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Postby FrodoTook » Tue Jan 22, 2002 1:41 pm

Finrod_the_Faithful <BR><BR>Thanks so much for posting that link.<BR><BR>I thought that thread was hilarious <BR>the first time I read it.<BR><BR>I think it might be even more funny now.<BR><BR>Legolas the elf was cracking me up!!!<BR><BR>The whole thread is a classic with CC <BR>emceeing it and all the great members<BR>who posted in it.<BR><BR>Truely a "CLASSIC".<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>FT<BR><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Postby fatcatdave » Sat Jan 26, 2002 5:06 pm

Hey FT, Its great to see so many more great posts and threads in here, I haven't got time now as I'm trying to post Once in every forum to get my count up to 800, but I'll come back and read them All.<BR><BR><BR>Btw i ALWAYS wondered why the Balrog was called Henry
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Postby FrodoTook » Sat Jan 26, 2002 5:18 pm

Hey <b>FCD</b>!!!<BR><BR>Sobered up yet?<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>Glad you could make it here.<BR><BR>You will enjoy reading thru this thread.<BR><BR>There are some true <b>CLASSICS</b> here.<BR><BR>If you think of any memorable posts or threads <BR>that you have come across that you want to share <BR>with us (I am sure you have), please do so.<BR><BR>Enjoy!!!<BR><BR>FT<BR><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>ps: Posting a message in each forum. LOL <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR>I have to try that someday!!!<BR>Sounds like fun and you really get to see<BR>whats happening at TORC that way. <BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Postby mandos » Sun Jan 27, 2002 4:55 am

<b>bluicebank</b> has created a true classic that is my privilage to add here-<BR>======================================================================<BR><b><i>Sauron/Nine Secret Emails</i></b><BR><BR> <BR>bluicebank <BR>Citizen of Imladris<BR>Alliance: stewards of gondor <BR> <BR>Date Posted: Jan/27/2002 3:13 AM <BR> <BR> <BR>Secret Emails Between Sauron and the Nine<BR>(Details taken from both film and books).<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"Witch-king & Co.: great opportunity here! Interrogation of Gollum reveals One Ring is in Shire (see attached jpg map). Apparently held by hobbit with last name of Baggins. Hobbits are v. short and not known to carry weapons. Piece of orc cake for you guys. Ride forth; grab the Baggins AND the Ring. Time to earn your keep. End-of-year bonus could be big!"<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Oh Dark Lord, the magnificent. Can't find the Shire, so went to Saruman for directions. He said your map was not to scale. Shire turns out to be a verrry long way away. How come we're just learning this now? Expect delay in OneRing project. Respectfully, the Nine."<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"Tell me you didn't mention the Ring to Saruman! RE expected delay in project: I don't think so. Ride faster."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Great Master of Darkness, we did NOT tell Saruman about the Ring. Made up story about losing one of the nine rings while on vacation in those parts. Quite sure he bought it. Will do best to ride faster. Saruman great in Isengard chatroom, you should check it out."<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"Have hacked site of Isengard chatroom. Feel pleased. Let me know when you reach Shire."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Oh great Flaming Eye, stopped off at Bree for well deserved brewskies. Met kewl guy, Bill Ferny, who says Shire not far off. Also says Shire has 'killer weed,' so maybe hobbits will all be dead when we arrive ;-). Hope weed doesn't try to kill us. Looking forward to big bonus."<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"Get to the Shire, NOW! See attached artist's impression of Baggins."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Finally reached Shire. Hobbits still alive. No sign of lethal weed. One hobbit said Baggins and pals moved to suburb called Buckleberry, so we headed that way. Could have sworn we saw some hobbits matching description, but were scared off by elves. Could have sworn I felt power of the Ring. Ringwraith No.5 thinks he lost his ring in Bree. Do you have another one?"<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"No I don't have another one. Nine freaking rings for men, not ten! Tell No.5 to go back and find it. Better take three of you with him so he doesn't get lost himself! Sheesh."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Hobbits escaped us by going cross country. Hope rest of the Nine don't take too long looking for No.5's ring in Bree. Thought we would outsmart hobbits and cut them off. Thwarted by mushroom farmer because he had very mean dogs NOT ON LEASHES. Maybe dogs will eat hobbits and we'll just wait to dig through their poop for One Ring. We'll wash it good, so don't worry."<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"Witch-king & Co.: Your mid-year reviews are coming up and I can tell you that it's not looking good. Inability (or unwillingness) to throw down with farmer's dogs not impressive. Please show more initiative. Forget about dog-poop idea. Proceed to Buckleberry."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Almost got 'em, Boss, but they took the ferry and wouldn't send the boat back. Have to go long way around. BTW, Buckleberry and Brandywine River not on your map, so have to ask for directions a lot. Probably an oversight on your part. Detachment to Bree still hasn't returned. Think that WE should get good reviews and Ringwraiths in Bree should be punished, because I'll bet you they are drinking lots of brewskies while we do all the hard work. Hugs."<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"(Sigh). I've freed Gollum in the unlikely, but not impossible, case that you cannot fulfill your mission. He seems very dedicated to finding the Ring. Consider this as competition for the year-end bonus."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Found 'em, Boss. Or at least we thought we found them. Busted up their hiding place real good, but they escaped into Old Forest, which is very scary. We would have gone in after them, but locals sounded incredible fire alarm. Took a vote and decided to head to Bree, wait for hobbits."<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"You took a vote?! (Sigh). Fine, whatever."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Now in Bree, but rest of Ringwraiths not here. Barkeep wants us to pay their tab. Pal Bill Ferny said homeys are retracing their steps to see if No.5's ring fell off on way from Isengard. Rented great room with view. Expense request enclosed."<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"2,000 farthings for 'Dwarf massage'?"<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Hobbits in the building! One Ring confirmed, as hobbit called Underhill disappeared in bar. Guess you were wrong about the name Baggins. Attack on their room planned for midnight! Wish us luck."<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"Good going, team. FYI: 'Underhill' probably an alias."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Got 'em, Boss. Or, well, we thought we did. Entered room where they were staying and saw four beds with what seemed like hobbits sleeping. You should have seen us tear into them! For 30 minutes of what can only be described as a very impressive Ringwraith melee, we slashed and hacked and completely trashed the hobbits' room. But we were tricked, because the figures were only wooden bolsters underneath the covers. So me and the boys went to the rest of the hobbit suites and, let me tell you, ain't no hobbits going to lodging at the inn for quite a long time."<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"RE: Attempt to kill hobbits at Bree.<BR>I understand your explanation that hobbits were not in room they rented. Am not mollified by your apparent pride in spending half an hour smashing bolsters and generally trashing that part of the inn. You nitwits!<BR>Now listen to me carefully: Scare off all horses and ponies in Bree, then watch for hobbits to flee on foot. Should be a no-brainer, even for you. Any word on rest of the Nine?"<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Horses scattered like you said, Boss, except for Bill's pony, which is nearly dead anyway. Off to find rest of the Nine. Wish us luck."<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"I said watch the road, you twits, not search for the other Nazgul!"<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Right you are, Boss. We five are plenty for the job. I guess we'll get the others' bonuses, ha ha. Anyway, turns out the hobbits have joined forces with a Ranger, named Strider. Job suddenly got harder. They also bought Ted's pony. Ted got hit with apple from one of the hobbits, but lived. He said they went cross-country, which means we'll just have to hope they rejoin the road up ahead. Thoughts?"<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"Thoughts? Yes, try following them. On second thought, we wouldn't want you to get lost in the wild, would we? I mean, what is the deal with you guys? Instead, proceed to Weathertop ... yes, it's on the map and wait for them. Don't screw it up this time!"<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Went to Weathertop, like you said, Boss. You didn't say a wizard lives there! It was Gandalf, the one you loathe. You would be so proud of us. All five of us ragged on him until he started flashing fire from his magic wand, or whatever that thing is. Boss, you're going to love this: We all rushed him and he ran like a frightened rabbit. Am now in pursuit! Wish us luck."<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"No, you idiots! It's a diversion. Get back to Weathertop and wait for hobbits."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Returned to Weathertop, like you said, Boss. But hobbits and Ranger already there. Attack planned for midnight, even though still missing four homeys. Go us!"<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"Yeah, go you. This is a results-oriented project, boys. Just bring It back. That's all I'm asking. No hostages, nothing. Let them all live for all I care. Good luck. There, I said it."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"We're really on track with the project, Boss! Raided Weathertop camp. We had 'em. Check this out: No.2 stabbed the one carrying the Ring! Unfortunately, the hobbit had Swiss army knife and stabbed No.2 in left big toe. Didn't you say they were unarmed? We have to communicate more. Then Ranger started setting us on fire. Most of us able to roll on ground and save most of multi-layered robes, but I'm afraid No.6 and No. 8 are completely naked. Believe hobbits and Ranger escaped. No.9 says he lost his ring at Weathertop. Now I know what you're thinking, but you would be wrong. We're ALL going back to find his ring. Thanks for wishing us luck, because it sure worked! (Group hug).<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"Oh venerated mother of Morgoth! Why? What have I done to deserve this? Tell me, please.<BR>OK, the Ringbearer Thief has been stabbed. That's good. Think positive thoughts.<BR>Now, Witch-king, I want you to forget about No.9's ring. Go after the Hobbits, NOW. They're bound for Rivendale for sure."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Oops, already went to Weathertop (had problems getting email today, think you should check the modem bank, or server, or something). Good news. The rest of the Nine showed up. Turns out No.5 had his ring in one of the folds of his cloak all this time. I guess he's getting a bad review, right? Also found No.9's ring, even though you don't seem to care about it. Didn't tell No.9 you have adopted that position. Hope you care about my ring, still. :-)<BR>Now going after hobbits with full speed. "Ringbearer Thief" (is this his REAL name?) should be catatonic by now from No.2's successful attack. No.2 wants to know if he gets extra bonus, and isn't sure he signed up for Mordor's HMO on re-enrollment week. His big toe is really looking bad. Thoughts?"<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"No.1, oh dear Witch-king. Apparently I have failed as a manager to sufficiently convey the importance of the OneRing project. To wit: Your sole purpose is to find the One Ring. Then lay your hands upon it. Do not put it on! Keep it safe on your journey back to Mordor. Then give it to me. That's it. All the personnel concerns you have mentioned will be taken care of, as long as you bring It back. Got that? Comprende? Dost thou fathom?"<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"You're right as always, Boss. The One Ring. Got ya loud and clear.<BR>Uh, OK, sorry it's been a week since last email. We like nearly had him at the Ford, Rivendale. I mean, we were really, really close. Even though we had to mess with an elvish warrior and chase after an incredibly fast horse carrying Ringbearer, we were on it. Dude, there was this flood you wouldn't imagine, with scary horse things, and our own horses just freaked, so you'll have to blame the horses, which drowned. Since none of us can swim, and the flood was so terrible, all of us are now buck naked, although I still have my crown. No one lost their ring, which is a plus, right?"<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"(Sigh). This is not happening. Feared Nazgul in a pig's eye!<BR>You have new orders: Get your butts back to the office. No, wait, you'll just get lost on the way. I'm sending my nine foul beasts of the air to fetch you."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Flying first class, Boss! This is way better than riding horses. Thanks for the gesture. We'll be able to get that Ring on Air Mordor, if you would just give us another chance. Please?"<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"After lengthy consideration, have decided against my better judgement to send the Nine out again to find the Ring. Yes, you will be flying Air Mordor this time. Make sure the beasts eat some grass for roughage, damnit."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Back in first class, Boss. Thanks for the reprieve!"<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"Hobbits reported in Moria. Company now numbering nine. How quaint. Balrog will get them. Then orcs will bring out Ring. Watch the eastern exit."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Moria not on map, much less east exit. Asked elves in Lothlorien for directions, but no help there. Took a vote and will watch Anduin River near Rauros. Wish us luck!"<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"You're going to need it."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Good news, Boss! Found the crew (there's eight, not nine like you said). Unfortunately, No.3's beast was shot down by an elf, so expect him to show up all bedraggled at Black Gate. He lost his key, so you'll have to let him in. No.2 hasn't been feeding his beast any grass, and its poop is just horrible! Also, looks like your orcs joined up with Saruman's brood. They captured two of the hobbits after killing man of Gondor. Go orcs. Seems they are heading toward Isengard, not Mordor. Suggest you contact them and send reliable map! Lost sight of remaining hobbits. But rest of company chasing after said orcs, which means that's where the Ring must be. Regards."<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"Isengard?! No. Nooo!!! All of you return the headquarters immediately! Witch-king, you head toward Isengard and intercept orcs."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Boss, went to Isengard like you said, but had to make sure beast got enough grass, so unable to overtake orcs. Someone really trashed Isengard. Don't think Saruman got the Ring, because otherwise he would have kept his place from getting hosed, right? Anyway, it looks like Rohan won their battle with Saruman the White, who is actually sporting more a tie-dye look these days."<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"Mercy! I'll have to wage war to get this Ring back. You, Witch-king, go out and attack anyone who looks like they might be wielding One Ring. I'm thinking King of Rohan, since last time I checked he was Saruman's cabana boy."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Oh, hi Boss. It's No.2. Bit of bad news. A girl beheaded witch-king’s beast. Good news is King of Rohan's horse killed him. Unlikely he had Ring, like you said. But real bad news is Witch-king was stabbed in knee by a hobbit, and then killed by the girl. I thought we couldn't die, because of the rings you gave us. Is there something I should know? Oh yeah, you lost the battle of Pelennor (probably just to fake 'em out, I'll bet). Anyway, I guess this makes me No.1, right?"<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"(Sigh). Sure, you can be No.1, if it makes you happy. Would you all just circle the skies around Mordor, like at a really high altitude so you can't be shot down? That would be just peachy. You Eight can do that, can't you?"<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Did what you said, Boss, flying high. Seems like 7,000 of the enemy are marching toward the home office. Better back up the database, right?"<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"Finally some good news. The captains of the West are pushing their luck. One of them probably has the Ring, but hasn't mastered it. Circle above the Black Gate."<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Great news, Boss! Battle going great. They are completely surrounded. You're a genius."<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"Fools! The One Ring!! It's at Mount Doom! Fly, fly I tell thee! Fly to Mount Doom and grab the Ring before it's too late!"<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Mount Doom? That's a volcano. Isn't it pretty hot there?"<BR><BR>Sauron@Mordor.net:<BR>"Go to Mount Doom immediately! The Ring, get the Ring! Do it!"<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"OK, Boss, will do. Is the Ring INSIDE the volcano, or just near it? Well, I suppose we'll find out when we get there. Wish us luck!"<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Boss, are you there? The volcano is erupting something fierce. No can find Ring. Can't even sense its presence. Are you sure it's at Mount Doom?"<BR><BR>Ringwraiths@Mordor.net:<BR>"Hey Boss, did you know that Mordor is crumbling? Boss?"<BR> <BR> <BR>
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Postby FrodoTook » Sun Jan 27, 2002 5:54 am

<b>mandos</b><BR><BR>Your submission ( <b>bluicebanks "Sauron/Nine Secret Emails"</b> )<BR>was GREAT. I just read the whole thing and got a lot of laughs<BR>out of it. The great thing is that all of it is completely true <BR>to the text. <BR><BR>I imagined Sauron sitting at his PC finding it hard to believe<BR>what he was seeing on his monitor then typing back a message.<BR>LOL<BR><BR>Like this one (one of my favs from your submission)<BR><BR><BR> <i>Am not mollified by your apparent pride in spending half an hour smashing bolsters and generally trashing that part of the inn. You nitwits!</i><BR><BR>There were so many great lines in it!!!<BR><BR>Thanks again,<BR>FT<BR><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR>
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Postby bluicebank » Mon Jan 28, 2002 12:48 am

Glad some like the Email post. Just had to give back to the group for all the great posts (esp. Diaries).<BR>
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Postby FrodoTook » Mon Jan 28, 2002 10:26 am

bluicebank<BR><BR>Thanks so much for dropping by!!!<BR><BR>I really enjoyed your "Sauron/Nine Secret Emails".<BR><BR>It is nice to be able to tell you so.<BR><BR>I thank you for posting it in the first place.<BR>It is very intertaining and creative.<BR>I got much enjoyment from reading it!!!<BR><BR>Cheers to you!!!<BR><BR>FT<BR><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Harvestar » Mon Jan 28, 2002 2:08 pm

bluicebank, ROTFLMCO!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>That was wonderful!!! <BR><BR><BR>I liked the Hugs and (Group Hug) at the end of some of them. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby bluicebank » Tue Jan 29, 2002 5:21 am

Mandos:<BR><BR>I corrected MAJOR error in orginal post. It's Bill Ferny, not Ted Sandyman. Can you correct your post of my original? Thanks.<BR>
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Postby Denethor » Sat Feb 02, 2002 1:44 am

Here's the collected masterpieces of Hama (volume 1):<BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=11668">http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=11668</a><BR><BR>And volume 2:<BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=11734">http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=11734</a><BR><BR>And volume 3:<BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=11804">http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=11804</a><BR><BR>And volume 4:<BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=11877">http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=11877</a><BR><BR>And here's a collection of some of Whistler's masterpieces:<BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=11581">http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=11581</a><BR><BR>And yet another one by Hama:<BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=17668">http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=17668</a>
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Postby mandos » Mon Feb 04, 2002 12:33 pm

A beautiful work, by <b>eliana</b><BR>entitled <b>veterans</b><BR><BR>Some veterans bear visible signs of their service: a missing limb, a<BR>jagged <BR>scar, a certain look in the eye. Others may carry the evidence inside<BR>them: <BR>a pin holding a bone together, a piece of shrapnel in the leg--or<BR>perhaps <BR>another sort of inner steel: the soul's ally forged in the refinery of <BR>adversity. Except in parades, however, the men and women who have kept <BR>America safe wear no badge or emblem. You can't tell a vet just by<BR>looking.<BR><BR>What is a vet?<BR><BR>He is the cop on the beat who spent six months in Saudi Arabia sweating<BR>two <BR>gallons a day making sure the armored personnel carriers didn't run out<BR>of <BR>fuel.<BR><BR>He is the barroom loudmouth, dumber than five wooden planks, whose <BR>overgrown frat-boy behavior is outweighed a hundred times in the cosmic <BR>scales by four hours of exquisite bravery near the 38th parallel.<BR><BR>She--or he--is the nurse who fought against futility and went to sleep <BR>sobbing every night for two solid years in Da Nang.<BR><BR>He is the POW who went away one person and came back another--or didn't <BR>come back at all.<BR><BR>He is the Quantico drill instructor that has never seen combat--but has <BR>saved countless lives by turning slouchy, no-account rednecks and gang <BR>members into Marines, and teaching them to watch each other's backs.<BR><BR>He is the parade-riding Legionnaire who pins on his ribbons and medals<BR>with <BR>a prosthetic hand.<BR><BR>He is the career quartermaster who watches the ribbons and medals pass<BR>him by.<BR><BR>He is the three anonymous heroes in The Tomb Of The Unknowns, whose <BR>presence at the Arlington National Cemetery must forever preserve the <BR>memory of all the anonymous heroes whose valor die unrecognized with<BR>them <BR>on the battlefield or in the ocean's sunless deep.<BR><BR>He is the old guy bagging groceries at the supermarket--palsied now and <BR>aggravatingly slow--who helped liberate a Nazi death camp and who wishes<BR><BR>all day long that his wife were still alive to hold him when the<BR>nightmares <BR>come.<BR><BR>He is an ordinary and yet an extraordinary human being, a person who <BR>offered some of his life's most vital years in the service of his<BR>country, <BR>and who sacrificed his ambitions so others would not have to sacrifice<BR>theirs.<BR><BR>He is a soldier and a savior and a sword against the darkness, and he is<BR><BR>nothing more than the finest, greatest testimony on behalf of the<BR>finest, <BR>greatest nation ever known.<BR><BR>So remember, each time you see someone who has served our country, just <BR>lean over and say, "Thank you." That's all most people need, and in most<BR><BR>cases, it will mean more than any medals they could have been awarded or<BR><BR>were awarded.<BR><BR>Two little words that mean a lot: "THANK YOU."<BR><BR>It is the soldier,<BR>not the reporter,<BR>Who has given us freedom of the press.<BR><BR>It is the soldier,<BR>not the poet,<BR>Who has given us freedom of speech.<BR><BR>It is the soldier,<BR>not the campus organizer,<BR>Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate.<BR><BR>It is the soldier,<BR>Who salutes the flag,<BR>Who serves beneath the flag,<BR>and whose coffin is draped by the flag,<BR>Who allows the protester to burn the flag.
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Postby FrodoTook » Mon Feb 18, 2002 9:48 am

Originally posted by <b>wilko185</b> <BR>Date Posted: Feb/18/2002 8:23 AM<BR><BR>A most moving quote from a LOTR fan in this online discussion, about Tolkien's poetry. (Off-topic perhaps, but it relates to how to "read" Tolkien's verse):<BR><BR><a target=new href="http://discuss.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/zforum/01/ring111201.htm">http://discuss.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/zforum/01/ring111201.htm</a><BR><BR>Eagle River, Alaska: <BR><BR>About Tolkien's "bad" poetry: The Lord of The Rings has fascinated me for many years. I've read the series more than a dozen times, but, like most people, I relished the prose and endured the poetry. Then, about twelve years ago, I gained a fresh insight. While dutifully struggling through a poetic passage, my then wife, looking over my shoulder, began to sing the very verse I was reading. My annoyance at the interruption to my concentration quickly changed to wonder as I listened and experienced the poetry in song. Her ethereal (almost elvish) voice and melody unlocked the passage in a way nearly magical. When she finished, I asked her to sing it again -- and again was entranced by visions of the Riverdauther, Goldberry, dancing in the starlight among the lilies by the river's edge. I then asked her to sing other passages and the result was the same. Astonishingly, she had never before read Tolkien or even the very passages she sang, and the melody was not borrowed, but spontaneously created from the flow she perceived in the language. I surmised that the poetry was meant to be sung, not contemplatively read in silence. I concluded that the deficiency in Tolkien's poetry was in the reader. Now, I consider the poetry more beautiful than the prose by far. Sadly, I cannot hear the magical melodies myself and the one who sang them for me is gone.<BR><BR><BR>-----------------------------<BR><BR>Enlightening and well written.<BR>That last line really gets to me.<BR><BR><BR> <BR>
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Postby Parador~J » Mon Feb 18, 2002 11:18 am

FT...Thank-you...that one got to my heart...and touched it deeply...<BR><BR>He did say it well...the music is the key to Tolkiens prose....but then, Tolkien's prose has always moved me...<BR><BR>Thank-you so much FT for helping me keep up with this wonderful thread....I greatly appreciate it..<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>and too all of the TORCers that have posted their heart warming and delightful memoirs...for all to share...<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>
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Postby Denethor » Tue Feb 19, 2002 8:13 pm

Posted by: Barad_Nimras<BR>Date: 12th August 2000<BR><BR>The following information is compiled from an interview with Dr. Aaron Gorman, Tolkien's little-known psychoanalyst.<BR>Tolkien always idolised A.A. Milne and had a life-long desire to belong to the 100 Acre Wood. His first Middle Earth book, the Hobbit, has Bilbo Baggins asTolkien's Winnie-the-Pooh substitute, while Eeyore,the messiah figure in AA Milne's work (he saves Winnie from drowning by dangling his tail in the water)is transformed into Gandalf. The 100 Acre wood is renamed Greenwood but Bilbo does not live there; this represents Tolkien's own sense of inferiority, a faintly expressed feeling that he could never be as good as AA Milne. Bilbo's journey to the Greenwood reflects Tolkien's 100-acre-wood longing but the traumatic events Bilbo experiences there reveal Tolkien's growing subconcious awareness that the 100-acre-wood does not want him. Writting LOTR was Tolkien's attempt to exorcise from his life the demons unleashed by writting The Hobbit and to deal with his unresolved 100-acre-wood issues. It is notable that in LOTR the Greenwood has become Mirkwood, a dark and unwelcoming place representing Tolkien's own dark struggles with 100-acre-wood alienation. Tolkien exiles Bilbo from the Shire for his failure to make Tolkien at home in the 100-acre-wood and creates a new Winnie-the-Pooh substitute in Frodo. He creates a clumsy device for imitating the friendship of Winnie the Pooh, Eeyore, Kanga, Christopher Robin, etc with the Fellowship of the Ring. Tolkien's ring fixation leads him to imbue the fellowship with dark and self-destructive qualities. Tolkien's envy of AA Milne (he named his own son Christopher re. Milne's Christopher Robin) turned into fear that Milne, personified by Gollum, would steal success from Tolkien. Tolkien felt threatened but did not allow himself to bite the hand that feeds - he resolves this conflict by leaving the biting to Gollum. Tolkien's pooh-stick envy comes to the fore again and again everytime the Fellowship of the Ring approach water: The nine Ringwraiths are turned into pooh-sticks in the river at Rivendell while Tolkien himself becomes the pooh-stick the followship ride upon down the river Anduin. While the Greenwood trauma of the Hobbit puts Mirkwood off-limits to the LOTR fellowship tolkien still attempts to revisit the 100-acre-wood on 3 occassions; first Tom Bombadil's forest, then the forest of Lothlorien but these pilgramages into 100-acre-wood substitutes raise issues that not even the mirror of Galadriel can help with. It is at Tolkien's 3rd foray into forest at Rohan when Tolkien's growing dissillusionment with 100-acre-wood ideals explode into violence. Tolkien's 100-acre-wood anger is transfered to the Ent trees who go on a killing spree. This is one of many psychologically disturbing aspects of Tolkien's literary outburst. Tolkien kills off his characters at random, blaming the power of the unseen Sauron, the personification of Tolkien's own shadow-self, however he knows when he has gone too far when he has killed off his Eeyore substitute, Gandalf, so Gandalf is revived. the psychological help Tolkien received from the late Dr. Aaron Gorman is shown by the fact that he does not kill off the character based on the late doctor, Aragorn; he actually crowns Aragorn as king. However the Fellowship of the 100-Acre-Wood is destroyed and Winnie and Eeyore (Frodo and Gandalf) are kicked out of Middle-Earth forever by putting them on an Elven boat. The doctor reported that Tolkien felt much better after writting LOTR.
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Postby FrodoTook » Tue Feb 19, 2002 10:55 pm

How discourtesy can affect someone...<BR><BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=24&threadid=2501">http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=24&threadid=2501</a>
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Postby Snowdog » Wed Feb 20, 2002 2:47 pm

Alot of good stuff here. I have to submit this thread, for it was the first one posted to the new messageboard. I will set the scene...<BR><BR>A well established message board with approximatly 1400-1500 people registered is moving along pretty well. Its the night of May 19, 2000 and all is well. At the time, there were times when nobody was logged in, and Jon & Ted waited until late night/early morning TORC time to bring online the new board. <BR><BR>Up late this night was a man who had many drinks, and decides to log into The One Ring, and what does he see? An empty board....<BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=1">http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=29&threadid=1</a><BR><BR><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Legolas, this is classic!<BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><i>As for the thread below, I remember it, and also the continuation of it on the darkboard. There was alot of off-board politics that went on, and many people got hurt.</i>
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Postby Denethor » Tue Mar 05, 2002 8:13 pm

The following thread deserves an honourary mention as probably the longest serious thread in TORC history (it is also one of the oldest continous threads, having remained active since December 2000)...<BR><BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=27&threadid=8335">http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=27&threadid=8335</a>
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Postby bluicebank » Tue Mar 05, 2002 9:01 pm

Bump. I thought this thread was lost after the reshuffling. I hardly feel qualified to have been posted here.<BR><BR>FrodoTook's post sent me back to the days. What a wonderful muse.<BR>
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Postby FrodoTook » Sat Mar 09, 2002 12:23 pm

Angafiniel submitted the following..<BR><BR><i>I don't know what's the right way to submit to "TORCs all time best posts / threads...A Collection" thread. Plus I don't know who's the author, I just know that it was someone's signature (maybe it was yours... ) around Oct-Nov 2001. I found it hysterical - still do - and I saved it. Any way here it is:</i><BR><BR>Three drinks for the Burger Kings under the sky,<BR><BR>Seven burger purchases earns a Frodo clone,<BR><BR>Ninety million consumers doomed to buy,<BR><BR>One buck for the Dark Lord, yours to own<BR><BR>In the land of fast food where the Whoppers lie.<BR><BR>Burger King to rule them all, Burger King to dine them<BR><BR>Burger King to bring them all and in the wallet mine them<BR><BR>In the land of fast food where the Whoppers lie.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Saludos,<BR><BR>Angafiniel <BR>Lady of the Southern Lands<BR><BR>--------------------------------------<BR><BR>I am not sure who had the above in their signature.<BR><BR>Can anyone help out and let us know who had this<BR>classic in their sig?<BR><BR>Update: The above parody was in <b>TolkienLovers</b> sig.<BR>See the post following this one.<BR><BR>FT<BR><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Denethor » Sat Mar 09, 2002 5:55 pm

FrodoTook: That particular parody was in TolkienLover's signature.
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Postby FrodoTook » Sun Mar 10, 2002 5:03 am

Thank you Denethor.<BR><BR>I have updated the post.<BR><BR>FT<BR><img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Novice » Tue Mar 12, 2002 8:51 pm

bump! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR>
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Postby bluicebank » Wed Mar 27, 2002 9:21 pm

I would like to bump this post.<BR><BR>I hope others will contribute, not just mine, but other worthy candidates. Carry on.<BR>
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Postby Snowdog » Thu Apr 11, 2002 8:51 pm

<i>And this person tells me she cant do RP... yeah right! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-rolleyes.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR>This is from a thread titled: <b>The Court of Romance- In Search of Elian's King</b><BR><BR>Elian entered the Hall, a sad expression on her face. She was Queen of Flirts, yet had no one to flirt with. (well, she did flirt with ILvEowyn when Undomiel wasn't looking...)<BR><BR>Undomiel approached Elian with a smile on her face.<BR><BR><i>"Smile and be happy, Elian, for tonight all the Knights will come and you may decide who is worthy to become your King."</i><BR><BR>At this, a wicked smile spread across Elian's face, as she thought of a whole room full of brave and handsome knights who were all hers to flirt with.<BR><BR><i>"If you will excuse me, my lady," she said to Undomiel, "I need to check on our supply of ice..."</i><BR><BR>Elian wandered out of the Hall, her mind swimming with delightfully evil thoughts.
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Postby Snowdog » Mon Apr 15, 2002 11:55 am

In continuing in presenting some great Role Playing by <b>Elian_Ranal</b>, here is a nice exchange by her and LiMuBai in a thread called <a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=25&threadid=26569">Fantasy Island</a>:<BR><BR><b>LiMuBai</b> <BR><i>Date Posted: Oct/08/2001 10:37 PM</i><BR><BR>the stage is set, the lounge was all packed with Fantasy Island's guests ...<BR><BR>Mr Roarke: Ladies and Gentlemen, may i present to you a special guest of mine. He's been touring the Asian circuit for the past two years and he has graciously accepted my request that he perform here for you all. may i introduce you to the 'Voice of the East', Mr. Peter Wong!<BR><BR>*applause*<BR><BR>Peter: Thank you Mr. Roarke! I'm glad that i've been given an invitation to your wonderful island. i hope that i would do you justice with this small performance ... maestro?<BR><BR>*after 3 songs, Peter notices Adrienne enter taking the seat reserved for her at the table nearest the stage*<BR><BR>Peter: for this next song of mine, i wish to dedicate this to a new found friend ... *nods to Adrienee with a smile*<BR><BR><BR><BR>... so let the pain remain forever in my heart<BR>for every throb it brings means one more moment spent with you<BR>i'll let the pain bring on the rain<BR>if that's the only way<BR>if there's no other way<BR>to be with you ...<BR>... again<BR>---<BR><BR><b>Elian_Ranal</b><BR><i>Date Posted: Oct/08/2001 10:56 PM</i><BR><BR>Adrienne tried to slide into her seat unnoticed, but she could not escape the eyes of the man on stage. When he dedicated a song to her, she quickly blushed and looked down at the table, feeling unworthy of such attention. but she soon found herself swept up in the romantic lyrics, wondering as she watched him sing if he had meant this song as much more than a simple sign of friendship...<BR>~~~~~~~~~~~<BR><BR><b>LiMuBai</b><BR><i>Date Posted: Oct/08/2001 11:03 PM</i><BR><BR>Peter: Ladies and Gentlemen, with that, i do believe i've myself a brief respite. i'll be back in about 15 minutes ...<BR><BR>*applause*<BR><BR>Peter joins Adrienne at her table ...<BR><BR>Peter:I'm glad you could make it! And you look lovely tonight!<BR>~~~~~~~~~~<BR><BR><b>Elian_Ranal</b><BR><i>Date Posted: Oct/08/2001 11:10 PM</i><BR><BR>Adrienne blushes again, finding herself unexpectedly nervous. <BR>"Thank you...you sound wonderful tonight. I especially enjoyed that last song...such emotional lyrics," she said, nervously running her fingers around the rim of her wineglass, hardly daring to look up and meet his eyes.<BR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR><BR><b>LiMuBai</b><BR><i>Date Posted: Oct/08/2001 11:21 PM</i><BR><BR>is there something bothering you tonight? thinking of someone? i'm sorry if the song stirred up unwanted memories ...<BR>----------------<BR><BR>Unfortunatly it was not continued, but it proves the lady <b><u>CAN</u></b> role play! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Denethor » Wed Apr 17, 2002 8:10 pm

Apparently the following is TORC's 1000000th post...<BR><BR>--------<BR>Posted by Istariquendi<BR>Date Posted: Apr/15/2002 4:44 PM<BR><BR>Istari gasped as the arrow pierced near his shoulder. He staggered, trying to regain his balance, yet he had not anticipated the attack of the Nazgul. The mace fell heavily on his head and it swam with colours dancing before his eyes. He tried desperately to regain control and fight against Khamul, yet it was in vain. He fell, and as he hit the ground, darkness began to gather about his eyes. Dimly, he felt the warm blood flow down his chin. The darkness deepened, and he saw two dim forms, one the Nazgul, the other the wounded Neithian. Istari was useless on the ground, struggling with conciousness, maybe even life. The man could not face the Nazgul alone! Not with those grievious wounds! Suddenly, as memory faded from the elf, Istari remembered his Rings. They could aid the man where he could not. <BR><BR>Silently, his voice barely able to speak above a whisper, he spoke words of power. As he did so, the Rings upon his fingers began to glow, faintly at first, but they grew in power as the words escaped his lips. Suddenly, their light began to waver as the dark began to overtake him. Yet, his will drove him on, and finally he spoke the last word with a surprisingly loud cry that seemed to shatter the hall about. The Rings flashed in a blaze of Silver-golden light and then were gone from his own hands. Dimly, Istari saw the globes appear upon the man's hands as he gripped the hilt of his own sword, soon the sword itself was lined with silver flame that mixed with golden fire.<BR><BR>"Use them... well... my friend." And his eyes closed, and the darkness overtook him. His last thought before he descended into the blackness was whether he would ever wake up again.
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Postby Denethor » Sat May 04, 2002 8:20 pm

Posted by: Iavas_Saar <BR>Date Posted: Apr/23/2002 6:25 PM<BR> <BR>OK, I know some of you will have seen this on Leo's board, but I realised some who don't go there would not have seen it, so I'm posting it here too. <BR><BR>Leonides*: Strangers from distant boards, friends of old. You have been summoned here to answer the threat of Newbies. Tolkien-Fandom stands upon the brink of destruction. None can escape it. You will unite or you will fall. Each true fan is bound to this fate, this one doom. Bring forth the head swooner, Diamond of Long Cleeve.<BR><BR>[Diamond brings forth ^^OrLiEs-NuMbEr-OnE-FaN-2002^^]<BR><BR>[Forumers start whispering] <BR><BR>Bernd: So it is true... <BR><BR>Someone whispers: The Doom of TORC <BR><BR>Bernd: She is a gift. A gift to the foes of newbies! Why not use this swooner? Long has my father, the head of TORC, kept the forces of Ringbearer.org at bay. By the programming skills of our people are your forums kept safe! Give TORC the head swooner of the newbies. Let us use her against them!<BR><BR>NiennaSorrowing: You cannot reason with her! None of us can! The head swooner answers to Orlando alone. She has no other master.<BR><BR>Bernd: And what would a purist know of this matter? <BR><BR>finarfin: This is no mere purist. She is Nienna, sister-daughter of... I forget... but anyway, you owe her your allegience. <BR><BR>Bernd: Nienna? This... is Wildwoods heir? <BR><BR>finarfin: And heir to the throne of the Movies forum. <BR><BR>NiennaSorrowing: Havo dad narfy [Sit down finarfin] <BR><BR>Bernd: Movies has no queen. Movies needs no queen. <BR><BR>Telemachos: Nienna is right. We cannot control the head swooner. <BR><BR>Leonides*: You have only one choice. The head swooner must be banned.<BR><BR>Mr.bunny: Then what are we waiting for?? RARGH!!!!!!<BR><BR>[Diamond sees Orlandos Eye and feels a sudden pain] <BR>[^^OrLiEs-NuMbEr-OnE-FaN-2002^^ continues to post new threads]<BR><BR>Leonides*: The head swooner cannot be banned, bunny, son of another bunny, by any amount of sarcasm that we here possess. ^^OrLiEs-NuMbEr-OnE-FaN-2002^^ was created in the horrors of teenage pop culture. Only there can she be taught to grow up. She must be taken deep into Ringebearer.org, and cast back into the swooning thread from whence she came. <BR><BR>^^OrLiEs-NuMbEr-OnE-FaN-2002^^: Or-land-gimba-doo, Or-land-gimba-doo<BR><BR>Leonides*: One of you must do this.<BR><BR>[Deathly silence]<BR><BR>Bernd: One does not simply login to Ringbearer.org. Its main page is guarded by more than just passwords. There are cookies there you cannot delete. And the great Locksley is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with swooning and gushing and newbies. The very colour scheme they use is a swooners delight. Not with ten thousand purists could you do this. It is folly.<BR><BR>finarfin: Have you heard nothing Lord Leonides* has said? The head swooner must be banned!<BR><BR>Mr.bunny: And I suppose you think you're the one to do it?!<BR><BR>Bernd: And if we fail, what then, what happens when Orlando appears in the next film? <BR><BR>Mr.bunny: I will be dead before I see the head swooner in the hands of a pragmatist!!<BR><BR>[Arguments start among them] <BR><BR>Mr.bunny: Never trust a pragmatist! <BR><BR>Telemachos: Do you not realise that while we bicker amongst ourselves, Orlandos power grows?! None shall escape it!<BR><BR>^^OrLiEs-NuMbEr-OnE-FaN-2002^^: Or-land-gimba-doo, Or-land-gimba-doo, OR-LAND-GIMBA-DOO, OR-LAND-GIMBA-DOO<BR><BR>[^^OrLiEs-NuMbEr-OnE-FaN-2002^^ faints]<BR><BR>Diamond of Long Cleeve: I will take her! ... I will take her! <BR><BR>[Telemachos is visibly moved]<BR><BR>Diamond of Long Cleeve: I will take the head swooner to Ringbearer.org.... though.... I do not know which forum I should go to.<BR><BR>Telemachos: I will help you give this swooner the therapy she needs, Diamond of Long Cleeve, for as long as she is yours to bear.<BR><BR>NiennaSorrowing: If by my poems or rants I can protect you, I will. You have my charm and charisma.<BR><BR>finarfin: And you have my dashing good looks!<BR><BR>Mr.bunny: And *MY* wit!<BR><BR>Bernd: You carry the fate of us all little one. If this is indeed the will of the Grand Pumba, then TORC will see it done. <BR><BR>Windfola: Hey! Miss Diamond's not going anywhere without me!<BR><BR>Leonides*: No indeed, it is hardly possible to seperate you, even when she is invited to a secret chatroom and you are not! <BR><BR>Gungnir and Saranthir: Wait! We're coming too! <BR><BR>Gungnir: You'd have to banish us to TORN to stop us!<BR><BR>Saranthir: Anyway, you need people with intelligence on this sort of mission, quest.... thing.<BR><BR>Gungnir: Well, that rules you out you stupid ponse. <BR><BR>Leonides*: Nine cyber-companions... So be it! You shall be.... no hang on, cut the music, this is lame.<BR><BR>Saranthir: Great!! ... What's a swooner?? <BR>
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Postby Parador~J » Sat May 04, 2002 9:27 pm

Denethor...thank~you!<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>...that is a TORC classic <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> <BR><BR>Snowdog...<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> you are a TORC classic yourself <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> ~Thank-you~<BR><BR>keepem' coming guys...they just get better and better...<BR><BR><BR>FT...how the heck are you!?<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>...we miss you!
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Postby Denethor » Tue May 07, 2002 4:42 am

This would have to be one of the most sarcastic threads I have seen: <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR><BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=43660">http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=43660</a>
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Postby Parador~J » Wed Jun 12, 2002 3:42 pm

It's time to bring this thread back up again!<BR><BR>Thanks Snowdog!...reading your post in 'The very nice People of TORC' gave me the idea of adding this thread!...and yes, I love reading your posts <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>...you don't beat around the bush, and you say what you mean with vision and clarity...<BR><BR><i>Parador bow's lowly to the Lord</i>...'Inwir_Draunimion...your thread deserves a place in the TORC archives...Great idea <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>...I for one, am glad I came across it' <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> <BR><BR><a target=new href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/TheWhiteCouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=24&threadid=44448">The VERY NICE people of TORC</a>...<i>'Kindness is an act always worthy of the effort. Compassion and recognition of our worth fuel us, and I hope you all have the opportunity to experience it every day'</i>---Inwir<BR><BR>
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