad to hear he's recovering.
Faramond--jny's Mac seems to be unhappy in general. Too many consultants spoil the broth, or some such. But she really wishes she could at least lurk... :cry:
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this space reserved for secret messages

Postby Faramond » Wed May 12, 2004 12:20 am

Ax--

It's so true. Putting too many consultants in the broth will spoil it.

But jn can't even lurk? Man alive, that's harsh. Man alive.
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Postby MariaHobbit » Thu May 13, 2004 6:57 am

I wonder if it is pertinent that all Jn's old posts are stretched out longer then everyone elses? I just happened to notice that today.

I really like it that we can search for our own names again. Makes keeping track of old threads that resurface easier. :)
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Neek-breek

Postby Faramond » Thu May 13, 2004 11:03 pm

Sploosh!

Oh no!

Not you too, MariaHobbit!

Another consultant has gone into the broth. :wink:


Seriously, I went back and looked at her old posts, and they didn't look longer to me.

Then again, I'm not sure I can believe my own eyes anymore. Not after seeing Derek Fisher hit a shot with 0.4 :shock: seconds left to lift the Lakers over the Spurs. No sir. Man alive, what a game.
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Postby MariaHobbit » Fri May 14, 2004 6:32 am

Really? You don't see that? %( Her posts are an inch and a half wider than the others on this thread! It stretches the page and I have to scroll back and forth to read everything.




Edit: That's strange. After I posted this, I looked again and her posts are normal width. Now MY eyes are playing tricks!
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Postby Jnyusa » Fri May 14, 2004 9:35 pm

I can't believe it. A reply box and a messageboard that I can read! Forget learning the emoticons for now, I'm just going to concentrate on clicking the correct side of the mouse on this Windows program.

My wonderful daughter #2 has loaned me her computer until the school term is over so that I don't have to mess with a computer upgrade and write new graduate lectures at the same time. It feels really awkward to use this computer though, so I won't be spewing any wisdom. Just trying not to have to edit too much.

Good to 'see' all of you again. Literally! I managed to lurk using Netscape for a few days but you wouldn't believe what the posts looked like. Sometimes the text scrolled from left to right and sometimes it scrolled from top to bottom, like Chinese. The only way to tell which comments went with which poster's sig pic was to recognize the writing style, attitude, etc. Kinda frightening that it wasn't terribly difficult to do that!!!

This is stressing me out a bit, so ... short post. But Hi! to all.

Maria, thanks for sending the email addy. I was going to write you a note but I'm here instead. So glad you son is on the upswing.

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Postby meneltarma » Fri May 14, 2004 11:55 pm

Good to see you back, Jny :)

Does anyone know how to access profiles on this board?
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