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Postby Erufailon.Atanvarno » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:29 pm

Isn't mutton just dead lamb? Like how we say "pork" for pigs, and "beef" for cows?

heliona wrote:But then again, Americans traditionally have a much sweeter tooth than Europeans with regards their savoury food.


You should have seen the looks on my grandparents' faces when we tried to give them cranberry sauce with their turkey? "Jam? with meat? You're crazy!"

CR wrote:For some, it's a traditional dish at Easter


Yes. In my family, lamb is huge around Easter, there are lots of dishes that can be made from it.
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Postby heliona » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:39 pm

Erufailon.Atanvarno wrote:Isn't mutton just dead lamb? Like how we say "pork" for pigs, and "beef" for cows?


What?! No! Lamb is baby sheep, alive or dead, mutton is old sheep. Traditionally tough as old boots - poor crofting farmers traditionally ate mutton because they couldn't afford anything else - they just a sheep that died of old age, for example.
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Postby RoseMorninStar » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:51 pm

Ah... I also thought mutton was just another word for lamb meat. You don't see lamb sold in stores around here. Maybe I'll have to seek it out & give it a try sometime. I know some people put mint jelly on it... but I bet portia's hot pepper jelly would taste better! Whatever it was that I thought was lamb.. it smelled greasy & gamey.


On the sweet potatoes.. Mostly I put butter & pecans on mine.. a bit of cinnamon &/or nutmeg. I do not like things that are overly sweet.. one reason I cannot drink many bottled sodas or teas is because I find them far too sweet.. When I put brown sugar on my sweet potatoes, it's about one or two tablespoons per 4 LARGE yams. Just for a little flavoring, it doesn't really sweeten it much. It kind of reminds me of the flavor that one gets with those Austrian roasted almonds or whatever they are called.
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Postby Ayslhyn » Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:04 pm

Well Rosie you would be hard put to find mutton even in the UK. Most folk find it far too rank and strong and it is not popular these days.

A few specialist suppliers sell it but I ain't buying it. Hey if I wanted to live in medieval times I'd roll in mud, eat pottage and turnips and die of the plague :wink:
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Postby portia » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:38 pm

Another way to prepare lamb is to grind it up and mix it with pomegranate seed and a few onions and make patties. Serve with Pita bread.

To-nite Mr. Portia is doing cod fillets with a sauce of sour cream and leftover crab dip. I think it will work.
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Postby Erufailon.Atanvarno » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:47 pm

In Oblivion, killing sheep is a crime. But you get mutton if you do, and they're pretty good for making potions.

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Postby RoseMorninStar » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:43 am

Eru.. I just 'caught' your siggy pic. Good one!

Ayslhyn wrote: Hey if I wanted to live in medieval times I'd roll in mud, eat pottage and turnips and die of the plague.


Gee.. that kinda sounds like Patsy. ;)

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Postby Vanaladiel » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:29 pm

I love the medieval thing but not the mutton. I prefer something a bit more fresh and tender. I only eat fish, chicken breast, some burgers now and then but nothing much else. Well pizza and that isn't medieval I guess. :rofl:

We eat using recipes that are typical medieval when we eat out in the pavilion and at events. Anything we can cook over a camp fire in the brazer and that is simple to fix. We eat lots of rolls, cheese, dried meats and fresh fruits and veggies. Finding some of the spices from the medieval days is difficult cause they used different spices then now and some are like now but with different names so we have to research them out to find what to use. It's kind of cool.
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Postby Cock-Robin » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:39 pm

Ooooh, that sounds wonderful! I've just GOT to take in one of those festivals one day.
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Postby Vanaladiel » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:46 pm

There are Ren Faires all over the place in the summer. You might have to check it out and see if you can find something in your area. Many are for members who bring in guests to the events but there are usually some that the general public is invited to so they can get a taste of the world we have there. It would be awesome for you to get to make it to an event of some sort since I think you would love it. :thumbsup:
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Postby rwhen » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:39 am

Hello all FOODIES!!

:D Our Thanksgiving was awesome, just perfect. The turkey moist, tender and delish. Sides were excellent, mashed taters, gravy, yeast rolls, braised sprouts, sweet taters with maple syrup and pecans, excellent dressing/stuffing, pumpkin/gingerbread trifle. Just excellent, also the deviled eggs and torte were lovely as appitizers.

Sounds like everyone survived.

portia, I got the package and also tasted the jelly and I LOVE IT!! You can include me anytime that you make this, I am happy to donate to the church. :D :hug: Thank you.

Lamb chops are lovely, I have not been able to get my head around any other cut or method of preparation. But broiled chops are sweet and juicy and I love them.

Ayslhyn, sweet taters with some butter and brown sugar to me is good, but I rarely eat them. I prefer squash really. Hope your weekend was great with whatever you did.

My weekend was very busy...Thursday and Friday for family stuff and then Saturday morning a breakfast for my nephews birthday. Saturday afternoon I took a long walk and shredded my legs and posterior so Sunday was spent pretty much on the couch immobile as possible. It still hurts a good bit today. :roll:

On Chililicious, yes, they have a beer and wine license, but will only serve beer for drinks. Well, soft drinks and MILK of course. ;)

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Postby heliona » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:21 pm

rwhen wrote:And they will know today if all inspections pass and get occupancy tomorrow. Keep everything crossed.


Woohoo! Brilliant news! I'm sure they'll pass with flying colours. :)

Dinner tonight was grilled marinated chicken with stir-fry rice and vegetables - my man can cook. :D
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Postby rwhen » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:30 pm

hello heliona!! Your supper sounds lovely to me. And YES, your man CAN cook. :hug: How are things going for you? Did you have a great last four days?


portia. UPDATE. Well, I lost half of my jelly. :roll: My brother and I were talking about it and I remarked that this jelly would taste great on a cornbread waffle. So he made one and we split it. It was FANTASTIC. So I am closing up the jar and he says, "you aren't going to leave me any of that?" All hang dog and pathetic like.

So guess who has half of it now? :D We both adore it. Thank you again!!
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Postby heliona » Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:10 pm

Well, my last four days off I can't really remember, so it must have been good. :D No, actually I didn't really do that much, just pottered around. :)
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Postby rwhen » Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:35 pm

Sometimes, that is the best thing. My four days were very busy indeed. Thursday and part of Friday for Thanksgiving. On Friday, the brother makes a turkey soup and we all play some cards and some music.

Then on Saturday it was my nephew's birthday, so I was there until around noon, when the rest of them headed up to Seattle for an afternoon football game. I went home and stressed my muscles.

Sunday, I wanted to get on line, but could barely move, much less sit upright. Today is only marginally better. :roll:

Not sure what is for supper tonight. Must look in fridge to see what has the closest "cook me before I spoil" date. :D
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Postby rwhen » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:28 pm

Where is Rose?
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Postby Vanaladiel » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:35 pm

Rwhen!!!!! :clap: I have missed you so much darling sweet sister. You siggy area looks so festive and ready for the Holidays!!! :D :hug: 143

I hope you are having a good night tonight SSOTH! I had to work from 8 am to 5 pm today and again tomorrow. So I will try my best to be here for a bit on Wednesday so we can get caught up.

We had a good Thanksgiving. Ryan cooked a beef roast over an open camp fire. We had tons of fresh veggies to much on and mashed taters and a huge green salad. It was all very good. We were good and did not have a dessert. OH and I forgot the dinner rolls that I took too. The whole time was great fun and good food. :thumbsup:
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Postby RoseMorninStar » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:49 pm

Here I am. Better late than never. I had a day of sheer exhaustion. :P I hope you recuperate well rwhen.. and then maybe ease your way into some activity.

Roast beef over an open fire! Wow.. Where did Ryan cook that? It sure sounds tasty.

helonia.. my guy can make macaroni and cheese. From a box mix. :roll: :D Consider yourself very lucky!


As for Thanksgiving, other than the feast, my sister-in-law was an hour late. Again. We almost started eating without her. Now.. I am NOT a person who is that concerned with time, but I would think if I were going to be an hour late when someone invited me for dinner I would call. 15 minutes I expect.. a half an hour is stretching it.. but an hour?? Everyone else was waiting to eat.. everyone else had brought dishes that were getting cold &/or had been re-heated & were getting over-heated. :roll: What's up with that?
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Postby rwhen » Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:58 am

Vanadarlin' my SSOTH, sounds like you had a great feast!! Miss you too sweet one and I will look for you tomorrow. 143 :hug:

Rose, A person who is more concerned with themselves than others would do that. Sorry that happened, but other than that, I bet all the food was lovely and delish. :D Good to see you, I wondered where you went.

I am better today, still very sore, but nothing like yesterday at all. :D


Last night I had meatloaf with mashed taters and peas. It was good and I have leftovers. I love a cold meatloaf sammich.

Wonder where Erinhue is!!
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Postby IrisBrandybuck » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:20 am

Rose: you start without her, simple as that. If she complains, someone who is brave says, "We thought you weren't coming."

Yeah, my family neither. :)
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Postby Cock-Robin » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:55 am

Oooooo, meatloaf! I love it. Sometimes I go to Boston Market where they make the best meatloaf.
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Postby rwhen » Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:43 am

There is a Boston Market in Portland, but I haven't been. I have bought Boston Market frozen foods and they are pretty good though.

I make a meatloaf every couple of months, I think it brings back something about growing up, though my mother never made one herself, she said she hated them. In HomeEc I learned how to make one and she loved it, so we started to have them. That was 8th grade I think.
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Postby Erufailon.Atanvarno » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:01 am

Yea, where is Hue?....

And I'm not sure exactly what 'meatloaf' is, dunno if I've ever had it.


Okay, chocolate is food, so I'm going to ask here. For those count down calendars, do you eat #1 first, or #24?
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Postby RoseMorninStar » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:02 am

It's really funny about meatloaf in our house... when we haven't had one in awhile I'll make one.. and almost without fail my daughter will say, "You know what I'm hungry for? Meatloaf. We haven't had one in awhile." and I'll look at her & say.. "I've planned to make meatloaf for supper!"

We've got meatloaf ESP. *nods head* :D
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Postby rwhen » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:16 am

Okay Eru, I never had one of those, but if I had to guess, you eat #1 today and then one each day up until Christmas.

Meatloaf = ground beef, and everything but the kitchen sink, mixed together and put in a baking dish and baked until done. That is putting it basically. I use 1/3 each ground beef, veal and pork, with sauted onions, bell peppers and garlic, a fresh tomato chopped up, an egg or two, horseradish sauce, a bit of catsup, mustard, a bunch of dried herbs, oatmeal...dash of milk and water. Mix it up and then on the top I sprinkle Italian breadcrumbs and then make a pattern in the top and pour in tomato sauce. When it is done, I smother it with grated cheeses and put it under the broiler until it is melty.

But everyone makes it different. I love the stuff, especially when cold on a sammich.

Rose, meatloaf ESP. :lmbo: Good one. What's for supper tonight? Probably too early to know, I don't have a clue yet myself. :D
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Postby RoseMorninStar » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:30 am

Our meatloaf is similar.. ground meat(s), bread crumbs, onions, celery, lots of herbs, salt, pepper, tomato sauce.. etc.. made into a 'loaf' like a loaf of bread, baked with tomato sauce on top. When it's done, you cut it like a 'loaf' of bread. It's great with ketchup :D hot.. or when it's cold, sliced medium-thin & made into a sandwich. I don't care for it as a sandwich and would rather eat it plain, but Hubby loves them.


Does anyone have a good recipe for glazed nuts? Like Pecans or Almonds?

Eru.. you can do the count down (Advent) calendar any way you want.. but most people I think start with 1, as rwhen said. OR. some people just eat them all at once. :D There are some fancy Advent calendars that are made of wood .. or something more durable than thin cardboard, and they have little doors that open and a small toy/treat is behind the door.


For supper tonight I think I'm making hamburgers on the grill. It's glorious out.. ground round was on sale.. and I haven't made them in ages. And as an added bonus.. then I'll have leftover sammies to pack in Hubby's lunch and I won't have to figure out what kind of sandwich to make tomorrow! :D Win! Win!
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Postby Erufailon.Atanvarno » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:43 am

Oo, I see. So I guess it has a hard consistency when it's finished? Very interesting...

Well, I had number 24 first, I really wanted the chocolate and couldn't wait. But I guess now I am counting down the days until christmas. Excite!

Rose, sounds delicious. And it IS a beautiful day out here as well, bright blue skies. I bet it's cold though.
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Postby rwhen » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:49 am

Well it has a cooked consistency, like a hamburger, only in loaf form and larger. :D

Okay, so you started at the 24th, aren't they all chocolates? Like I said, I haven't had one of those before. :D
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Postby heliona » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:14 pm

No, no, you start at number one on December 1st and work up. :D At least, that's how it's done here. And don't the ones with chocolate in them have chocolate behind every door? I've only seen the ones with chocolate behind every door. And the last one or two (24th and 25th) tend to be bigger. :D

I haven't got an advent calendar this year. It's probably too late now. Oops!
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Postby RoseMorninStar » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:26 pm

It's never too late to get an advent calendar.. especially one with Chocolate! The ones here do not usually correspond to the church calendar.. they just start on Dec. 1st & work their way down. Or up, in the case of Eru! :D Usually you open the door that corresponds to the date.

I bought one for my daughter, but I see she forgot it here at home.. I will have to take it down when I next visit..and she will have to play catch-up!
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