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Postby RoseMorninStar » Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:44 pm

'A Stranger Among Us' hmm.. I don't know that film. I'll have to check it out. The only movie our Library had by that title was by 'Focus on the Family'.. I don't think that's it!
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Postby Vanaladiel » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:31 am

PCE??? What PCE?? I don't have PCE...................... well not much.

NO I do not.............

well maybe a little........................................

but then that is nothing compared to others.
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Postby Frelga » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:52 am

Hey, Swordsman, so have you decided to go? I've had non-Jewish friends for Shabbat at my house, including our own Rodia, and they have all survived unscathed. :P

A synagogue service, well, it depends on the synagogue. It will probably be a mixture of Hebrew and English, the proportion of which depends on the congregation. I would not hesitate to invite a non-Jew to a service if something fun was going on, but I would also be aware that this person would not be familiar with the songs and generally will be feeling like a tourist.

Is it THIS Friday? Because that's Sukkot, the festival of Booths, so the service may be held outside in a makeshift pavilion and additional prayers be offered.

A Shabbat dinner at home is really just a meal with some prayers thrown in. The family will start by lighting candles (yes, yes, like in the Fiddler :P) which you may or may not be invited to do. Some families, only the mother, or the women do it. They will bless the wine and the bread, and the Shabbat as the day of rest. Most blessings translate to "Blessed are you Lord our God" + either "who has created /whatever/" OR "who has commanded us to do /whatever/". If they go with the full program, the husband may sing Woman of Valor to his wife, and the parents will probably bless their children, or everyone will bless one everyone.

Advice... well, go as for any family dinner, and rely on your friend to explain things to you. Just play tourist and don't be afraid to ask what they are doing. If you go to the service, just stand up when everyone else does. ;) You may want to ask your friend if people dress up for services and if men are expected to cover their heads. Many temples will have a basket of kippot (skullcaps) that the bareheaded can borrow.

Enjoy the show. :)

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Postby Bardhwyn » Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:59 am

Yeah, I have one:

Why are you still awake???

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Postby Frelga » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:01 am

Waiting for laundry to finish. Which... it just did.
Please don't ask why I'm doing laundry at 2AM. :oops:
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Postby Bardhwyn » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:01 am

Ah, that was my second question.... never mind. :)
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Postby Rodia » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:04 am

Because she's talking to me.

I confirm, I've been to several Shabbat dinners at Frelga's, and although I felt like a total boob for not knowing what everyone was singing, I survived. The challach was yummy.
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Postby Frelga » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:24 am

Yeah, that's what I get for having friends in weird timezones. :P Discussions about religion at 2AM.

Off to bed now, I've got to get up pretty soon
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Postby IrisBrandybuck » Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:16 am

When my mom was doing articles on area churches we visited the synagogue in a local town and the couple who did the interview showed us all around and answered our questions and everything. They invited us to Passover too, but we didn't make it...I forget why. Sometimes at some churches the people were reluctant to tell us much or answer questions, but there were a few who just welcomed her/us with open arms. I'll never forget the priest who let us behind the iconoclast screen! :shock: Obviously his church was a bit different than most. :D

Frelga, I'm coming to your house for the next holiday. :D
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Postby rwhen » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:32 am

Frelga :nono: doing laundry at TWO AM!! Good gravy woman. Thank you for your excellent post on Shabbat. I would guess that every family is different, no? Meaning to the degree that they observe the "day"? I have a friend in Vegas who is Jewish and their family made it huge. About 30 people all gathered at one home (the oldest relative) and all this great food was made ahead of time and she described it as her favorite time of week.

I wonder what happened to her, this was a very long time ago now. 30 years. :oops:

Welcome Bardy on the PCE, I will add you to the list. Come on back and post on up. That is the game of the day here.

And Ro Ro, so it was YOU keeping up our Geli? WAY TA GO!! :D

Rose/CR, "A Stranger Among Us" It is a movie about a murder in the Jewish community and Melanie Griffith plays the female cop that goes undercover to try and find the murder. She is the stranger or maybe it is the murderer. :D See if you can find it, there is so much that you get to see and learn about the Jewish faith and traditions. Lovely.

CR. LOL. I will never accept my post count, I am like Vanadarlin'...I am in denial all the way around. And I like being there.

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Postby Cock-Robin » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:40 am

Good morning, everybody, and thank you, Frelga for that wonderful description of Shabbat. eek! Laundry at 2am. Well, that's cool, for some that's the only time they can do it. 8)

And I would have loved to be in on that Shabbat dinner in Las Vegas. Sounds like a feast. and something to discuss on the food thread, hehe.
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Postby oldtoby » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:52 am

Laundry at 2am. Well, that's cool, for some that's the only time they can do it.


I would've been locked out of my apartment one night but for some dude who was doing laundry at 2 AM
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Postby IrisBrandybuck » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:55 am

So you're saying that those who do laundry at 2 a.m. just might be the saviors of the world?

I can dig that.
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Postby oldtoby » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:08 am

Especially if they are drunk. :lol:
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Postby Frelga » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:00 am

Iris, I'll hold you to that.

Rwhen, of course you are right, when aren't you. :D Every family has their own ways. For many, blessing of children is a solemn rite. In my house, the tradition is, I have to catch Lufu first.
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Postby rwhen » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:07 am

Frelga,

LOL. Please see the FOODIES thread, a question is there for you. ;)

I can dig that too. And also what to do once you catch 'em. :D
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Postby Vanaladiel » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:10 am

I was posting with Frelga too last night but did conk out just before 2 am. :P I just couldn't sleep. Oh well! :roll: Nothing new there.

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Postby heliona » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:28 am

:hihi: all.

I don't really know that many Jewish people, but I have spent time in other cultures with different religions and have found that most people appreciate you wanting to know more about how/what they celebrate. Especially since they realise that you are wanting to know out of interest and that you are being respectful.

One moment sticks in my mind: my parents and I were in Rarotonga, which has a very strong Christian population, and we were invited to go to church one Sunday. Everyone wore their best dress, and the singing was magnificent: so joyful and happy. A lot of it is still old, traditional singing that has been incorporated into the Christian religion. They're a very happy people, the Rarotongans, and wanted to share that with us. :D

(More info about Rarotonga religion)
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Postby rwhen » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:47 am

I followed the linkie. Cook Islands? Polynesia? Sounds lovely and warm and tropical.

Makes me think of poor American Samoa. :( Over 100 died there yesterday/today. :(
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Postby Bardhwyn » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:55 am

It is sad, rwhen.

Hopefully lots of aid is already on its way. I think the US has learned much since Katrina.

And I am on a list?? :D Yay!

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Postby heliona » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:56 am

It was lovely and warm and tropical. :)

Yes, I heard some testimonies from islanders on the radio this morning. :( I thought of friends that I had made who are from Tonga (that was also affected by the tsunami). The islands I visited there are so low, one can imagine waves just sweeping completely over them.

As Tygs pointed out when she said they had had an evacuation warning, this tsunami has affected a large area. Also, a separate earthquake has affected Sumatra, in Indonesia. BBC News Report

I guess I was pretty lucky that the years I was there it was quiet on the Ring of Fire front.
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Postby rwhen » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:25 am

Good afternoon Bardy. You are in Cambridge? Do you ever get to make it to the Oxford moots? I am going to do my darnedest to be there next year, it would be lovely to meet you.

Yuppers, I put you on the list of PCEheads. We are hard to resist. :P

I heard on the news that President Obama is sending aid immediately. I just feel so for the families and the horrid rebuild that will come with this sort of quake and tsunami.

heliona, I also heard about that earthquake in Indonesia on the news this morning. Seems these things can come in threes.
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Postby rowanberry » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:33 am

Laundry at 2 AM? Sounds like Mr Rowan. :P

Yes, it's a tragedy what happened on Samoa. :(

But, I've noticed that after the 2004 disaster, tsunami warnings are given much easier. Better to prepare for the worst even if the case turns out to be not so serious, like for Tyg this time.

Bardy has made it to at least one Oxford moot, where I had the great pleasure to meet her. 8) Hope it won't be the last time.
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Postby rwhen » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:07 am

Indeed, Rowan. And you and I will meet then as well. You are still planning to come, right? After this mini-moot this past weekend, I am all up for mooting. You love it and don't want the good times to end, which they must do.

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Postby Erufailon.Atanvarno » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:18 am

Vana, there's only one person you could possibly have PCE of, and you're catching up. :D

Laundry at 2? Sounds normal, I don't know why everyone's freaking out. :P

Tsunami? I didn't hear anything, I should start watching the news more often.

Rodia, fancy seeing you here. How was the indian food?
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Postby rowanberry » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:22 am

Rwhen, I really wouldn't want to miss it next year, and even less would I want to miss you, so they better arrange it on some other weekend than July 10/11! That's the only one that I can't make.

But, if that should happen anyway, I'll try to arrange a trip to London while you're there before or after the moot.
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Postby Frelga » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:39 am

Bardhwyn wrote:Frelga - what happened? You're all siggie-less??


I am? I see my sig.

:( For the people affected nu the tsunami.
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Postby Cock-Robin » Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:57 am

:cry2: Yes, for all those affected by that tsunami. The reports are still coming in.
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Postby Cock-Robin » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:16 pm

AARRRRGH! It's now 2 PM, and I've got to get to my laundry, or it won't get done. I've got SO much to do, and no time to do it in.
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Postby rwhen » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:28 pm

CR, TORC has a way of doing that, doesn't it? :D Hard to break away. Hope you get all your "schtuff" done. Got your mail, all good.

Rowan, or Italy. :P :D Or I come to Finland. Some way we will figure it all out. That weekend is a bit early for me as well for Oxford. That is when I will be en route to Italy, I do believe. Of course nothing is hard set for me yet, but we are working closer that way.

Frelga, I see your siggie too. ;)

Eru, thanks for the mail. I replied, but post on up here and on the TVM, and sooner than later. :D
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