Well hi everyone! It's been quite a long time. Seems like there are still a few familiar faces here.
A bit of unexpected and potentially fascinating news -- the thread title says it all.
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/lord-of ... 202606519/
oldtoby wrote:your name isnt new. how do we know that you are you? maybe you are just some new person, some ruffian who killed Tele and took his clothes? what are your thoughts on squint eyed southerners? hmmm? hmmm!!!???
Thewhitetree wrote:Iiiiiiinteresting... I guess the real question here is yet again: Tom Bombadil or NO Tom Bombadil?
bornilon wrote:Absolutely fascinating. So it's to be a prequel? And Amazon was approached by the Tolkien Estate for this venture? The mind boggles...
Set in Middle Earth, the television adaptation will explore new storylines preceding “The Fellowship of the Ring.” The deal also includes a potential additional spin-off series .... “Sharon and the team at Amazon Studios have exceptional ideas to bring to the screen previously unexplored stories based on J.R.R. Tolkien’s original writings.”
Denethor wrote:The most interesting thing is the involvement of the Tolkien Estate. Christopher Tolkien of all people must have approved this.
Which, seeing as the only clue we have is that this TV series is set prior to Rings, leads me to possibly guess at a stab at the Silmarillion or Numenor - with Christopher having some sort of veto power. I honestly can't imagine the Estate having anything to do with a fanficcy series.
Telemachos wrote:According to TORN, CT just resigned from the Tolkien Estate:
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2017/11 ... en-estate/
Another important thing to note here, and another piece of the puzzle, is that the television rights to “The Hobbit” and “Lord of the Rings” were NOT sold when J.R.R. Tolkien sold the movie rights in 1969. Those rights were for motion pictures. ...
This opens up Tolkien and Middle-earth as possible franchises in the same way that Harry Potter’s world is a place you can visit at Universal Studios or that Disney will soon have a Star Wars area. There are few properties in the world that can be talked about in the same way as Middle-earth. Warner Bros. see the value and so does Amazon. ...
That doesn’t mean the Tolkien Estate will move toward making the rights to “Beren And Luthien” available but it does mean my wish to produce “The Silmarillion” as HBO series is slightly less impossible than it was before. That is what has changed really. Things once impossible are now possible.
The estate may elect to only allow more content based solely on “The Hobbit” and “The Lord of the Rings.” Or they may carefully cultivate the entire library.
Telemachos wrote:According to TORN, CT just resigned from the Tolkien Estate:
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2017/11 ... en-estate/
Early reports indicate that the first Amazon television series will probably be set between the events of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings ...
Amazon doesn’t need to have rights to everything in the Tolkien arcana to milk this material for decades. They just need the appendices and creative license to “fill in the gaps”.
Telemachos wrote:Denethor wrote:The most interesting thing is the involvement of the Tolkien Estate. Christopher Tolkien of all people must have approved this.
Which, seeing as the only clue we have is that this TV series is set prior to Rings, leads me to possibly guess at a stab at the Silmarillion or Numenor - with Christopher having some sort of veto power. I honestly can't imagine the Estate having anything to do with a fanficcy series.
According to TORN, CT just resigned from the Tolkien Estate:
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2017/11 ... en-estate/
notlistening wrote:As Tooks said elsewhere, this will probably turn us all into raging purists.
After the mess that was made of Shannara Chronicle and Legend of the Seeker series, they will need very good script writers.
PS: Nice to see you Tele!
notlistening wrote:As Tooks said elsewhere, this will probably turn us all into raging purists.
After the mess that was made of Shannara Chronicle and Legend of the Seeker series, they will need very good script writers.
PS: Nice to see you Tele!
In historic move, Christopher Tolkien resigns as director of Tolkien Estate
ngaur wrote:So the world hasn't tired of the sword and sorcery epics yet.In historic move, Christopher Tolkien resigns as director of Tolkien Estate
Is Christopher Tolkiens resignation considered historic because it happened more than two months ago? Because of the deal with Amazon? Because he spent the last decade not selling the Silmarillion rights? (In the decades before the LotRs movies I can't imagine anyone beeing the least bit interested in making a Silmarillion series.)
Anyway, with the money Amazon is forking out for this I expect we'll have prodigious production coming our way.
In a number of years or so.
solicitr wrote:It would be interesting to know the dynamic going on with the Tolkien Estate. Did Christopher retire, and then the more money-hungry members made their move? Was he forced out? Did he resign in disgust when it was clear he couldn't stop it?
I wouldn't exclude the possibility that the family's lawyers started using that ominous phrase "fiduciary duty," as the number of the Professor's great-grandchildren of legal age continued to increase. An executor or trustee is under a legal obligation to increase the value of the estate or trust, and (at least in Anglo-American law), "value" is measured entirely in cash, not taste.
The involvement of New Line argues for some sort of tie-in to the Jacksonverse. Anything First Age is still out, for now, since Christopher as co-author holds absolute veto over that material.
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