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rwhen
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:29 am Reply with quoteReplyTopBottom
PCE Thread of Denial - 7th Act!

Okay this is our seventh version of the PCE thread, remember to not let your PCE slips show and also remember the reason we are here:

(from the original thread)

You know it, you don't admit it, but you know it.

Now is the time to come on out of that little envious emerald closet that you live in and tell the whole world. People have been wondering why you walk about with that greenish cast eminating from your aura.

If you look at your checkbook, all those thousands and thousands of dollars on therapy to get over it, just hasn't helped one bit and hey you could have gone to every moot on the planet for that money.

The personalized license plate "HONK4PCE" is just pathetic.

Oh and the tell tell sign? "Please pity my low post count. I try so hard."

Listen, it takes effort, loss of family, sleep, job and sanity to get that ring(or double ring). If you are not up to the task then at least admit it. You are totally screamin' green with envy at those who do.

Oh and yeah, all you "ringers"? BACK OFF BOOGALOO. We see you, all bright and shiny, showin' off to the world. "Look at me, look at me." Pffffft. As if we had any other choice.

Well here is your chance. It is easy and I will help you along.

Just step up to the mic, take it with confidence, say your name and state your problem.

"Hello, my name is Rwhen and I have POST COUNT ENVY."

This attempt at humor is not directed to anyone high or low, big or small - tall or short, this additive is for political correctness even though I know you ALL suffer this affliction!

Current members of the PCE denial group:

rwhen Razz
Vanadarlin'
Iris
Ayslhyn
heliona
Mithnen
Tyggies
Rowanberry
Rose friend
Frelga Lady
Erinhue
Sil
Lewie
Eru
Elsha
Elfy
Ugluk
Luthy
Tooks
Dubs
COCK ROBIN
Fir-Bolg
Rodia
Bardy

And the one who denies it and will go to the grave doing so:

oldtoby!!

 

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Overwhelmed by your support and appreciation. Thank you. - 2008 WCA's

The Expected Party!! is now on the road to Gondor to celebrate. Join us.

Also trying to get Tyg and Maedhros wed.

and getting into trouble with Rally The Eldar.

Time out of Mind, forever bound to my Knight Ayslhyn


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Post Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:31 am Reply with quoteReplyTopBottom


Darn tootin'!!!!

dont have it, never had it, will never have it,

and you'll never prove otherwise. Razz

 

I give up
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:37 am Reply with quoteReplyTopBottom


I DO NOT have PCE!

Don't, don't, don't, don't, DON'T!!!!!!!!!!

Razz

But I do have a gripe...

Sit down children, I'll try to make this as short as possible. Went to a committee meeting last night for the sewer authority I cover. During the meeting the chairman of the authority told me I had misquoted him in last week's article. It was a bad misquote too...it made him sound like a jerk and a half. I felt terrible.

Until I got to work this morning and found out that it wasn't my fault...someone changed the wording!!! Very Angry It was just one word, but you know, one word can change an entire sentence, or paragraph, or half an article. And he got angry phone calls on it too.

Now, seriously, if what I had written hadn't made any sense, that would be one thing (um, hello, please ask me if you don't understand.) But the sentence made sense, so why the heck did they change it??? (and I don't know who it was, btw).

So I spent part of my morning, when I wasn't writing articles, doing damage control. Rolling Eyes Sadly, the people who made the nasty phone calls probably won't read tonight's article to see the fix.

Ok, I'm done throwing fits now! Razz

Where's the chocolate?

Where' s the rum?

Hey! Chocolate rum! This is my kind of place! Big Grin

 

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rwhen
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:15 am Reply with quoteReplyTopBottom


toby, I know you don't mind me havin' some fun with ya!!


Iris, well that would get on my last nerve too. Glad you got it sorted out. Now have some coffee and relax a bit. Big Grin

 

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I will always treasure and remember your appreciation. Thank you. -2007 WCA's
Overwhelmed by your support and appreciation. Thank you. - 2008 WCA's

The Expected Party!! is now on the road to Gondor to celebrate. Join us.

Also trying to get Tyg and Maedhros wed.

and getting into trouble with Rally The Eldar.

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Yeah, I've worked through the worst of my anger. Smile I'm going to treat myself to a specialty coffee later, I think. Wink

I had the email address of the one committee member, so I asked him to email Jeff for me and explain what I found out. He forwarded my email to Jeff, so I think the last I'll hear of it will be an email from Jeff...if he feels like responding. Otherwise, we'll talk about it next month.

It disgusts me that I do the work, do my best, and someone else comes along and screws it up!

I don't know why, but that's kinda funny! Laughing

So how's the temperature in your neck of the woods, rwhen? And the chili? Big Grin

 

<----- For some time I had suspected Reginald of wrong doing. Now I believe my own life to be in danger.









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Yesterday was very hot, today is to be mid 70's and tomorrow will be in the low 80's. After that it is getting lower and lower and lower. On Tuesday the high is supposed to be 64. Shocked

The Chili thing is going okay, stressful for everyone as the open date for the restaurant gets closer and closer. But for me, I just can't wait until it does open. That way no later than 10am my niece and brother will be gone from the office all day Monday through Friday!! Big Grin Sweeeeeet for me.

 

Love is as big or as little as a hug!!

I will always treasure and remember your appreciation. Thank you. -2007 WCA's
Overwhelmed by your support and appreciation. Thank you. - 2008 WCA's

The Expected Party!! is now on the road to Gondor to celebrate. Join us.

Also trying to get Tyg and Maedhros wed.

and getting into trouble with Rally The Eldar.

Time out of Mind, forever bound to my Knight Ayslhyn
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:00 am Reply with quoteReplyTopBottom


Big Grin

You gotta love the simple things in life, huh?

Yeah, we're going to get a cool down next week. It's 70s now...50s in just a few days! Shocked

Okay, off to lunch and other things. Talk to you all later! Big Grin

 

<----- For some time I had suspected Reginald of wrong doing. Now I believe my own life to be in danger.









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Post Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:18 am Reply with quoteReplyTopBottom


*peeks in* PCE? Nah... well, maybe.. just a little bit ....



Iris.. that would upset me to the core. Something like that could really cause an uproar in a community. I hope it all gets straightened away!

 

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Actually, I think my post count envy has more or less entirely disappeared. Razz Which is not altogether a *good* thing, though...
 

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:28 am Reply with quoteReplyTopBottom


No, it's not... it seems attaining goals tends to do that to people.

Nice to see you around Ugluk!


*Rosie makes note that 'Hue beat her to the last post on the old thread anyway*
D'oh!

 

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*puts sunglasses on*

Ooh, everything is so new and shiny...

Iris, you've got my sympathy. Hug I also hate it when I have to suffer because of someone else's stupidity, which has happened, nothing as major as in your case though. Lightning

Hey, I think I saw an Uruk here? Smile

 

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Ugluk!!!!! Grand ta see you on thread and you need to reply to my last PM please. Need ta know how to route myself on Saturday. Wink


Yeah. New digs. And Rose friend, the moderator who closed the thread COULD have been the last poster at the old joint, so maybe that moderator LET Hue be the last post. Just sayin'. Razz Wink

Rowanberry, nice shades!! Big Grin

 

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I will always treasure and remember your appreciation. Thank you. -2007 WCA's
Overwhelmed by your support and appreciation. Thank you. - 2008 WCA's

The Expected Party!! is now on the road to Gondor to celebrate. Join us.

Also trying to get Tyg and Maedhros wed.

and getting into trouble with Rally The Eldar.

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Hooray for new thread!

And I DON'T have PCE! Rolling Eyes Just because everyone else that posts here has infinitely higher post counts doesn't mean that I want them too. Who needs shiny rings? Laughing

Iris, I would be so mad at the people who messed up the wording and made YOU look like a jerk when it wasn't you fault.

 

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:12 pm Reply with quoteReplyTopBottom


rwhen ... ooooOOOOhhhhooooo... that puts a new spin on things... Wink
 

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Indeed Rose. Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin I can see that you have already figured it out, so nanner nanner. Wink

Hey Eru. I know that when you leave for the day, we all sit around and talk about your raging PCE. I mean, go ahead and try to deny it, but we know the truth. You want a shineh so bad that you have plotted stealing Vanadarlin's from her. Big Grin

Wink Hug

 

Love is as big or as little as a hug!!

I will always treasure and remember your appreciation. Thank you. -2007 WCA's
Overwhelmed by your support and appreciation. Thank you. - 2008 WCA's

The Expected Party!! is now on the road to Gondor to celebrate. Join us.

Also trying to get Tyg and Maedhros wed.

and getting into trouble with Rally The Eldar.

Time out of Mind, forever bound to my Knight Ayslhyn
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Erufailon.Atanvarno said:


Iris, I would be so mad at the people who messed up the wording and made YOU look like a jerk when it wasn't you fault.
Especially when the person who was misquoted is someone you have a crush on.

Whistling

Ah, well, lesson learned. Read your article after it's printed, dope-slap those who screw up things, get on with your life.

Big Grin

Ugluk, you're due for another ring, I think. Get to work! Big Grin

 

<----- For some time I had suspected Reginald of wrong doing. Now I believe my own life to be in danger.









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rwhen said:

Ugluk!!!!! Grand ta see you on thread and you need to reply to my last PM please. Need ta know how to route myself on Saturday. Wink



I did actually reply to your last PM. And then I just sent you ANOTHER PM. So you have two of them to reply to now, get to work. Razz

 

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Uh, been there, done that. Wink I be fast!! Look forward to meeting you Ugluk. We will have some fun in da city!! Big Grin


Iris, I wasn't aware that it was HIM that this happened to. Sorry!! But then again, more reason to talk with him. Big Grin

 

Love is as big or as little as a hug!!

I will always treasure and remember your appreciation. Thank you. -2007 WCA's
Overwhelmed by your support and appreciation. Thank you. - 2008 WCA's

The Expected Party!! is now on the road to Gondor to celebrate. Join us.

Also trying to get Tyg and Maedhros wed.

and getting into trouble with Rally The Eldar.

Time out of Mind, forever bound to my Knight Ayslhyn
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Sure, sure. Whatever helps you sleep at night, rwhen.
 

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What helps me sleep at night is a very big RUM AND COKE!! Wink Thanks for the updates.


Almost outta here. 25 minutes ta go.

 

Love is as big or as little as a hug!!

I will always treasure and remember your appreciation. Thank you. -2007 WCA's
Overwhelmed by your support and appreciation. Thank you. - 2008 WCA's

The Expected Party!! is now on the road to Gondor to celebrate. Join us.

Also trying to get Tyg and Maedhros wed.

and getting into trouble with Rally The Eldar.

Time out of Mind, forever bound to my Knight Ayslhyn
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Mayhap it is not post count envy that applies, but merely the Roman influence. I have but recently passed the 1,000 mark, or M in Roman numerals. Look at that description. There is little scope to roll it round the mouth. It is 'M', short, curt, an expression of impatience, bordering on displeasure.

Now, examine the 'ringbearers', the 10,000 posts and more. How is their magnificent total transcribed into Latinate? MMMMMMMMMM. Let that be savoured, expressions of delight, exuberance, satisfaction. It is the description of pleasures past, pleasures present, and pleasures still to come!

Mmmmmmmmmm...Wink

 

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Mmmmm! Smile

Chocolate Rum, rwhen?

Does that even exist?

We should make it exist!

Been coughing all day...actually started yesterday with what I thought was congestion...I'm beginning to think it's bronchitis. Rolling Eyes

I do not have time for this!

 

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YOU LIE!! *throws shoes at Fir-Bolg*

Hug Grand to see you on thread Fir-Bolg!!! But we have found that the more you protest, the more you have raging MMMMMMMMMMMPCE!! Hey it is hard for everyone at first. It is baby steps, friend.

But glad you at least jumped the broom and clicked on that thingie called "Talk". Brave soul that you are.

We tend to be sorta, let your hair down, kinda folk. But I can priss with the best of 'em!!

Welcome.

Please all welcome Fir-Bolg to the PCE thread of denial. And didn't he start off well? Denial rolls so easily off the lips, doesn't it.

 

Love is as big or as little as a hug!!

I will always treasure and remember your appreciation. Thank you. -2007 WCA's
Overwhelmed by your support and appreciation. Thank you. - 2008 WCA's

The Expected Party!! is now on the road to Gondor to celebrate. Join us.

Also trying to get Tyg and Maedhros wed.

and getting into trouble with Rally The Eldar.

Time out of Mind, forever bound to my Knight Ayslhyn
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Well although it seems an age since i last posted i always try to make the first page of a new PCE thread just so you don't forget I'm still around and still in envy *sigh* Big Grin

Nice new place Rwhen, who was the decorator?? Wink


Uggies!!!! Give us a huggies!!! It's been sooooo long Wink Twisted Evil

 

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Thank you Rwhen Hug
(You know what for) Wink
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:GLOMPS Tygs: Heya lady! How've ya been?!

"Welcome to the PCE Fir-Bolg" *Rosie does a hobbit curtsey*

 

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I have been great Rose, hows about you??? Smile Actually I was hoping to catch you around, I was wanting to swap address for Xmas cards if you wanted to *shuffles feet and with head down looks up at Rose through batting eyelashes shyly* so if you want email me; tygarya AT hotmail.com Big Grin and you will get a special card all the way from New Zealand to show off to your friends and family Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin
 

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Embarrassed "I'd love to m'lady Tygs" *Rose ends up falling after doing one too many hobbit curtsy's* "Consider it done!"
 

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Tygarya said:

Uggies!!!! Give us a huggies!!! It's been sooooo long Wink Twisted Evil



I don't know about "huggies", but I will settle for a knuckle-bump. Please thoroughly clean your hands with a moist towelette beforehand.



Wink

 

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Iris, ouch, that was frustrating! Hope damage control controls most damage.

I don't have PCE. If I had PCE, I'd have sported that blue spiky wheelie deelie by now instead of doing silly stuff like work, housework, and sleep.

 

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I must have PCE because my mother thinks that I belong to a cult. Yes.. she thinks ToRC is a cult. Sad
 

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