M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

[Eucatastrophe]

"The Sea bell", a poem by JRRT. Referring to Frodo's dreams during his last days in the Shire.

[scirocco]

Quite right, a trick question based on the specific spelling of "Dreme" rather than "Dream" to refer to the poem as opposed to any specific dream.

Your turn...

[Eucatastrophe]

Alright!

In which of Tolkien's NON Middle-earth works are "barrow-wights" mentioned?

[Denethor]

Purely as a guess - Farmer Giles of Ham?

[scirocco]

I will guess "The Homecoming of Beorthnoth Beorthelm's Son". Seems to ring a bell with the discussion about death that goes on.

[Eucatastrophe]

Aye, you got it.

From "Homecoming"

"And your eyes fancied barrow-wights and bogies. It's a black darkness since the moon foundered; but mark my words: not far from here we'll find the master, by all accounts."

Scirocco's turn.

[scirocco]

OK, thank you.

Who wrote the Akallabeth?

[Denethor]

Elendil (one-sided propaganda that ever there was. )

[scirocco]

Absolutely, I'm sure Ar-Pharazon's version would have looked very different.

Your turn...

[Denethor]

Doegred Winsterhand is better known as what?

[Eucatastrophe]

It means Daybreak Left-handed and refers to Maedhros.

[Denethor]

Correct. Your turn.

[Eucatastrophe]

Very sorry for the delay!


Behold! the man who brought
the legends back to life
but of his deeds
only few Tales tell
'cause the Creator
disowned him
and it was his destiny
to be buried in dust.


Who's the person?

[scirocco]

Sounds Beowulf-ish.

But I'm not sure Tolkien would ever write " 'cause the Creator".

Confused.

[wilko185]

I suspect this is more of a riddle than it is a straight trivia question. If so, there may be more than one answer, arguably?

[Eucatastrophe]

Yes and yes. (I had someone specific in mind but I guess there can be other fitting answers too)

[Denethor]

Is it a reference to Tolkien himself?

[Denethor]

I take it none of the guesses thus far are correct?

[RAY]

Hmm, I would think that the creator must be Eru.? He disowned someone and this person or his works or both are literally buried in dust.! Thats my first take on this.

[Denethor]

Eucatastrophe: any chance you can give us a hint?

[heliona]

I'd suggest moving on, since the question wasn't really a trivia question but rather a riddle, and Eucastrophe seems to have disappeared! If they come back, perhaps the mystery of the riddle can be solved. In the meantime...

What happened in the place known as Wellinghall?

[scirocco]

Water welled up?

[heliona]

Well, yes. But what is it most known for in the context of Middle-earth history?

[scirocco]

Sorry, I should have been more specific. No just any water welling up, but the source of the Entwash, a symbolic and emblematic river in the history of Calenardhon. And Wellinghall seems to have been held in respect by the Ents - it was one of Treebeard's dwellings.

Oh and Treebeard took Merry and Pippin to stay there one day during the War of the Ring.

[heliona]

This is all true. Not quite the answer I was looking for. Perhaps I should have been more specific. What happened to Merry and Pippin there? (Although I know you know the answer. )

[scirocco]

The drafts that Treebeard gave Merry and Pippin from the water there caused them to grow and their hair to turn curly.
And the Entmoot which resulted in the downfall of Saruman was held not all that far away

Can't think of anything else...

[heliona]

What I'd been thinking of was Treebeard giving Merry and Pippin the Ent-draught. Anyway, you've answered the question exceedingly thoroughly, so it's definitely over to you.

[scirocco]

Thank you heliona.

We all know that there were three unions of the Eldar and the Edain (or four, or five, depending on which tradition you believe, although that's another argument. )

But how many unions of the Eldar and the Hobbits were there said to be? And who was involved?

[solicitr]

Thank you heliona.

We all know that there were three unions of the Eldar and the Edain (or four, or five, depending on which tradition you believe, although that's another argument. )

But how many unions of the Eldar and the Hobbits were there said to be? And who was involved?

In The Hobbit, Shire gossip claimed that one of the Tooks had taken a "fairy" wife- although the narrator quickly dismisses it as nonsense "of course."

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As for the "other argument," Mithrellas was a Silvan Elf and thus not of the Eldar.

[scirocco]

"One of the Tooks" is correct. And there certainly are grounds for regarding Imrazor and Mithrellas as a one night stand rather than a proper "union" in the sense that JRRT would have approved of.

The floor is yours, solicitr.