Marty's spoiler filled ROTK Q&A thread

What do you think of Tolkien on the silver screen...? Whether Bakshi, Jackson, or whoever else, come on in and discuss your reflections, opinions, and memories...

Postby BWMASTER » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:16 pm

Thanx for the thread. Been lurking awhile in the shadows here and thought i should make myself noticed <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby vynaca_of_mirkwood » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:20 pm

<i>This thread won't be obsolete. I predict it will turn into a center for discussion and debate between all those who have seen ROTK by tomorrow. </i><BR><BR>Just so it can get locked after 380 more posts? I don't think so.<BR>A thread has already been started <a href='http://www.tolkienonline.com/thewhitecouncil/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=74677' target=_blank>here</a>.
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Postby RobertRohirim » Tue Dec 16, 2003 1:41 pm

I agree with Vinacca... this thread has well earned its keep. take your filthy discussion elsewhere commoner! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0>
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Postby sarah_greenleaf » Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:47 pm

Thanks for everything, Marty! We'll still remember you for a long time after this thread dies as "Marty, the guy who spoiled us to death with ROTK questions and answers." <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0> <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif"border=0>
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Postby Ananias » Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:39 pm

Just one more question...<BR><BR>How well is the scouring of the shire handled?<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>(I'm kidding! Don't throw things at me!) <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby theduffster » Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:37 pm

Marty, you've done a fantastic job! Kudos to you for keeping up with all the crazy questions. <BR><BR>Child support papers are in the mail. Just sign on the dotted line.
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Postby Marty » Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:29 am

Ranewen_The_Pink,<BR><BR>... What is Ereshkigal talking about? Marty, is there something you want to tell me! <BR><BR>Well, if you can get over here before Friday...<BR>
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Postby Limbennin » Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:51 am

I just saw ROTK this afternoon and I'm seeing it again tonight (!). It is superb. There are just two flaws that I noted:<BR><BR>1. The film just begs for more time. The cuts necessary to limit viewing time to less than 3.5 hours were too obvious sometimes.<BR><BR>2. The scene after Aragorn's coronation, with Arwen hiding behind the banner before revealing herself was corny, too corny IMO. Straight out of a typical Hollywood melodrama. <BR><BR>Other than the above the film was just bliss. The sequence of the successive lighting of the beacons was one of the most beautiful, if not THE most beautiful, things I had ever seen on screen. Amazing.
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Postby irolas » Sat Jan 24, 2004 3:30 am

Hi<BR><BR>I am Ian hughes ... and i was cast as Beregond. but for some reason the charater was changed to Irolas by the time the movie came out. i shot my scenes two years ago and have been waiting to see if i was going to make the final cut!<BR>Just as a Question... <BR>Me and some friends made a short film before the LOTR started shooting and before i was cast, about three guys who try to get a part in LOTR by digging a hole in Peter Jacksons Lawn. they get the wrong Peter Jackson but end up nearly running over Peter Jackson at the end of the film . It is Very silly and funny and we made it on the cheep but it looks great and we asked if peter wanted to be in it and he said yes !!!! So he plays him self in a cameo at the end.it also stars Peter Tait, Stephen Ure (who played Orks!) and John Lee. we are thinking of relesing it do you think this is some thing fans would want in their colections? <b>PETER JACKSON</b>
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Postby the_allmighty_Yodlnator » Sat Jan 24, 2004 5:07 am

Hya Irolas! <BR><BR>great to see ya around. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR>And even more so if you're truly Ian Hughes! <BR><BR>Sorry for being a bit sceptical but with the internet you just can never know. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif"border=0><BR>So I'd like to ask you the following Question, to see wheter you could really be Ian Hughes: <BR><BR>Which Orc Character did Stephen Ure play in the <b>first</b> Movie? (given that you seem to know him quite well): <BR><BR>(Don't think that too many people would know this!)<BR><BR><BR>But now back to your posting:<BR><BR><< <i>I am Ian hughes ... and i was cast as Beregond. but for some reason the charater was changed to Irolas by the time the movie came out. </i> >><BR><BR><BR><BR>Can you tell us why they changed this so late in the game? <BR>And are there additional scenes involving you, but got cut in the end? <BR><BR><BR><BR><< <i>Me and some friends made a short film before the LOTR started shooting and before i was cast, about three guys who try to get a part in LOTR by digging a hole in Peter Jacksons Lawn. they get the wrong Peter Jackson but end up nearly running over Peter Jackson at the end of the film . It is Very silly and funny and we made it on the cheep but it looks great and we asked if peter wanted to be in it and he said yes !!!! So he plays him self in a cameo at the end.it also stars Peter Tait, Stephen Ure (who played Orks!) and John Lee. we are thinking of relesing it do you think this is some thing fans would want in their colections?</i> >><BR><BR>I'm sure the true geeks among us would really appreciate to see this! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0><BR>I for my part definately do so. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR><BR>EDIT: And before I forget it - it's been great to see your character on Screen. Even though it hadn't been Beregond, your Character still added a lot the Minas Tirith Scenes. And I truly hope to see more of him in the SEE-version of the film. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>And I'll be very happy to add your Character to my <a href='http://www.council-of-elrond.com/castdb/' target=_blank>Character Database</a>, once I'm doing all the ROTK Characters. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Amphiaraus » Sat Jan 24, 2004 5:09 am

Irolas, I may be falling for a hoax here, but if it is in fact you, congratulations on making the cut! I thought you did a great job adding a bit of true Gondorian feeling to your scenes.<BR><BR>Anyway, I'd *love* to see the short you describe!<BR><BR>The bolded PETER JACKSON at the end of your post intrigues me. Peter, if you're there, my thanks to you are inexpressible and immeasurable. . .
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Postby irolas » Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:57 pm

Sorry it has taken a while to reply . i didnt know anyone had responded. i am still finding the scale of the web site a bit daunting! <BR>Yes it is Me (ian Hughes) bit hard to prove but check out <BR><BR><A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.aucklandactors.co.nz">http://www.aucklandactors.co.nz</A><BR><BR>is my agent. <BR>As to the answer to the Stephen Ure question. Gorbag, i think but to be honest it has been a while since i have spoken to Stephen!<BR>Pretty much all of the stuff i shoot is in the film. They cut one line "open the gates". Which in hindsight i can understand! <BR><BR>The change of Character name? I have no idea why ...<BR><BR>Bogans will be available soon. I will post someting about it. we are setting up a web site <BR><BR><A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.bogans.co.nz">http://www.bogans.co.nz</A><BR><BR> As far as i know Peter Jackson has only appered in one other film besides ours (and his own - of course!) He agreed to be in our film after we sent him a cut of it with a gap that said - Peter Jackson goes here!<BR><BR>Love to be part of the data base!
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Postby Ranewen_The_Pink » Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:56 pm

The thread is resurrected! <BR><BR> Well, I wonder why I'm here. <i>Follows Marty around some more...</i><BR><BR> Hello, Irolas. I'd be another little geek interested in seeing this film of yours. Don't worry, after a while, TORC doesn't seem so daunting. It's also very addictive, so be careful! <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0>
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Postby Marty » Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:59 pm

"Well, I wonder why I'm here. Follows Marty around some more..."<BR><BR>That was you?<BR><BR>It does seem a strange reason to resurrect my thread, but I'm a shameless sef-promoter, so whatever.
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Postby Darmok_the_Green » Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:40 am

Good to hear from you, Mr Hughes.<BR><BR>Maybe Beregond became Irolas because the character isn't "really" Beregond, in that he doesn't have the same role as in the book. Calling the character Irolas is like a homage to Beregond, because Iorlas was the name of Beregond's brother (or brother-in-law) in the book.<BR><BR><BR><BR>(I wonder why PJ etc. decided to name minor characters after characters mentioned in passing from the book, but switching two of the letters? Madril being named after Mardil The Good Steward, and now Irolas. Why not just keep the names as they are?)
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Postby the_allmighty_Yodlnator » Sat Jan 31, 2004 5:11 am

Great to see you around once more, Irolas. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR><br><br><< <i>Yes it is Me (ian Hughes) bit hard to prove...</i> >><br><br><BR><BR>Sure it is, but I do believe you <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0> - even though this website has been known among us LOTR geeks months before we had seen you on screen.<BR><BR>It's been our prove that we'd gonna see Beregond in this movie. <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif"border=0>
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Postby SueB » Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:02 pm

Wow...can you guys believe this thread's almost a year old?? I remember eagerly checking the board often during last year's Thanksgiving weekend, hoping for more of Marty's wonderful spoiler nuggets...and now here we are, waiting for the EE!

Just thought I'd bump it for nostalgia's sake, since we're coming up to the time when, last year, everything started to kick into gear for the roll-out of the last film. The anticipation was incredible!

And I was just wondering...hey Marty, how are all those new babies doing? :)

Sue :)
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Postby Marty » Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:19 pm

Most are nearing their three month birthdays.

Seeing this thread brings back some of the nostalgia I expressed in my 2004 Apathy thread of about a month ago. Last night, I was driving right past The Clarity screening room where I saw an advanced screening of FOTR two weeks before its release back in '01. What a bitter sweet surprise to find this thread resurrected the very next day. In six days, it will have been a year since its birth.
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Postby semuta » Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:07 pm

MARTY! MARTY! MARTY!

It was a lot of fun, holmes.
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Postby eomer32 » Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:35 pm

Every time I see "Semuta" I instinctively think "Hamatula" a Ba'atezu (demon cum 'monster') from Dungeons and Dragons...

...hey, cut me some slack, it's Friday night and I just tapped the beermeister...

:P


Oh, and yeah, kudos (congratulations, not the snack bar) to Marty for, what is without question, the most impressive, coolest, neatest, funnest and exhaustive thread I've ever had the pleasure of "refreshing" every 6 seconds...God, I miss those days!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby TORN » Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:42 pm

McFLY wrote:Seeing this thread brings back some of the nostalgia . . .


:x :x :x THANKS FOR NOTHING, McFLY, YOU RUINED THE DAMN MOVIE FOR ME!!! :x :x :x

SIGNED,

THE RESIDENT MISERABLE POLTROO


AHHHHH -- THAT FELT GOOD -- LIKE THE GOOD OLD DAYS BEFORE I WENT SOFT!!!
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Postby Saradoc » Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:16 pm

TORN, this is not the board for such frank sexual discussion.
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Postby TORN » Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:40 pm

Dr. Ruth wrote:TORN, this is not the board for such frank sexual discussion.



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Postby NienorNiniel » Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:08 am

*Remember the thread, the feelings, the waiting*

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
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Postby SueB » Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:26 pm

What's really amazing to me is that, in just a little over three weeks from now, we'll have the opportunity to see all the cut scenes that we were so upset about losing last year ("I have to wait a whole year to see Faramir romance Eowyn?? But that's such a long time from now!!").

And Marty, I'd just like to take this opportunity to once more say a big ol' Thanks!! for all of your hard work and generosity in sharing your good fortune with us. You helped to make the release of the movies a lot more exciting for us spoiler-starved fans!! :) Go you!!

Sue :)
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Postby Goshard » Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:46 pm

There once was a poster called Marty,
Who attended an SAG party,
He drank all the Beer and baked beans, I fear
Which made him a little bit far..

I kid, I kid!
When I kid, it's always done with love
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Postby Texas-hobbit » Sun Nov 21, 2004 10:32 pm

*whacks Saradoc's open palm with ruler*
Now you boys behave! :nono:
:P

Marty, not only was this thread exciting, at times hilarious, and amazing to follow, it helped prepare me for what was to be a terrible case of First Viewing Syndrome. If I had not been fore-warned of some scenes, I may have just driven off a freeway ramp instead of driving home, numbed, but able to somehow cope. By my third viewing, I had recovered, but this thread was a life-saver.

Will you be around for The Hobbit? :D
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Postby Primula_Baggins » Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:24 pm

Haven't you heard, Tex?

Marty is going to be our on-set secret information conduit for The Hobbit.
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Postby Farawen » Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:33 am

I thought he was gonna play Bilbo?
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Postby Primula_Baggins » Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:38 am

Exactly.

He knows we're counting on him.

(Congrats on your WCAs, Farawen!)
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