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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby Eucatastrophe » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:45 am

"The Sea bell", a poem by JRRT. Referring to Frodo's dreams during his last days in the Shire.
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby scirocco » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:45 pm

Quite right, a trick question based on the specific spelling of "Dreme" rather than "Dream" to refer to the poem as opposed to any specific dream.

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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby Eucatastrophe » Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:00 am

Alright!

In which of Tolkien's NON Middle-earth works are "barrow-wights" mentioned?
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby Denethor » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:28 am

Purely as a guess - Farmer Giles of Ham?
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby scirocco » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:26 am

I will guess "The Homecoming of Beorthnoth Beorthelm's Son". Seems to ring a bell with the discussion about death that goes on.
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby Eucatastrophe » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:08 pm

Aye, you got it.

From "Homecoming"

"And your eyes fancied barrow-wights and bogies. It's a black darkness since the moon foundered; but mark my words: not far from here we'll find the master, by all accounts."


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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby scirocco » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:23 pm

OK, thank you.

Who wrote the Akallabeth?
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby Denethor » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:48 pm

Elendil (one-sided propaganda that ever there was. :P)
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby scirocco » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:23 pm

Absolutely, I'm sure Ar-Pharazon's version would have looked very different. :)

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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby Denethor » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:08 am

Doegred Winsterhand is better known as what?
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby Eucatastrophe » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:31 am

It means Daybreak Left-handed and refers to Maedhros.
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby Denethor » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:26 am

Correct. Your turn.
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby Eucatastrophe » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:26 am

Very sorry for the delay!


Behold! the man who brought
the legends back to life
but of his deeds
only few Tales tell
'cause the Creator
disowned him
and it was his destiny
to be buried in dust.


Who's the person?
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby scirocco » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:30 am

Sounds Beowulf-ish.

But I'm not sure Tolkien would ever write " 'cause the Creator".

Confused. :)
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby wilko185 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:11 am

I suspect this is more of a riddle than it is a straight trivia question. If so, there may be more than one answer, arguably?
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby Eucatastrophe » Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:23 am

Yes and yes. :D (I had someone specific in mind but I guess there can be other fitting answers too)
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby Denethor » Sat Jul 02, 2016 9:37 pm

Is it a reference to Tolkien himself?
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby Denethor » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:14 pm

I take it none of the guesses thus far are correct?
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby RAY » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:17 am

Hmm, I would think that the creator must be Eru.? He disowned someone and this person or his works or both are literally buried in dust.! Thats my first take on this.
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby Denethor » Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:57 pm

Eucatastrophe: any chance you can give us a hint?
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby heliona » Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:54 am

I'd suggest moving on, since the question wasn't really a trivia question but rather a riddle, and Eucastrophe seems to have disappeared! If they come back, perhaps the mystery of the riddle can be solved. In the meantime...

What happened in the place known as Wellinghall?
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby scirocco » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:07 am

Water welled up? :)
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby heliona » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:09 pm

Well, yes. :D But what is it most known for in the context of Middle-earth history?
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby scirocco » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:53 am

Sorry, I should have been more specific. No just any water welling up, but the source of the Entwash, a symbolic and emblematic river in the history of Calenardhon. And Wellinghall seems to have been held in respect by the Ents - it was one of Treebeard's dwellings.

Oh and Treebeard took Merry and Pippin to stay there one day during the War of the Ring. :)
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby heliona » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:58 am

This is all true. Not quite the answer I was looking for. Perhaps I should have been more specific. :D What happened to Merry and Pippin there? (Although I know you know the answer. :D )
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby scirocco » Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:53 am

The drafts that Treebeard gave Merry and Pippin from the water there caused them to grow and their hair to turn curly.
And the Entmoot which resulted in the downfall of Saruman was held not all that far away

Can't think of anything else...:)
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby heliona » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:20 pm

What I'd been thinking of was Treebeard giving Merry and Pippin the Ent-draught. Anyway, you've answered the question exceedingly thoroughly, so it's definitely over to you. :)
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby scirocco » Sat Nov 05, 2016 4:39 am

Thank you heliona.

We all know that there were three unions of the Eldar and the Edain (or four, or five, depending on which tradition you believe, although that's another argument. :) )

But how many unions of the Eldar and the Hobbits were there said to be? And who was involved?
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby solicitr » Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:58 pm

scirocco wrote:Thank you heliona.

We all know that there were three unions of the Eldar and the Edain (or four, or five, depending on which tradition you believe, although that's another argument. :) )

But how many unions of the Eldar and the Hobbits were there said to be? And who was involved?


In The Hobbit, Shire gossip claimed that one of the Tooks had taken a "fairy" wife- although the narrator quickly dismisses it as nonsense "of course."

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As for the "other argument," Mithrellas was a Silvan Elf and thus not of the Eldar. ;-)
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Re: M-E & Tolkien Trivia (Third Continuation Thread)

Postby scirocco » Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:38 am

"One of the Tooks" is correct. And there certainly are grounds for regarding Imrazor and Mithrellas as a one night stand rather than a proper "union" in the sense that JRRT would have approved of. :)

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