Beleriand - A Word Aside

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Postby Amarie » Thu Aug 23, 2001 8:34 pm

I love RPing but I've never had an RP that was set in the First Age. Is anyone interested in starting one? Ideas are welcome. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Nilson_The_White » Thu Aug 23, 2001 9:01 pm

I would love a First Age RPG. I'm currently involved in the Mirkwood thread, but since this one takes place 2 Ages earlier, consider me in! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>
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Postby Amarie » Fri Aug 24, 2001 1:42 am

Excellent, Nilson. At the moment, I seem to be stumped. All kinds of ideas are being tossed around in my head.
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Postby Volcanus » Fri Aug 24, 2001 3:49 am

Count me in.Except i don't have any ideas.
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Postby Khorazir » Fri Aug 24, 2001 4:21 am

That's an excellent idea, Amarie! I don't have a real story in mind - yet - but I think the setting should be either around Dagor Bragollach or Nirnaeth Arnoediad, or after the latter. You get lots of Ork-activities then, and things for the Eldar are pretty desparate already. But of course some of the large realms like Doriath, Nargothrond and Gondolin should exist still. Would be interesting to visit them. <BR><BR>As for a possible quest or story, well, we could be a group of emissaries searching for hidden Gondolin (doomed to fail, of course), or sent by Cirdan to find the West, and being shipwrecked on Beleriand's coasts high up in the north, having to find a way home, or a company of people who have nothing to lose and are sent to try and spy on Morgoth in Angband ... Man, there are lots of possibilities. It could also be fun to get involved in one of the large battles mentioned above. Or be a band of outlaws like Túrin and his followers ... Also it would be fun to meet some of the "famous" people actually mentioned in the Silmarillion or UT.<BR><BR>Anyway, these are just some suggestions - hey, we could be working for the dark side also ... - all right, I better stop now. I'm curious, though, what others may say.
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Postby skrewball » Fri Aug 24, 2001 4:54 am

i'm up for it. i wanna be gothmog, head of the balrogs. weren't any wraiths back then though.
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Postby Amarie » Fri Aug 24, 2001 11:43 pm

Great ideas, Khorazir. I was thinking of setting it in the time period after the Dagor Aglareb. Things will start off peaceful at first but of course, we all know that the Dagor Bragollach will commence years later. At that time, almost all elven kingdoms are still intact. After the Dagor Bragollach, most of the northern Edain and Eldar realms will be destroyed. But then what? <BR><BR>Skrewball, Volcanus, Nilson, what do you think? <BR><BR>P.S. Volcanus, you changed your alliance??
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Postby Khorazir » Sat Aug 25, 2001 3:47 am

The setting a few years before Dagor Bragollach is a good idea, Amarie - I hadn't thought of that, to be honest. I think it would be interesting to use the knowledge of the impairing great battle for the scenario: there should be lots of spies and emissaries of Angband about , trying to gather information about the plans of the Eldar, and weaknesses in their siege. These must of course be stopped. Also it could be fun to try and find out more of Morgoth's plans - for example that he's secretly breeding dragons in Angband. Was it not in Dagor Bragollach that Glaurung first showed himself, but was defeated by the dwarves?<BR><BR>But you're right, the others should say something to that as well. Also it would be interesting to know what kind of character everyone is going to play.
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Postby skrewball » Sat Aug 25, 2001 6:42 am

i am in agreement. we should start with the backgorund already provided in the sil, and then see how it goes. i for one would love to have dagor bragollach turn out pretty much the way it did, but some of the others may not agree. i suppose alliances don't count for much here. can we also create charecters not present in the book?
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Postby Khorazir » Sat Aug 25, 2001 7:17 am

I agree with skrewball. I should not like if we altered the larger events described in the Silmarillion. I think it's important to stay true to what Tolkien actually wrote. But I would encourage that we create our own characters - again, characters that are true in their background and behaviour to what is said of the people in the Silmarillion. Well, that's just my opinion. But I generally prefer RPGs that work in a particular historical and geographical setting - and Tolkien has provided both perfectly. I guess I'm rather the purist when it comes to roleplaying in Middle-Earth (or Beleriand) <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>. But still, this should not hinder us to develop a scenario and characters of our own. There are many stories only hinted at in the Silmarillion that would provide great adventures, and if we are a bit careful they should not clash with what is actually mentioned in the book in greater detail.
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Postby Nilson_The_White » Sat Aug 25, 2001 9:10 am

Great Ideas!!<BR>I agree with setting the time a few years before Dagor Bragollach. It opens up many popssibilites, as Khorazir said.<BR>Now we just have to figure out where, and why! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0> <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby IsildursHeir » Sat Aug 25, 2001 12:07 pm

Staying true to Tolkien is a good idea. That being said, here's a different idea on that. You could alter events and see where that takes you. Who knows, you could write a totally new spin on Middle Earth, based on changing some of these events. It would be interesting to see where it takes you.
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Postby asaris » Sat Aug 25, 2001 2:51 pm

I'd love to join in. I already have a character, Curufë, who might be able to join in. He's in the company of Celegorm during the period in question. He's the brother-in-law of Fëanor, and an interesting guy.
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Postby Amarie » Sat Aug 25, 2001 8:05 pm

Great! We can invent our own characters. However, like Khorazir, I am a "purist" when it comes to RPing. I like to try and stick with the original as much as possible. Skrewball, I think that the Dagor Bragollach should turn out like it did in the Sil. I guess, we are going to be seeing Glaurung, too. It would be fun to interact with characters mentioned in the Sil. <BR><BR>Asaris, your character sounds fine. <BR><BR>Anyway, where do we start and how? I already have a character in mind. Not sure yet though. <BR><BR>Time period - RP starts before the Dagor Bragollach. <BR>Setting - Anywhere in Beleriand<BR>Characters - Whatever (Heck, you can even play a real character from the Sil. What do you think?)<BR>Purpose - ???????????
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Postby undomiel » Sat Aug 25, 2001 11:00 pm

I'd like to join the RP, if you don't mind. All those ideas are fine with me. My character would be one of the Edain, but I haven't really work out my character yet. I'm new to the pony, but I'm hoping to become more active here in the future.
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Postby Khorazir » Sun Aug 26, 2001 8:20 am

I also have a character in mind. I haven't worked out his history yet, but I have some ideas for this. I'd like to play a Sinda of Doriath, one of the march-wardens of Thingol (type Beleg Cúthalion). Since they are sent on errands outside Doriath now and again it should be quite a flexible character. <BR><BR>Well, now we only need a story or task and the particular setting to get started. Any more concrete ideas on this?
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Postby Nilson_The_White » Sun Aug 26, 2001 12:35 pm

I am against changing the outcome of the Dagor Bragollach and what is written should stay the same. But I think it is ok to add something that is not written, wich we would be doing with the RP anyway. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>No srong ideas on the story though...
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Postby Amarie » Sun Aug 26, 2001 9:32 pm

I can't seem to think straight at the moment. I see that there's some variety to our characters. My character will be of the House of Finarfin since I have a particularly strong attachment to Finrod. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>
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Postby skrewball » Mon Aug 27, 2001 4:12 am

well, quite obviously, my charecter will be allied to mordor. so far, it seems there's only 2 of us for the dark side (me and khorazir).
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Postby Khorazir » Mon Aug 27, 2001 5:14 am

I suppose you mean Angband in this case, skrewball, since there is no Mordor in the First Age. Sauron is still only a servant of Morgoth. But of course you could be working for him as a spy. Would be nice to have an enemy or traitor in the group, who at first of course pretends to be our ally. <BR>As for me, even though I have Haradrim as my alliance, I am going to play an Elf in this RP (there are no Southrons in Beleriand anyway). I've given some more thought to his character: since he's a Sinda of Doriath, he could hold some grudge against the Noldor - particularly against those of the House of Feanor, eg. of the people of Curufin, Celegorm or Caranthir, as they are they most haughty of the lot. I haven't worked out the reasons for this attitude. But it would be fun to have someone of the House of Feanor in the group. Didn't you mention to have a character of this kind in mind, asaris? This would create a cool situation in which both sides must learn to overcome mutual prejudice and dislike.<BR><BR>But I don't have any great ideas when it comes down to the actual story. I guess we need a task of some kind which brings and holds the different characters together as a group.
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Postby asaris » Mon Aug 27, 2001 9:45 am

Well, I'm not entirely sure how much I want Curufë to develop. He's in a third age thread here now, and it would be really odd if he developed past that.<BR><BR>Here's an idea. A band of orcs have stolen something, and we have to get it back from them before they get to Angband. What do you think?
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Postby Khorazir » Mon Aug 27, 2001 11:24 am

That's a good idea, asaris. But what could it be? It should be something that concerns all the good peoples of Beleriand, something important for the war, maybe, which must not fall into Morgoth's hands. Some secret letters of Thingol to Finrod or Fingolfin, perhaps, or other writings of the Eldar decribing the strength and position of their hosts. Or a powerful (magical?) artefact. <BR>Or else it could be a person that has been captured or even abducted by the orcs and minions of Morgoth, and is wanted alive by him, because he wants to press information from him/her. In this case the adventure would be a rescue-mission.<BR><BR>What say the others to that?
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Postby undomiel » Mon Aug 27, 2001 6:01 pm

That sounds like a great idea to me. I would be one of the Edain of the house of Beor and allied to the house of Finarfin, especially Finrod Felagund. Maybe pledged in service to Amarie's character?
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Postby Amarie » Mon Aug 27, 2001 10:50 pm

Hey cool, undomiel. My character is female but maybe you could pledge allegiance to her father. At the beginning of the RP, she and her family would be one of those in living in Dorthonion with Angrod and Aegnor. It would make good sense since most of the people of Beor lived there. We'd both be serving Finrod. <BR><BR>That's a good idea, asaris. We can develop the RP as we go along. Does anyone want to start the first post now? Should I do it?<BR><BR>Khorazir, I'm sorry if I can't be more active in Sirhiril's Rescue. Recently, an old RP was resurrected and a new one started, so I'm swamped. I'm usually a better RPer. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> I hope I can get to devote more time to this one because I'm about to die in Rampage ME.
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Postby Khorazir » Tue Aug 28, 2001 3:03 am

That's all right, Amarie, although I'd love to hear more from Rána. She seems to be an interesting character. Well, Canamarth and I will keep the thread going, so that you can return to it once you have more time - or fewer RPs to attend to.
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Postby skrewball » Tue Aug 28, 2001 4:03 am

i'll be the leader of this band of orcs. now i need a name...
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Postby Khorazir » Tue Aug 28, 2001 4:56 am

Cool, skrewball! Then we have an enemy. As for names, there's a number of orc-names in LotR, and a few in the Lay of Leithian from the book "Lays of Beleriand". Or just make one up - as long as it sounds pretty orkish.
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Postby Amarie » Tue Aug 28, 2001 2:53 pm

I'd like to start the first post. Or does anyone want the job? By the way, what's the title for this RP?
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Postby skrewball » Wed Aug 29, 2001 4:25 am

go for it amarie. choose up a title.<BR>i thinjk i'll be khara. demon from indian mythology
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Postby Elemmire » Wed Aug 29, 2001 7:26 am

Can I join?<BR><BR>I just recently figured out Elemmire's history in the First Age, and I'd like to try writing it in more detail. It seems like it would fit well, because she also is one of Angrod and Aegnor's people (until the Bragollach).
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