Shakespearian English...

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Postby ElricOfGrans » Sat Apr 26, 2003 5:01 pm

Aiya ilquen,<BR><BR>I know that this is not really Tolkien, but I did not know anywhere else to ask. I want to write a poem in Shakespearian period English, but I know if I miss a gramatical rule or something, I'll look like a fool. Does anyone know where I could find a page that would help me here?<BR><BR>I want to write it in that style for two reasons:<BR>1) It sounds better than modern English <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>2) The poem is being set in about that period, so it'll better set the mood.<BR><BR>Thanks for any assistance <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR><i>Nai i súrë ortuva tálulya ar macilya ristuva anwa.</i>
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Postby Jer1477 » Sat Apr 26, 2003 7:27 pm

Hey, sounds like an interesting idea!<BR><BR>There are a couple of sites that deal with the grammar and syntax of this language style. A couple of sites devoted to Shakespeare have information on it- as well as sites for Renaissance faires and stuff.... I'll try to get some links for you..
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Postby ElricOfGrans » Tue Apr 29, 2003 8:36 pm

Aiya Jer1447,<BR><BR>I'd appreciate that: I've been looking myself, and the best I've found so far is this:<BR><BR>www.bardweb.net<BR><BR>Not a BAD site, but it doesn't have everything I need :\<BR><BR><i>Nai i súrë ortuva tálulya ar macilya ristuva anwa.</i>
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Postby Almatolmen » Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:44 am

I don't know whether you want to buy or borrow a book, but these might be useful:<BR><BR><a target=new href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0970149212/qid=1051719452/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-5187364-2876948?v=glance&s=books">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0970149212/qid=1051719452/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-5187364-2876948?v=glance&s=books</a><BR><BR><a target=new href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0521310466/qid=1051719702/sr=1-25/ref=sr_1_25/102-5187364-2876948?v=glance&s=books">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0521310466/qid=1051719702/sr=1-25/ref=sr_1_25/102-5187364-2876948?v=glance&s=books</a><BR><BR>Technically what you're calling Shakespearean English is called Early Modern English by language authorities. Doing a word search using that designation may be useful. <BR><BR>For example:<BR><BR><a target=new href="http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/english/emed/emedd.html">http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/english/emed/emedd.html</a><BR><BR><a target=new href="http://mockingbird.creighton.edu/english/fajardo/teaching/eng520/emodeng.htm">http://mockingbird.creighton.edu/english/fajardo/teaching/eng520/emodeng.htm</a><BR><BR><a target=new href="http://icg.harvard.edu/~eng101/workbook/early-modern/contents/">http://icg.harvard.edu/~eng101/workbook/early-modern/contents/</a><BR><BR>This site is most interesting for its bibliography:<BR><BR><a target=new href="http://www.sinrs.stir.ac.uk/hope.htm">http://www.sinrs.stir.ac.uk/hope.htm</a><BR><BR>If your serious about authenticity not only in linguistic forms but in poetic spirit, that's tougher to find. Most web site references are to university courses and I could find nothing readily available at Amazon.<BR><BR>Hope this is useful! Good luck!
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Postby ElricOfGrans » Thu May 01, 2003 4:04 pm

Aiya Almatolmen,<BR><BR>I looked up those books, however they do not seem to be in either the public Library or the local University Libraries either; I grabbed some books on Elizabethan Poetry while I was there though. That second website you posted was most interesting though! Thanks for your help <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR><i>Nai i súrë ortuva tálulya ar macilya ristuva anwa.</i>
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Postby Almatolmen » Sun May 04, 2003 11:07 am

You could try Inter-Library Loan.
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