The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings, and Tolkien - The One Ring

by **Didi** » Thu Feb 13, 2003 8:45 am

*wishes you luck* learning sindarin is still more difficult then quenya haha i wish helge d make a sindarin thing as he also made for quenya <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>

by **satch** » Mon Feb 17, 2003 10:01 am

yea i have to agree...that's why i started quenya instead... *zoom zoom to the top*

by **thegypsy** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 7:19 pm

Hey, does anyone have the translation for the writting on the title page of the LOTR series or the Silmarillion etc...? I tried to translate it but what I got didn't make any sense, at least I don't think it did anyway... I don't know. But yeah, if anyone knows what it says then I was just wondering. Doesn't it just drive you crazy when you are about this close || to knowing something and somebody says oh never mind, or you never figure it out? Well anyway, it does me. P.S. Has anyone been to the thread "My Big Fat Elvish Wedding"? if you haven't, you should go it is hilarious! I think that it is the newest thread...not sure. Okay, Okay, I know I have a habit of rambling on and I am sorry and I apologize. But, yet again I am hyper and there is no-one here to talk to. Oh, and Nienna, you have my support about splitting the Official Language Thread up into *<img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> Sindarin <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> * or Quenya. I think that it a great idea! I am officially going to stop typing now...BYE!!!! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0>

by **NiennaSorrowing** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 11:43 pm

The writing on the title pages of LotR and the Silmarillion (and HoME, if it comes to that) are in Tengwar, thegypsy. Strictly speaking, that's a transliteration, not a translation, because the language is English, you just need to switch alphabets. Follow the instructions for deciphering Tengwar found in the first post. The common Tengwar chart is found in Appendix E of your LotR. (The Appendicies are at the end of the volume if you have a one volume version, or at the end of RotK if you have a three volume version. Or not there at all if you have some crappy translation.)

by **Didi** » Fri Feb 28, 2003 3:19 pm

my silmarillion cover shows the names of all the chaptertitles in it, in QUENYA ill give them when i find it agaiin since i have it in my room and its late here i m going to sleep and such

by **ccmsOrlilvr** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 1:16 pm

hey you guys...um i was wondering if somebody could tell me how to pronounce my name in quenyan. I have the name I just don't know how it would be said...the name is "Encaitare" please post soon and let me know!

by **satch** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 12:06 pm

if you look on the first lesson on the quenya course on Ardalambion.com it tells you... its a bit long though! *bump* btw Nienna... if you ever come here... i don't know if you can edit the titles of threads, but it'd probably be good to make this one's stand out a bit better because it seems to be being ignored quite a bit. •·.·´¯`·.·•I am pro kats, oranges, llamas and BEANS!!!...oh and elderberries & goop•·.·´¯`·.·•

by **NiennaSorrowing** » Sun May 25, 2003 9:07 pm

I'm not claiming to be back full time, but it is summer so I should have a bit more time to help keep things clean around here. Firt job being bumping this FAQ.

by **The_Lady_Lalaith** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 11:15 pm

Hey there! I tried reading the FAQ about Elvish and Elbereth's idea about adopting novices in elvish was inspiring. However, when I tried posting on the thread, it wasn't working. Any idea if another one like it exists? Let me know! Just kidding, it's working now. Silly me.

by **Tulkas_The_Valiant** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 1:26 pm

I dunno if this has been addressed or not, since I'm incredibly lazy, and didn't feel like scrolling through all 11 pages (I did read the first post...) But I have found a rather useful Roman-Tengwa/Tengwar Roman Transcriber... I also found Dragon Flame, (Downloadable here <a target=new href="http://www.jrrvf.com/~hisweloke/sindar/documents/download.html">http://www.jrrvf.com/~hisweloke/sindar/documents/download.html</a>) Unlike the Grey Company stuff, it is real Elvish, and checks out with Ardalambion resources. Also, if anyone is interested, I made a program for a computer ISU that gives an English/Elvish word, and you give the equivalent. If anyone wants the link, just say.

by **LadyGollum** » Wed Jun 18, 2003 9:44 am

i clicked on something on elvish.org and i took me to this sight that was called chriswetherwell.com/elf and it translated my name into elvish and hobbit! if eanyone knows what i am talking about please email me at psycho_sopranoky@lycos.com

by **satch** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 9:51 am

LadyGollum, um what are you talking about?? You got your name translated and..?? Sorry if I sound rude but I don't really know where you're heading with this. Bumping up...

by **varda6** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 10:53 am

what does "Dolle naa lost" mean?

by **ssmsBakshilvr** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 9:25 pm

Varda try the Quenya thread. Bumping this because people in this forum don't seem to be able to read...

by **EiltDruin** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 11:33 pm

Thank you for this Thread.

by **Legolas_is_hot** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:55 am

that still don't answer my question.i can't find any of those books anywhere and i just want to know the easy phrases.if u could tell me a few words in Elvish,i would be very glad.please email me(and please don't send me a bunch of junk)at:sailorvenusfan01@sailormoon.com

by **Breogan** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:01 am

Legolas_is_hot Forget about the books recomended by Nienna and start visiting the sites she provided URLs and links to. You can get a taste of Elvish here and come across easy phrases if thats all you need. If you want to take things further, then you may consider buying the books. ~Breogán, i vornelleth~ Awarthannen af falas thrúnen hen

by **Didi** » Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:39 am

LotR Vol. I Book 1 (page 191 in my version), there they say Tom Bombadil is singing something in a very old language that none of the hobbits understand, anyone know which language is meant? <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>

by **Breogan** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 7:34 pm

Shouldnt the FAQ be on top of the Language Forum ALL THE TIME so we can avoid many posts from new people asking the smae questions over and over again?

by **Breogan** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:01 pm

*Bump* (for new TORCers)

by **Didi** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:25 am

still hoping on a reply <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>

by **Gilraen7** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:55 pm

All right, it's stupid question time. I read the sticky/FAQ thread and went to the link. Accessed my name (Eleanor). Now, there is a flower by almost that same name in ROTK.....Sam's daughter's name. So does the definition that I received (and already knew...it is derived from Helen)indicate that Eleanor IS the Elvish translation, so that there isn't one? That's fine, if that is so. I am just confused. (a common state for me!). I just cannot believe that elanor and Eleanor are so far apart, entymologically speaking that they wouldn't be "related". bottom line: does my name mean white flower? (in all forms of Elvish) Sorry to bother you all, but I have no idea where exactly to put this question. thanks for your time.

by **Eowyn37** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:54 pm

I haven't been able to find the elvish name for Dana anywhere, can anyone help me?

by **Breogan** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:27 pm

Gliraen37 I reckon this question belongs to the Quenya and Sindarin translation threads, but anyway... <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Yes, Eleanor is a variant of Greek Helen which means "ray/sunbeam", therefore it would be Q. Alcie S. Glinanor Elanor, Sam's daughter's name, does not mean "white flower" at all, but "star-sun" in Sindarin (Q. elanar)because of its golden and silver flowers. Don't know what name list or translator you used but it is definitely wrong about your name. Maybe the mistake has something to do with the very similar morphology of both names? Eowyn37 Same thing, this belongs to the Quenya and Sindarin translation threads <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> Anyway, Dana could be a variant of Daniela or Danielle which means "God is my judge" Q. Eruname S. Eruvadhiel / Eruvadhriel or Russian Bogdana "gift from God" Q. Eruanne S. Eruantiel ~Breogán, i vornelleth~ Man cenitha i-aduial vedui?

by **Gilraen7** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:21 am

Thank you so much Breogan! I think I got confused b/c the name elanor is used for a small white flower in ROTK. Glinanor.....not bad; I've been called worse! lol I would love to do this the "right" way and study it etc., but between kids, work and school.....not enough time in the day. So thanks again! Could I ask you to do Laura, Robert and John? Or am I a PIA?! have a great day!

by **Breogan** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:45 am

Gilraen37, I'll post the translations on the Official Sindarin Translation thread, ok? ~Breogán, i vornelleth~ Man cenitha i-aduial vedui?

by **Gilraen7** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:14 pm

Yes, and thanks again!

by **Helkabeleth** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:07 am

a few recommendations, take 'em or leave 'em!

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Taramiluiel's Home

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Mmm, that's about all I can think of for now. Thanks for making this thread! Any chance it can get a sticky?

by **Gil-Estel** » Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:19 pm

I can have an Elvish greeting/ blessing cast in stone for the courtyard of my friends' new building. It can't be very long and not in Tengwar. Any suggestions for something suitable? I have considered Suilad, mellyn but am open for suggestions. It is a unique opportunity. My friends are physical therapists and many people will get a chance to see this.

by **Idhren** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 11:05 am

The translation is posted on the Sindarin Thread.

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