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An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off!

Postby AncalagonTheBlack » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:15 pm

The first third of Tolkien's Hobbit novel has very similar story beats to The Fellowship of the Ring, and with Peter Jackson's additions, the films are even more alike.

So, which film does better in each of these sequences?

Smaug Destroys Erebor Prologue VS Last Alliance Prologue
Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits"
Gandalf arrives and meets Bilbo VS Gandalf arrives and meets Frodo
An Unexpected Party VS Bilbo's birthday party
Gandalf convinces Bilbo to go on the Erebor quest VS Gandalf convinces Frodo to leave with the One Ring
Bilbo joins up with Thorin & Company VS Merry & Pippin joins up with Frodo & Sam
Encounter with warg scouts VS Encounter with black riders at Buckleberry Ferry
Thorin & Company meet Radagast VS The hobbits meet Strider
Thorin fights Azog flashback VS Isildur fights Sauron flashback
Radagast & Necromancer at Dol Guldur VS Gandalf & Saruman at Orthanc
Encounter with the Trolls VS Encounter with the Ringwraiths at Weathertop
Gandalf presents Bilbo with Sting VS Strider gives hobbits Morgul blades
Bunny sled chase VS Flight to the Ford
Thorin & Company arrive at Rivendell VS Frodo wakes up in Rivendell
Elrond says "some may not deem it wise" to retake Erebor VS Elrond says "The Ring cannot stay here, Gandalf"
The White Council VS The Council of Elrond
Stone Giant fight VS The Caradhras pass
The chute at the entrance to Goblin Town VS The watcher at the gates of Moria
Encounter with the Cave Troll VS encounter with the Goblin King
The collapsing scaffolding in Goblin Town VS the collapsing bridges in Moria
Riddles in the Dark VS The Bridge of Khazad-dum
Thorin fights Azog VS Boromir fights Lurtz
Thorin & Company look on to Erebor from the Carrock VS Frodo & Sam look on to Mordor from Emyn Muil

On the basis of these individual sequence face-offs, determine:

An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby andurilwest » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:21 pm

Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits"

Old Bilbo is writing about himself in third person?

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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby AncalagonTheBlack » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:25 pm

I''ll go first!

The first third of Tolkien's Hobbit novel has very similar story beats to The Fellowship of the Ring, and with Peter Jackson's additions, the films are even more alike.


Smaug Destroys Erebor Prologue VS Last Alliance Prologue
Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits"
Gandalf arrives and meets Bilbo VS Gandalf arrives and meets Frodo
An Unexpected Party VS Bilbo's birthday party
Gandalf convinces Bilbo to go on the Erebor quest VS Gandalf convinces Frodo to leave with the One Ring
Bilbo joins up with Thorin & Company VS Merry & Pippin join up with Frodo & Sam
Encounter with warg scouts VS Encounter with black riders at Buckleberry Ferry
Thorin & Company meet Radagast VS The hobbits meet Strider
Thorin fights Azog flashback VS Isildur fights Sauron flashback
Radagast & Necromancer at Dol Guldur VS Gandalf & Saruman at Orthanc
Encounter with the Trolls VS Encounter with the Ringwraiths at Weathertop
Gandalf presents Bilbo with Sting VS Strider gives hobbits Morgul blades
Bunny sled chase VS Flight to the Ford
Thorin & Company arrive at Rivendell VS Frodo wakes up in Rivendell
Elrond says "some may not deem it wise" to retake Erebor VS Elrond says "The Ring cannot stay here, Gandalf"
The White Council VS The Council of Elrond
Stone Giant fight VS The Caradhras pass
The chute at the entrance to Goblin Town VS The watcher at the gates of Moria
Encounter with the Cave Troll VS encounter with the Goblin King
The collapsing scaffolding in Goblin Town VS the collapsing bridges in Moria
Riddles in the Dark VS The Bridge of Khazad-dum
Thorin fights Azog VS Boromir fights Lurtz
Thorin & Company look on to Erebor from the Carrock VS Frodo & Sam look on to Mordor from Emyn Muil

On the basis of these individual sequence face-offs, determine:

An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby AncalagonTheBlack » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:27 pm

andurilwest wrote:
Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits"

Old Bilbo is writing about himself in third person?


No, but he writes something very similar to the book's "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" passage.
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby Swordsman_Of_The_Tower » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:58 pm

I'll go. (Results in bold)

Though it's really hard for me to compare to FOTR, it was just so wondrous the first time...........

Smaug Destroys Erebor Prologue vs Last Alliance Prologue (Narrowly)

Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits"

Gandalf arrives and meets Bilbo VS Gandalf arrives and meets Frodo

An Unexpected Party VS Bilbo's birthday party (VERY close. unexpected party was funnier)

Gandalf convinces Bilbo to go on the Erebor quest VS Gandalf convinces Frodo to leave with the One Ring

Bilbo joins up with Thorin & Company VS Merry & Pippin joins up with Frodo & Sam

Encounter with warg scouts VS Encounter with black riders at Buckleberry Ferry

Thorin & Company meet Radagast VS The hobbits meet Strider

Thorin fights Azog flashback VS Isildur fights Sauron flashback

Radagast & Necromancer at Dol Guldur VS Gandalf & Saruman at Orthanc (I didn't like Saruman-Gandalf fight)

Encounter with the Trolls VS Encounter with the Ringwraiths at Weathertop

Gandalf presents Bilbo with Sting VS Strider gives hobbits Morgul blades

Bunny sled chase VS Flight to the Ford

Thorin & Company arrive at Rivendell VS Frodo wakes up in Rivendell

Elrond says "some may not deem it wise" to retake Erebor VS Elrond says "The Ring cannot stay here, Gandalf"

The White Council VS The Council of Elrond (Oh come on we got "ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY!" Out of that.

Stone Giant fight VS The Caradhras pass

The chute at the entrance to Goblin Town VS The watcher at the gates of Moria

Encounter with the Cave Troll VS encounter with the Goblin King (by far)

The collapsing scaffolding in Goblin Town VS the collapsing bridges in Moria

Riddles in the Dark VS The Bridge of Khazad-dum

Thorin fights Azog VS Boromir fights Lurtz

Thorin & Company look on to Erebor from the Carrock VS Frodo & Sam look on to Mordor from Emyn Muil
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby AncalagonTheBlack » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:18 pm

Swordsman_Of_The_Tower wrote:I'll go. (Results in bold)


I like the way you presented your answers. I changed mine to match your method.
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby FrodoTook » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:36 pm

Love this and will bite.

After my first view of The Hobbit.

1 Smaug Destroys Erebor Prologue VS Last Alliance Prologue...slight edge here.
2 Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits"
3 Gandalf arrives and meets Bilbo VS Gandalf arrives and meets Frodo
4 An Unexpected Party VS Bilbo's birthday party
5 Gandalf convinces Bilbo to go on the Erebor quest VS Gandalf convinces Frodo to leave with the One Ring
6 Bilbo joins up with Thorin & Company VS Merry & Pippin joins up with Frodo & Sam
7 ]Encounter with warg scouts VS Encounter with black riders at Buckleberry Ferry
8 Thorin & Company meet Radagast VS The hobbits meet Strider
9 Thorin fights Azog flashback VS Isildur fights Sauron flashback
10 Radagast & Necromancer at Dol Guldur VS Gandalf & Saruman at Orthanc
11 Encounter with the Trolls VS Encounter with the Ringwraiths at Weathertop
12 Gandalf presents Bilbo with Sting VS Strider gives hobbits Morgul blades
13 Bunny sled chase VS Flight to the Ford
14 Thorin & Company arrive at Rivendell VS Frodo wakes up in Rivendell
15 Elrond says "some may not deem it wise" to retake Erebor VS Elrond says "The Ring cannot stay here, Gandalf"
16 The White Council VS The Council of Elrond
17 Stone Giant fight VS The Caradhras pass
18 The chute at the entrance to Goblin Town VS The watcher at the gates of Moria
19 Encounter with the Cave Troll VS encounter with the Goblin King..loved both. I cannot decide.
20 The collapsing scaffolding in Goblin Town VS the collapsing bridges in Moria...unfortunately Goblin Town became tedious :hair:
21 Riddles in the Dark VS The Bridge of Khazad-dum..loved both. I cannot decide.
22 Thorin fights Azog VS Boromir fights Lurtz.
23 Thorin & Company look on to Erebor from the Carrock VS Frodo & Sam look on to Mordor from Emyn Muil...Definitely!!!

The Hobbit / AUJ 6

FOTR 15

Cannot decide 2

Surely made me think. I now need to look at what I submitted to see which I perceived as better..

Grand thread Ancalagon.

edited to say I placed numbers by each because I was losing track while trying to figure out my mindset. Now, going to figure. :)
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby Swordsman_Of_The_Tower » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:45 pm

I notice you heavily chose the middle of "An Unexpected Journey" And the end of FOTR.
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby eomer32 » Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:30 pm

Ok, here goes:

1 Smaug Destroys Erebor Prologue VS Last Alliance Prologue (C'mon, Sauron baby!!!)
2 Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits"
3 Gandalf arrives and meets Bilbo VS Gandalf arrives and meets Frodo
4 An Unexpected Party VS Bilbo's birthday party
5 Gandalf convinces Bilbo to go on the Erebor quest VS Gandalf convinces Frodo to leave with the One Ring
6 Bilbo joins up with Thorin & Company VS Merry & Pippin joins up with Frodo & Sam
7 Encounter with warg scouts VS Encounter with black riders at Buckleberry Ferry
8 Thorin & Company meet Radagast VS The hobbits meet Strider
9 Thorin fights Azog flashback VS Isildur fights Sauron flashback
10 Radagast & Necromancer at Dol Guldur VS Gandalf & Saruman at Orthanc
11 Encounter with the Trolls VS Encounter with the Ringwraiths at Weathertop
12 Gandalf presents Bilbo with Sting VS Strider gives hobbits Morgul blades
13 Bunny sled chase VS Flight to the Ford
14 Thorin & Company arrive at Rivendell VS Frodo wakes up in Rivendell
15 Elrond says "some may not deem it wise" to retake Erebor VS Elrond says "The Ring cannot stay here, Gandalf"
16 The White Council VS The Council of Elrond
17 Stone Giant fight VS The Caradhras pass
18 The chute at the entrance to Goblin Town VS The watcher at the gates of Moria
19 Encounter with the Cave Troll VS encounter with the Goblin King
20 The collapsing scaffolding in Goblin Town VS the collapsing bridges in Moria
21 Riddles in the Dark VS The Bridge of Khazad-dum
22 Thorin fights Azog VS Boromir fights Lurtz
23 Thorin & Company look on to Erebor from the Carrock VS Frodo & Sam look on to Mordor from Emyn Muil

12-11 FOTR if i counted correctly. I am NOT suprised. :D
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby FrodoTook » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:12 pm

I am surprised at my initial responses. They might change with subsequent viewings. But for now, I have thought of myself ( as a reader ) more of a LOTR lover than The Hobbit Lover. I know this a different medium or maybe it is because I just recently saw The Hobbit movie. Either way, I am gladdened to feel reinforced that I enjoyed The Hobbit as much as I did / do. Makes some sense to me. :)

The Hobbit / AUJ 6

FOTR 15

Cannot decide 2

This list did make me think. I found myself going back and forth in the beginning of the choices. Which was interesting for me to see.

That being said, I am glad to feel good about our latest movie.

Also. Thank you SOTT for noticing something I might well have missed. You saw the pattern before I did.

Would be cool if our personal preferences could be seen in order. Hey, I can dream. Like making our own dream of ME become the best dream.

Once again, a grand thread Ancalagon.
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby Jonathan » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:17 pm

I should put together a poll page for this! I'll let you know when I get to it... :)
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby FrodoTook » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:32 pm

I look forward to it Jon.
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby Swordsman_Of_The_Tower » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:40 pm

I'm tied, 11-11 :D really surprised

I think it's a nostalgia effect for me. I would still, at this moment rank the films FOTR--ROTK--AUJ--TTT

I still on a whole, firmly find FOTR as my favorite, I am not sure how much of that is nostalgia.

However, I might just need to let AUJ bake a bit in the brain. Turn it over a few times.

But yes FrodoTook..............it's really nice to have a new film to feel good about and to enjoy isn't it?
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby FrodoTook » Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:19 pm

Swordsman_Of_The_Tower wrote:it's really nice to have a new film to feel good about and to enjoy isn't it?


It surely is. 8)

As an aside. My favorite part of textual LOTR is TTT. A new Tolkien friend of mine recently asked me which was my favorite part of the textual LOTR.

Just after a few seconds of thought...my answer was TTT.
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby Elmtree » Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:43 pm

Smaug Destroys Erebor Prologue VS Last Alliance Prologue - liked both. Last Alliance got a lot more info out and intro'd us to many more characters more than adequately in a shorter period of time per character. I'd say for doing the job the prologues had to do, they were about the same. For overall story effect I'd rate Fellowship over the Hobbit.

Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits" I'm going with The Hobbit on this one. I liked both, again, but the Bilbo scene in the EE broke the flow of Fellowship as a movie. It was fine in the EE but would not have worked well in the TE, imo. I really liked the Bilbo/Frodo scene in the Hobbit.

Gandalf arrives and meets Bilbo VS Gandalf arrives and meets Frodo
Hmmm..... I liked both here. The actual meeting I'd go with the Hobbit but the overall scenes ... that's a tough call. Almost a tie. For the overall scene, counting Frodo riding thru Hobbiton with Gandalf, I'd go with Fellowship.

An Unexpected Party VS Bilbo's birthday party
Probably the Hobbit again.

Gandalf convinces Bilbo to go on the Erebor quest VS Gandalf convinces Frodo to leave with the One Ring
Oooh... this one is difficult. Gandalf convincing Frodo to leave was marred by the "is it secret? is it safe?!!!!!111" Gandalf line. But as far as getting the viewer to understand the character within the film-- Fellowship is much better here. Much. I know, because I read the Hobbit, why Bilbo got on the road (he was pushed out the door). In the Hobbit film I didn't quite 'get' it... the scene where Bilbo is looking into the fire hearing the Dwarvish song was great-- you could see him get caught up in it. But in the house, after... walking through... I felt like it needed just a little bit more to show Bilbo's choice. I might feel differently on a second viewing, but although I liked the scene it was a little weak and almost shallow relative to Fellowship. Jackson might have done a disservice to Gandalf with the Panicky Gandalf stuff... but he showed very very well what MovieFrodo was made of, even way before things got really tough, in that scene in Fellowship.

Bilbo joins up with Thorin & Company VS Merry & Pippin joins up with Frodo & Sam
Again a difficult one! I'm going with Fellowship, even though I did not like the way Merry and Pippin were portrayed as Bored of the Rings' Moxie and Pepsi, the twins. The Fellowship scene WORKED in an important way, though-- it got viewers to latch onto the characters, to begin to care about them. And it did it in a few short scenes. This did not happen in the Hobbit. It should have, but it did not.

Encounter with warg scouts VS Encounter with black riders at Buckleberry Ferry Buckleberry Ferry, Fellowship, hands down. The whole warg scouts thing was embarrassingly bad to me. Just stupid ... it screamed "we need some action in this flick so let's send in wargs!" In fact it felt like Peter Jackson was the DM and he rolled the die and got "Warg Attack". It did not fit the story. The Black Riders at the Ferry fit the story Fellowship was telling very well.

Thorin & Company meet Radagast VS The hobbits meet Strider I liked Radagast better. Total fabrication, but the whole pushing and shoving Strider intro scene was weak to me. Strider got better but he was not well introduced in Fellowship... okay, not badly introduced, it was just... weak.

Thorin fights Azog flashback VS Isildur fights Sauron flashback
\ISILDUR HANDS DOWN. This is the clearest difference in the list so far. The whole Thorin Azog thing was awful. It LOOKED like a bad perfume commercial. It was like Peter Jackson on autopilot. And quite honestly the CGI Azog looked cartoonish. The whole thing felt very un-real and I just didn't care. I quite cared about the Isildur encounter.


Radagast & Necromancer at Dol Guldur VS Gandalf & Saruman at Orthanc
Radagast in Dol Guldur. Creepy scene, and just enough of it. I really liked it. Again, fabricated for the movie, but Jackson wrote a radagast I could care about -- so I wanted to follow him into Dol Guldur and I got creeped out when he did. Plus that ghost and the HINT of the Necromancer was very well done. Good stuff. I'd have taken more like this over Cartoon Pale Orc (did anyone feel like referring the Pale Orc to an orthodontist? His smile was all wrong).

Encounter with the Trolls VS Encounter with the Ringwraiths at Weathertop Apples and Oranges-- two very different scenes. Loved both -- at least most of the way through the scenes -- Loved Weathertop and Fellowship (loved it UNTIL Aragorn began the Nazgul flambe stuff which RUINED it for me forever... but the initial encounter was very good. This one is a tie overall.

Gandalf presents Bilbo with Sting VS Strider gives hobbits Morgul blades Again, very different scenes. I'd go with The Hobbit here- the scene meant more. In Fellowship Strider just threw the Hobbits some blades. Bah. Bilbo getting sting was an important character moment, and I wish we'd had more of those in The Hobbit.

Bunny sled chase VS Flight to the Ford
Even with Xenarwen, I'll go with Fellowship. The scene was just better and meant more. I did not like the weakening of Frodo (I thought his whole descent following the attack was not well done in the film) BUT the scene FIT the story, and it again made you feel for the characters involved. The Bunny scene was just... there. I'm not sure what purposed it served, other than another action scene which was there for no other purpose but "golly, we've been walking awhile, let me roll the dice and see what monsters show up again!"

Thorin & Company arrive at Rivendell VS Frodo wakes up in Rivendell Again, apples and oranges. I'll go with Fellowship again, though. It hit important emotional moments. At this point in The Hobbit there really were not emotional moments or character development. It's flat, here. A good lettuce joke, that's about it. Oh, and a NICE Elrond. I did like that... wish we'd seen him in Fellowship.

Elrond says "some may not deem it wise" to retake Erebor VS Elrond says "The Ring cannot stay here, Gandalf" Um... not sure either one ranked above the other. These two scenes don't match up to me, other than Elrond has both lines. I'd match "the ring can't stay here" more with Saruman's lines in the hobbit.
The White Council VS The Council of Elrond MORE apples and oranges! I liked both. But I'll go with CoE. CoE was better dramatically and we had many characters introduced WELL. I thought the movie CoE was a very good way of showing the evil of the ring and showing WHY Frodo agreed to continue the quest. And all done in a relatively short period of time!
Stone Giant fight VS The Caradhras pass Caradhras, over Stone Giants. I wasn't wild about either. But Fellowship, again, developed character and taught us more about the characters in those scenes. The Hobbit did not. The Giant scene was just... there. Like the next step in the video game. It served NO purpose, and it should have.
The chute at the entrance to Goblin Town VS The watcher at the gates of Moria Oooh... now we have two examples of Jackson excess! Hard to call this one... again the scenes are not really parallel ones to me. I'll go with the Hobbit here, but only just, and only because Jackson overdid it with the Kraken/Watcher throwing Frodo around.
Encounter with the Cave Troll VS encounter with the Goblin King Goblin King.
The collapsing scaffolding in Goblin Town VS the collapsing bridges in Moria Moria... I didn't find the two scenes similar at all, but the whole Moria sequence was so darn good and each action section had character moments before, during, and after. Goblin town was just... more video game. Not objectionable, it was just... there.
Riddles in the Dark VS The Bridge of Khazad-dum Khazad-dum. That might be the best scene in Fellowship. And that isn't even remotely how I pictured the Balrog. I can pick the scene apart... but it's still incredible. Riddles was good, but too little, too late, in The Hobbit.

Thorin fights Azog VS Boromir fights Lurtz BOROMIR all the way! This was an incredibly emotional scene... very very powerful. By the time Boromir faced Lurtz (who we didn't need to see in flashbacks to make the bit work), we'd seen BOROMIR develop as a character. We saw him struggling.. we saw him failing morally... we saw him realize what this cost... we saw his REDEMPTION in this fight. With Thorin/Azog it was what? Who cares? Who ARE these people? I was given NO reason to care about Thorin or his struggles at all. So I didn't.

Thorin & Company look on to Erebor from the Carrock VS Frodo & Sam look on to Mordor from Emyn Muil Emyn Muil hands down. The end of fellowship was very well done (not perfect, but pretty darn well done). It hit all the right emotional notes.

Because Jackson had not gotten me to care about any of the Dwarves, or even Bilbo much (despite strong acting from just about everyone), them looking on their homeland was just ... meh.

And that, to me, is the huge weakness in the Hobbit. Jackson spoke about being concerned with 13 dwarves...too many characters. I think he got bogged down in that. He didn't NEED to develop them all.. but he DID need to develop three or four. He needed to make us care about Bilbo, about Thorin (major fail, there), about maybe Balin and Kili and Bifur (Or was it Bofur?). Give us some people to care about. Heck, why were those Dwarves going on the quest? Why should I care? I don't care. I think the Azog stuff really muddied the motivation and helped me NOT care. There is so much GOOD STORY in the Hobbit, which should be easily adaptable. Jackson adapted a massive novel written in an unconventional way... and he got it to work (mind you, I didn't like parts, but it did work as a film and it worked as far as getting viewers to really ROOT for the characters, such as he drew them). He failed to do that in the Hobbit. This list *really* underscores that for me.
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby Jonathan » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:01 am

As promised, here's a page with all the polls on it...!

http://www.theonering.com/the-hobbit/face-off-the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-vs-the-fellowship-of-the-ring

I've gone through the list myself, but I want to have a reason for every choice before I post here... in the meantime, add your votes to each poll (alas, it requires flash, it seems--I used a service called PollSnack instead of building a poll system myself), and I'll let folks on facebook and twitter know about it on Monday too!
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby Mithfânion » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:58 am

Smaug Destroys Erebor Prologue VS Last Alliance Prologue

So hard. Both are excellent, but the Last Alliance was tremendous and one of the best scenes in the whole trilogy.

Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits"
Gandalf arrives and meets Bilbo VS Gandalf arrives and meets Frodo

The whole Gandalf arriving in Bag End scene in Fellowship is marvellous, the Hobbit does not go near that.

An Unexpected Party VS Bilbo's birthday party
Gandalf convinces Bilbo to go on the Erebor quest VS Gandalf convinces Frodo to leave with the One Ring
Bilbo joins up with Thorin & Company VS Merry & Pippin joins up with Frodo & Sam
Encounter with warg scouts VS Encounter with black riders at Buckleberry Ferry
Thorin & Company meet Radagast VS The hobbits meet Strider
Thorin fights Azog flashback VS Isildur fights Sauron flashback
Radagast & Necromancer at Dol Guldur VS Gandalf & Saruman at Orthanc

The Radagast at Dol Guldur scene is really incredibly short. The Gandalf vs Saruman has much more weight to it, and is more exciting as well.

Encounter with the Trolls VS Encounter with the Ringwraiths at Weathertop
Gandalf presents Bilbo with Sting VS Strider gives hobbits Morgul blades

Bunny sled chase VS Flight to the Ford

I like the bunny sled and Radagast, but Flight to the Ford turned out to be an iconic scene.

Thorin & Company arrive at Rivendell VS Frodo wakes up in Rivendell

The music and the awe when the dwarves arrive, surpasses the initial Rivendell scene in Fellowship.

Elrond says "some may not deem it wise" to retake Erebor VS Elrond says "The Ring cannot stay here, Gandalf"
The White Council VS The Council of Elrond

White Council looks gorgeous, but it is very brief isn't it? It seems very hard not to choose the Fellowship council here, which is well produced and maybe 3 times as long.

Stone Giant fight VS The Caradhras pass

The Stone Giant was boring and too unbelievable. The Caradhras pass was cool, what with Legolas walking on snow and Saruman and Gandalf both trying to influence the weather with incantations. Loved that scene.

The chute at the entrance to Goblin Town VS The watcher at the gates of Moria

Easily the Watcher scene.

Encounter with the Goblin KIng vs Encounter with the cave troll

This is done much better in Fellowship.

The collapsing scaffolding in Goblin Town VS the collapsing bridges in Moria

No preference, dislike both.

Riddles in the Dark VS The Bridge of Khazad-dum

A landslide victory for the Bridge sequence.

Thorin fights Azog VS Boromir fights Lurtz

I prefer Azog to Lurtz and Thorin to Boromir, but the scene in Fellowship is much more tense and emotional. It's simply a better sequence.

Thorin & Company look on to Erebor from the Carrock VS Frodo & Sam look on to Mordor from Emyn Muil

The Hobbit wins this one because the whole "thrush flies to Erebor and we see Smaug lying in mountains of gold" is just a great shot.

I ended up with 9 preferences for the Hobbit, and 13 for Fellowship. This comparison reflects why I love he first 1,5 hour of AUJ much more than the action-filled second part, because it is here that it beats the Fellowship film repeatedly. In the second half of both films, I prefer Fellowship on nearly all counts, and that does not even include the Fellowship's wonderful Lothlorien sequence.

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Is it me or is one of the sequence in this comparison reversed, and consequently faulty in Jonathan's poll as well?
The encounter with the cave troll is in FOTR, and Goblin King is in AUJ.
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby Denethor » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:43 am

Smaug Destroys Erebor Prologue VS Last Alliance Prologue
Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits"
Gandalf arrives and meets Bilbo VS Gandalf arrives and meets Frodo
An Unexpected Party VS Bilbo's birthday party
Gandalf convinces Bilbo to go on the Erebor quest VS Gandalf convinces Frodo to leave with the One Ring
Bilbo joins up with Thorin & Company VS Merry & Pippin joins up with Frodo & Sam
Encounter with warg scouts VS Encounter with black riders at Buckleberry Ferry
Thorin & Company meet Radagast VS The hobbits meet Strider
Thorin fights Azog flashback VS Isildur fights Sauron flashback
Radagast & Necromancer at Dol Guldur VS Gandalf & Saruman at Orthanc
Encounter with the Trolls VS Encounter with the Ringwraiths at Weathertop
Gandalf presents Bilbo with Sting VS Strider gives hobbits Morgul blades
Bunny sled chase VS Flight to the Ford
Thorin & Company arrive at Rivendell VS Frodo wakes up in Rivendell
Elrond says "some may not deem it wise" to retake Erebor VS Elrond says "The Ring cannot stay here, Gandalf"
The White Council VS The Council of Elrond
Stone Giant fight VS The Caradhras pass
The chute at the entrance to Goblin Town VS The watcher at the gates of Moria
Encounter with the Cave Troll VS encounter with the Goblin King
The collapsing scaffolding in Goblin Town VS the collapsing bridges in Moria
Riddles in the Dark VS The Bridge of Khazad-dum
Thorin fights Azog VS Boromir fights Lurtz
Thorin & Company look on to Erebor from the Carrock VS Frodo & Sam look on to Mordor from Emyn Muil
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby Kaya » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:45 am

I'm game. :) Though I think it's a bit unfair for me to weigh scenes at this point where I've seen AUJ only once, and FOTR uncountable times. But for now, this is how I feel about them both...

1. Smaug Destroys Erebor Prologue VS Last Alliance Prologue: I would have prefered The Hobbit to start without the whole prologue, and see it all included later on as background story.
2. Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits": I've always loved this addition and again, I could have lived without the Bilbo / Frodo intro in The Hobbit, which I thought was just weird since they both looked so different to me than in LOTR.
3. Gandalf arrives and meets Bilbo VS Gandalf arrives and meets Frodo
4. An Unexpected Party VS Bilbo's birthday party: a difficult choice, but the humour and the dwarves won in the end.
5. Gandalf convinces Bilbo to go on the Erebor quest VS Gandalf convinces Frodo to leave with the One Ring
6. Bilbo joins up with Thorin & Company VS Merry & Pippin joins up with Frodo & Sam
7. Encounter with warg scouts VS Encounter with black riders at Buckleberry Ferry: That Nazgul scene still gives me the creeps.
8. Thorin & Company meet Radagast VS The hobbits meet Strider: I totally love Strider's introduction, with the smouldering embers of his pipe casting shadows on his face.
9. Thorin fights Azog flashback VS Isildur fights Sauron flashback
10. Radagast & Necromancer at Dol Guldur VS Gandalf & Saruman at Orthanc
11. Encounter with the Trolls VS Encounter with the Ringwraiths at Weathertop: A difficult choice, because I found the Troll scene very well done. But yeah, Nazgul, it's difficult to compete with these guys.
12. Gandalf presents Bilbo with Sting VS Strider gives hobbits Morgul blades
13. Bunny sled chase VS Flight to the Ford: hands down, even though I'm still miffed over Glorfindel's replacement. The Bunny sled chase just made me cringe.
14. Thorin & Company arrive at Rivendell VS Frodo wakes up in Rivendell: maybe I'm biassed, but it was wonderful to be back in Rivendell. Loved every bit of it, including Elrond, whom I liked much more in The Hobbit than in LOTR.
15. Elrond says "some may not deem it wise" to retake Erebor VS Elrond says "The Ring cannot stay here, Gandalf"
16. The White Council VS The Council of Elrond: I don't know what irked me about that whole White Council scene - I think this definitely needs at least another viewing. The council of Elrond scene, however, was much more significant in the whole of the story of LOTR, and gripped me at the first viewing.
17. Stone Giant fight VS The Caradhras pass; I was very happy to see the stone giant fight was included, and I loved how it was done.
18. The chute at the entrance to Goblin Town VS The watcher at the gates of Moria
19. Encounter with the Goblin King VS encounter with the Cave Troll
20. The collapsing scaffolding in Goblin Town VS the collapsing bridges in Moria: I flipped a coin over this one.
21. Riddles in the Dark VS The Bridge of Khazad-dum: because it was so close to the book, and so well done.
22. Thorin fights Azog VS Boromir fights Lurtz: too much Thorin, too little The Hobbit. Plus, Boromir was just great in that scene, and I believed him.
23. Thorin & Company look on to Erebor from the Carrock VS Frodo & Sam look on to Mordor from Emyn Muil: at this point I was really, really tired of the forced on similarities. I could deal with the ones that were there because of that's how it was in the books (of course), but not so with most of the invented ones.

FOTR: 12; AUJ: 11

That was close! And it reflects well how I feel about AUJ in particular. It wasn't flawless, but to me it was just perfect.
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby siddharth » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:31 pm

Smaug Destroys Erebor Prologue (4/5) VS Last Alliance Prologue (3/5)
Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit"(3/5) VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits"(2.5/5)
Gandalf arrives and meets Bilbo (4/5) VS Gandalf arrives and meets Frodo ( 2/5)
An Unexpected Party (5/5) VS Bilbo's birthday party ( 4/5)
Gandalf convinces Bilbo to go on the Erebor quest (2/5) VS Gandalf convinces Frodo to leave with the One Ring ( 3.5/5)
Bilbo joins up with Thorin & Company (3/5) VS Merry & Pippin joins up with Frodo & Sam(3/5)
Encounter with warg scouts(4/5) VS Encounter with black riders at Buckleberry Ferry ( 4/5) ... Equal suspense and great action!
Thorin & Company meet Radagast (3/5) VS The hobbits meet Strider ( 4/5)
Thorin fights Azog flashback(4.5/5) VS Isildur fights Sauron flashback( 4/5) ..... In TH most fights are in slo-mo. But in LOTR Sauron's finger is easily cut ( like butter?)
Radagast & Necromancer at Dol Guldur( 2/5) VS Gandalf & Saruman at Orthanc ( 4.5/5)
Encounter with the Trolls(3/5) VS Encounter with the Ringwraiths at Weathertop ( 5/5)
Gandalf presents Bilbo with Sting (3.5/5) VS Strider gives hobbits Morgul blades ( 2/5)....Good quote by Gandalf!
Bunny sled chase (1/5) VS Flight to the Ford (5/5)
Thorin & Company arrive at Rivendell ( 4/5) VS Frodo wakes up in Rivendell (3.5/5)
Elrond says "some may not deem it wise" to retake Erebor (4.5/5) VS Elrond says "The Ring cannot stay here, Gandalf" ( 4/5)
The White Council (3/5) VS The Council of Elrond ( 5/5)
Stone Giant fight (5/5) VS The Caradhras pass ( 4/5)
The chute at the entrance to Goblin Town (2/5) VS The watcher at the gates of Moria (4/5)
Encounter with the Cave Troll (5/5) VS encounter with the Goblin King (2.5/5)
The collapsing scaffolding in Goblin Town ( 3/5) VS the collapsing bridges in Moria (5/5)
Riddles in the Dark (5/5) VS The Bridge of Khazad-dum (5/5)... Both most favorite scenes(Best of Andy Serkis v/s best of technical wizardry?)
Thorin fights Azog( 3/5) VS Boromir fights Lurtz ( 5/5)
Thorin & Company look on to Erebor from the Carrock (3.5/5) VS Frodo & Sam look on to Mordor from Emyn Muil (4/5)

OVERALL:
TH:AUJ ( 4/5) v/s LOTR:FOTR ( 4.5/5)
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby Macsen » Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:43 pm

Smaug Destroys Erebor Prologue VS Last Alliance Prologue
Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits"
Gandalf arrives and meets Bilbo VS Gandalf arrives and meets Frodo
An Unexpected Party VS Bilbo's birthday party
Gandalf convinces Bilbo to go on the Erebor quest VS Gandalf convinces Frodo to leave with the One Ring
Bilbo joins up with Thorin & Company VS Merry & Pippin joins up with Frodo & Sam
Encounter with warg scouts VS Encounter with black riders at Buckleberry Ferry
Thorin & Company meet Radagast VS The hobbits meet Strider
Thorin fights Azog flashback VS Isildur fights Sauron flashback
Radagast & Necromancer at Dol Guldur VS Gandalf & Saruman at Orthanc
Encounter with the Trolls VS Encounter with the Ringwraiths at Weathertop
Gandalf presents Bilbo with Sting VS Strider gives hobbits Morgul blades
Bunny sled chase VS Flight to the Ford
Thorin & Company arrive at Rivendell VS Frodo wakes up in Rivendell
Elrond says "some may not deem it wise" to retake Erebor VS Elrond says "The Ring cannot stay here, Gandalf"
The White Council VS The Council of Elrond
Stone Giant fight VS The Caradhras pass
The chute at the entrance to Goblin Town VS The watcher at the gates of Moria
Encounter with the Cave Troll VS encounter with the Goblin King
The collapsing scaffolding in Goblin Town VS the collapsing bridges in Moria
Riddles in the Dark VS The Bridge of Khazad-dum
Thorin fights Azog VS Boromir fights Lurtz
Thorin & Company look on to Erebor from the Carrock VS Frodo & Sam look on to Mordor from Emyn Muil

AUJ - 15 v FOTR - 8
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby heliona » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:15 pm

1 - Smaug Destroys Erebor Prologue VS Last Alliance Prologue

Has to be the Last Alliance one, just because there were too many little things wrong with the Erebor prologue for me.

2 - Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits"

Concerning Hobbits - I really liked that addition. I didn't really think the "in a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" was particularly necessary, especially since The Hobbit was written by a human narrator as opposed to a hobbit.

3 - Gandalf arrives and meets Bilbo VS Gandalf arrives and meets Frodo

Gandalf arriving to meet Bilbo. The good morning lines have to win it for me.

4 - An Unexpected Party VS Bilbo's birthday party

Bilbo's birthday party - Gandalf's fireworks! Need I say more?!

5 - Gandalf convinces Bilbo to go on the Erebor quest VS Gandalf convinces Frodo to leave with the One Ring

Well, Gandalf didn't really convince Bilbo to go on the quest (as he should have done if they'd been adhering to the book). I'm not sure I can chose between these, but I think I'll have to go with Frodo.

6 - Bilbo joins up with Thorin & Company VS Merry & Pippin joins up with Frodo & Sam

As Bilbo running after Thorin & Company just felt odd, I'm going with Merry and Pippin joining Frodo and Sam. The hobbit-ness of them agreeing to go as though it was an obvious thing to do despite the danger was lovely.

7 - Encounter with warg scouts VS Encounter with black riders at Buckleberry Ferry

The black riders. The Warg scouts were just a bit silly.

8 - Thorin & Company meet Radagast VS The hobbits meet Strider

I loved us as the viewer meeting Radagast. However, the first scene when Strider is seen, smoking his pipe as a shadow in the corner I absolutely adore. It's one of my favourite scenes.

9 - Thorin fights Azog flashback VS Isildur fights Sauron flashback

Isildur. I just wasn't sure about the Thorin story-line.

10 - Radagast & Necromancer at Dol Guldur VS Gandalf & Saruman at Orthanc

Radagast and the Necromancer. I loved the bit that made it obvious that Radagast, despite his quirkiness, had power. Gandalf and Saruman was just a bit silly.

11 - Encounter with the Trolls VS Encounter with the Ringwraiths at Weathertop

The trolls. I wasn't too keen on the Ringwraiths at Weathertop, probably due to Aragorn setting them on fire. But the feel of the trolls was right for The Hobbit.

12 - Gandalf presents Bilbo with Sting VS Strider gives hobbits Morgul blades

Sting, obviously. Sting was important to Bilbo's character development, whereas the Morgul blades didn't mean anything.

13 - Bunny sled chase VS Flight to the Ford

This is tricky, because whilst I loved the Flight to the Ford in the books, and it was good in the film too, Arwen usurping Frodo's brave stand kind of ruins it a bit for me. And Radagast's "these are rabbits of Rhosgobel" line really makes it. However, due to the bunny sled chase feeling as though it'd been cut, I'm going for the Flight to the Ford. There was more emotion in it.

14 - Thorin & Company arrive at Rivendell VS Frodo wakes up in Rivendell

Thorin & Company arriving in Rivendell. The look on Bilbo's face when he realised where he was was perfect.

15 - Elrond says "some may not deem it wise" to retake Erebor VS Elrond says "The Ring cannot stay here, Gandalf"

I think I'll have to go for "some may not deem it wise". Elrond's just cooler in The Hobbit. :D

16 - The White Council VS The Council of Elrond

They're hard to compare as they're so different. I think they're going to have to be a draw.

17 - Stone Giant fight VS The Caradhras pass

Much as I loved the stone giants being in the film, the fact that the dwarves and hobbit were on the knees was overkill and Boromir's character development has to give the win to the Caradhas Pass (plus Legolas walking on top of the snow.)

18 - The chute at the entrance to Goblin Town VS The watcher at the gates of Moria

Well. I quite liked the chute going down to the trap. I wished it'd been the way it was in the book, but I thought the alternative was clever (saying that, the scene just beforehand I didn't like (Bilbo deciding to leave) whereas I liked Gandalf puzzling over the Moria gate and Merry and Pippin bothering him.)


19 - Encounter with the Cave Troll VS encounter with the Goblin King

Tricky, because they were different. I think I'll have to go with the Goblin King, because of the book references and Gandalf's appearance. (Saying that, the chase afterwards - not good!)

20 - The collapsing scaffolding in Goblin Town VS the collapsing bridges in Moria

The collapsing bridges of Moria. There wasn't a single character close-up shot during the Goblin Town's chase - there didn't feel like there was any peril during that chase, no emotion to it.

21 - Riddles in the Dark VS The Bridge of Khazad-dum

Ooh, this one I can't chose between. Riddles in the Dark was almost perfect, and Gandalf was brilliant on the bridge. This one's a tie.

22 - Thorin fights Azog VS Boromir fights Lurtz

Boromir fighting Lurtz, definitely. It's the end of his journey - he's chosen his side and it's the right one. Thorin just being silly (and it's made up. :D)

23 - Thorin & Company look on to Erebor from the Carrock VS Frodo & Sam look on to Mordor from Emyn Muil

For the emotion, I'm going to have to say Frodo and Sam looking towards Mordor.

On the basis of these individual sequence face-offs, determine:

An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring

AUJ 8
FOTR 13
TIE 2

Yep, I'm not surprised by this. There was a lot more emotion in FOTR than in The Hobbit: AUJ and this is what swayed my answers.
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby wilko185 » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:21 pm

Smaug Destroys Erebor Prologue VS Last Alliance Prologue
Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits"
Gandalf arrives and meets Bilbo VS Gandalf arrives and meets Frodo
An Unexpected Party VS Bilbo's birthday party
Gandalf convinces Bilbo to go on the Erebor quest VS Gandalf convinces Frodo to leave with the One Ring
Bilbo joins up with Thorin & Company VS Merry & Pippin joins up with Frodo & Sam
Encounter with warg scouts VS Encounter with black riders at Buckleberry Ferry
Thorin & Company meet Radagast VS The hobbits meet Strider
Thorin fights Azog flashback VS Isildur fights Sauron flashback
Radagast & Necromancer at Dol Guldur VS Gandalf & Saruman at Orthanc
Encounter with the Trolls VS Encounter with the Ringwraiths at Weathertop
Gandalf presents Bilbo with Sting VS Strider gives hobbits Morgul blades
Bunny sled chase VS Flight to the Ford
Thorin & Company arrive at Rivendell VS Frodo wakes up in Rivendell
Elrond says "some may not deem it wise" to retake Erebor VS Elrond says "The Ring cannot stay here, Gandalf"
The White Council VS The Council of Elrond
Stone Giant fight VS The Caradhras pass
The chute at the entrance to Goblin Town VS The watcher at the gates of Moria
Encounter with the Cave Troll VS encounter with the Goblin King [* *as Mith says, be careful! these are the wrong way round* *]
The collapsing scaffolding in Goblin Town VS the collapsing bridges in Moria
Riddles in the Dark VS The Bridge of Khazad-dum
Thorin fights Azog VS Boromir fights Lurtz
Thorin & Company look on to Erebor from the Carrock VS Frodo & Sam look on to Mordor from Emyn Muil

8 AUJ / 15 FOTR

Some of the scenes are apples and oranges, but this is a fairly reasonable way to think about the films. It seems a bit unfair that some pairs are scenes which I didn't think were especially well done, and other pairs were both great scenes that I found difficult to separate.
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby Osskil » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:49 pm

Before answering this, I will predict that FotR comes out just slightly ahead of AUJ. Hm...

Smaug Destroys Erebor Prologue VS Last Alliance Prologue
Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits"
Gandalf arrives and meets Bilbo VS Gandalf arrives and meets Frodo (This one was so very close!)
An Unexpected Party VS Bilbo's birthday party
Gandalf convinces Bilbo to go on the Erebor quest VS Gandalf convinces Frodo to leave with the One Ring
Bilbo joins up with Thorin & Company VS Merry & Pippin joins up with Frodo & Sam
Encounter with warg scouts VS Encounter with black riders at Buckleberry Ferry
Thorin & Company meet Radagast VS The hobbits meet Strider
Thorin fights Azog flashback VS Isildur fights Sauron flashback
Radagast & Necromancer at Dol Guldur VS Gandalf & Saruman at Orthanc
Encounter with the Trolls VS Encounter with the Ringwraiths at Weathertop
Gandalf presents Bilbo with Sting VS Strider gives hobbits Morgul blades
Bunny sled chase VS Flight to the Ford
Thorin & Company arrive at Rivendell VS Frodo wakes up in Rivendell
Elrond says "some may not deem it wise" to retake Erebor VS Elrond says "The Ring cannot stay here, Gandalf"
The White Council VS The Council of Elrond
Stone Giant fight VS The Caradhras pass
The chute at the entrance to Goblin Town VS The watcher at the gates of Moria
Encounter with the Goblin King VS encounter with the Cave Troll.
The collapsing scaffolding in Goblin Town VS the collapsing bridges in Moria
Riddles in the Dark VS The Bridge of Khazad-dum
Thorin fights Azog VS Boromir fights Lurtz
Thorin & Company look on to Erebor from the Carrock VS Frodo & Sam look on to Mordor from Emyn Muil

So, what do we have here? 9 for FotR. 14 for AUJ. I'm a little surprised by that, but it makes sense: although FotR is, to me, the best of the trilogy, AUJ has more joy in it and more of a folkloric slant, both of which are pretty alluring in my book.

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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby Telemachos » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:32 pm

Smaug Destroys Erebor Prologue VS Last Alliance Prologue (slight edge)
Bilbo writes "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit" VS Bilbo writes "Concerning hobbits"
Gandalf arrives and meets Bilbo VS Gandalf arrives and meets Frodo
An Unexpected Party VS Bilbo's birthday party
Gandalf convinces Bilbo to go on the Erebor quest VS Gandalf convinces Frodo to leave with the One Ring
Bilbo joins up with Thorin & Company VS Merry & Pippin joins up with Frodo & Sam
Encounter with warg scouts VS Encounter with black riders at Buckleberry Ferry (didn't like either, particularly)
Thorin & Company meet Radagast VS The hobbits meet Strider
Thorin fights Azog flashback VS Isildur fights Sauron flashback
Radagast & Necromancer at Dol Guldur VS Gandalf & Saruman at Orthanc (slight edge, would be clear winner except for Wizard Duel)
Encounter with the Trolls VS Encounter with the Ringwraiths at Weathertop
Gandalf presents Bilbo with Sting VS Strider gives hobbits Morgul blades
Bunny sled chase VS Flight to the Ford
Thorin & Company arrive at Rivendell VS Frodo wakes up in Rivendell
Elrond says "some may not deem it wise" to retake Erebor VS Elrond says "The Ring cannot stay here, Gandalf"
The White Council VS The Council of Elrond
Stone Giant fight VS The Caradhras pass
The chute at the entrance to Goblin Town VS The watcher at the gates of Moria
Encounter with the Cave Troll VS encounter with the Goblin King
The collapsing scaffolding in Goblin Town VS the collapsing bridges in Moria (this is close, I really like the crazy Goblin Town stuff)
Riddles in the Dark VS The Bridge of Khazad-dum (both great)
Thorin fights Azog VS Boromir fights Lurtz
Thorin & Company look on to Erebor from the Carrock VS Frodo & Sam look on to Mordor from Emyn Muil

An Unexpected Journey (10) VS Fellowship of the Ring (15)

FOTR wins cleanly.
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Re: An Unexpected Journey VS Fellowship of the Ring Face-Off

Postby FrodoTook » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:07 pm

Jonathan wrote:As promised, here's a page with all the polls on it...!

http://www.theonering.com/the-hobbit/face-off-the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-vs-the-fellowship-of-the-ring

I've gone through the list myself, but I want to have a reason for every choice before I post here... in the meantime, add your votes to each poll (alas, it requires flash, it seems--I used a service called PollSnack instead of building a poll system myself), and I'll let folks on facebook and twitter know about it on Monday too!


Thanks for the poll Jon.

Just did it and found the results ( thus far ) very interesting. There were definitely some surprises for me.

Thanks again to Ancalagon and you.

Way cool.

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