'The Fall of Gondolin' listed for August 2018

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'The Fall of Gondolin' listed for August 2018

Postby Otaku-sempai » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:30 pm

The Fall of Gondolin Paperback(Large type edition)
By J. R. R. Tolkien, Illustrated by Alan Lee

Available for pre-sale now.

In the Tale of The Fall of Gondolin are two of the greatest powers in the world. There is Morgoth of the uttermost evil, unseen in this story but ruling over a vast military power from his fortress of Angband. Deeply opposed to Morgoth is Ulmo, second in might only to Manwë, chief of the Valar.
Central to this enmity of the gods is the city of Gondolin, beautiful but undiscoverable. It was built and peopled by Noldorin Elves who, when they dwelt in Valinor, the land of the gods, rebelled against their rule and fled to Middle-earth. Turgon King of Gondolin is hated and feared above all his enemies by Morgoth, who seeks in vain to discover the marvellously hidden city, while the gods in Valinor in heated debate largely refuse to intervene in support of Ulmo's desires and designs.

Into this world comes Tuor, cousin of Trin, the instrument of Ulmo's designs. Guided unseen by him Tuor sets out from the land of his birth on the fearful journey to Gondolin, and in one of the most arresting moments in the history of Middle-earth the sea-god himself appears to him, rising out of the ocean in the midst of a storm. In Gondolin he becomes great; he is wedded to Idril, Turgon's daughter, and their son is Erendel, whose birth and profound importance in days to come is foreseen by Ulmo.

At last comes the terrible ending. Morgoth learns through an act of supreme treachery all that he needs to mount a devastating attack on the city, with Balrogs and dragons and numberless Orcs. After a minutely observed account of the fall of Gondolin, the tale ends with the escape of Trin and Idril, with the child Erendel, looking back from a cleft in the mountains as they flee southward, at the blazing wreckage of their city. They were journeying into a new story, the Tale of Erendel, which Tolkien never wrote, but which is sketched out in this book from other sources.

Following his presentation of Beren and Lthien Christopher Tolkien has used the same 'history in sequence' mode in the writing of this edition of The Fall of Gondolin. In the words of J.R.R. Tolkien, it was the first real story of this imaginary world’ and, together with Beren and Lthien and The Children of Hrin, he regarded it as one of the three 'Great Tales' of the Elder Days.

ISBN: 9780008302771
Imprint: HarperCollins
On Sale: 2018-08-30
Format: Paperback
Trimsize: 15.300
Pages: 336
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Re: 'The Fall of Gondolin' listed for August 2018

Postby Otaku-sempai » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:14 am

A new article from the Tolkien Society has added Alan Lee's cover art with trade dress:

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Re: 'The Fall of Gondolin' listed for August 2018

Postby Denethor » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:30 am

The standard edition is listed with 304 pages.

Interestingly, if you add up the 1917 Lost Tales version, the Unfinished Tales rewrite, and the Silmarillion chapter, you get 138 pages, including commentary. To that one can add the short and unfinished Lay of the Fall of Gondolin.

How does one get from 138 pages to 304? There's either loads of padding (font and massive introduction) or potentially some new material in there. Fingers crossed.
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Re: 'The Fall of Gondolin' listed for August 2018

Postby Elmtree » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:05 pm

I just heard the news and ran over here. Very exciting. I do wonder about the 304 pages.

EDIT- someone just asked me for a timeline... chronologically where do each of the stories published post Silm (CoH, B&L, and FoG) fit with each other? I have an inkling (ouch), and did an internet search for a timeline, but couldn't find one.
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Re: 'The Fall of Gondolin' listed for August 2018

Postby Voronwe_the_Faithful » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:44 am

They overlap some, but generally speaking it would be: (1) Beren and Luthien; (2) Children of Hurin; (3) Fall of Gondolin.

The book is now listed at amazon.com: https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Gondolin-J- ... 8&qid=&sr=
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Re: 'The Fall of Gondolin' listed for August 2018

Postby Mithfânion » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:52 pm

It's a surprising move. You want to hope for the best, which is a story that is more complete, a continuation of Tuor's coming to Gondolin from UT.
We may not get that, but what will we get?

It was previously assumed there was nowhere near enough material
Chris Tolkien stating in "Beren and Luthien" last year that this would be the final book.
The synopsis of this Gondolin book referring back to the style of Beren and Luthien.

However, something happened that not only changed CT's mind and made him decide to go ahead and publish, which is one thing, but where does a 300 plus page count ( 320 even on US edition) come from? If I look at my copies of BolT 2 and UT, I come to some 115 pages, and only one of those is in the hardcover format that Fall of Gondolin will be. Add 10 more pages from the Silmarillion and a short poem, we are far, far away from 320 pages.

So the big question is, is this a more rounded story, what else is added? The synopsis' suggestion that the Tale of Earendil is also presented, even though not written by Tolkien, might mean more has been added to flesh out the Fall of Gondolin itself as well. Or will that be a copy paste job from what is in BolT II ( there is a separate chapter on Tale of Earendil but very little in it IMO) ?
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Re: 'The Fall of Gondolin' listed for August 2018

Postby Voronwe_the_Faithful » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:35 am

It certainly is a mystery. The material from the published Silmarillion will not be included because it isn't really written by Tolkien. There will certainly be some of what is included in HoMe 4 - The Shaping of Middle-earth, from the Sketch of the Mythology, and the Quenta Noldorinwa, from which much of the Silmarillion narrative is taken (the first part of the chapter in the published Silmarillion actually appears to be simply a very short summary taken from the long narrative published in Unfinished Tales as Of Tuor and His Coming to Gondolin). But that certainly does not seem to bring it anywhere close to 320 pages.

We shall see!
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Re: 'The Fall of Gondolin' listed for August 2018

Postby Galin » Sat May 05, 2018 1:45 pm

300 full page illustrations?

:!: :D :!:
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Re: 'The Fall of Gondolin' listed for August 2018

Postby Mithfânion » Wed May 09, 2018 2:39 pm

Haha, that is evil.

Come on CT, please us!
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