Gungnir wrote:I watched it with my wife. When Legolas said 'These bats were bred with one purpose', both of us said, 'To destroy the world of men!'
Which means two things... (1) we have both watched LOTR too many times and (2) PJ's scriptwriting team have a limited vocabulary.
Other than that, the trailer looked OK I suppose but Bilbo was an almost incidental character again. Message to PJ - the book was called 'The Hobbit' not 'The Dwarf'.
I too love the trailer, but I can't help imagining Saruman saying "I'll wave my staff at you and you duck behind a rock. I'll call you later on the Palantir! Mkay?"
Shadowman82 wrote:I too love the trailer, but I can't help imagining Saruman saying "I'll wave my staff at you and you duck behind a rock. I'll call you later on the Palantir! Mkay?"
Well we do know from the LOTR novel that they were able to drive The Necromancer/Sauron out of Dol Guldur with a device of Saruman . While I think it's more likely Saruman will simply use magic against Sauron rather than any device in the movie I don't doubt that he will battle Sauron and win .
Given that in PJ's words Galadriel will "kick Sauron's arse a little bit" I would have some doubt about how that Saruman confrontation pans out. Clearly Elrond is not idle either. And who deals with the Nazgul? I think this will be very much a joint council effort in the end product.
portia wrote: The story is about Thorin and Bilbo, the size of the armies is barely relevant.
"That will be the last we shall hear of Thorin Oakenshield, I fear," said the king. "He would have done better to have remained my guest. It is an ill wind, all the same," he added, "that blows no one any good." For he too had not forgotten the legend of the wealth of Thror. So it was that Bard's messengers found him now marching with many spearmen and bowmen; and crows were gathered thick, above him, for they thought that war was awakening again, such as had not been in those parts for a long age.
Besides, there are only 13 (or 10) Dwarves in Erebor, so why so many ranked against them?
portia wrote:As to PJ apparent efforts to make this fight part of his takeover efforts, I do not buy it, beyond the limited idea that if the dragon, or the Goblins, take the area, Sauron will not have to worry about the North. But I didn't get the idea from LOTR that he worried about the North, anyway. From a marketing point of view, there is some reason to the effort, but not from the story. PJ may have become convinced that he had to inflate the storyline to attract customers. He might be right, but a lot is lost by that effort, IMO.
solicitr wrote:Barf.
Voronwe wrote:Lovely to see that your ability to express yourself courteously and intelligently has remained consistent.
ToshoftheWuffingas wrote:Good to see you again Semprini.
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