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Postby PippinIsAPimp » Sun Dec 21, 2003 12:41 am

I was watching something about ROTK on TechTV I think and I heard someone say something about PJ might be making The Hobbit movie next? Was that just a bunch of talk or what?
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Postby TolkienLover » Sun Dec 21, 2003 12:44 am

He's currently making King Kong, due out in 2005. There are no official plans (by any director) to make The Hobbit yet.
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Postby AntiSauron » Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:21 am

The rights to make <i>The Hobbit</i> are currently in question. I think NL is trying to secure them - there have been a number of news articles on this lately.<BR><BR><A TARGET="_blank" HREF="http://www.sundayherald.com/38504">http://www.sundayherald.com/38504</A><BR><BR>To the extent that cranky Chris Tolkien has any legal say in the matter, no one will ever make a live action <i>Hobbit</i>....<BR><BR>
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Postby Earnil » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:20 am

The films rights for The Hobbit were sold along with the film rights to the Lord of the Rings. The problem New Line currently faces with trying to produce an adaptation of The Hobbit, is due to distribution rights, which are currently held by United Artists.<BR><BR>The Tolkien Estate has no more say in any film production of The Hobbit, than they did in PJ's film production of the Lord of the Rings.
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Postby Razorback » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:34 am

<u>The Hobbit</u> will be made into a movie eventually... and it will be the last Tolkien book adapted to the big screen.<BR><BR>RB
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Postby Valandil_Eluchi » Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:43 am

Yeah, i do recall reading something about PJ thinking about making The Hobbit in Empire Magazine
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Postby narsil » Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:04 am

PJ is definately mooting the possibility of shooting the Hobbit in a couple of years. In interviews he has stated that he couldn't imagine anyone else making it,and that it would give him a sense of Middle Earth closure.<BR><BR>Also, Ian McKellen is keen- in an interview he said that if you wish really really hard this Xmas, PJ might make the Hobbit.<BR><BR>If this happens, chances of him returning in the Gandalf role-<BR><BR>100%.
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Postby Razorback » Sun Dec 21, 2003 7:17 am

They better make it soon... or the rights might go away.<BR><BR>RB
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Postby greatsantini » Sun Dec 21, 2003 10:01 am

Well, at first I heard that Christopher Tolkien wouldn't let them, which seems strange, since there's already been an animated version. But if the rights lie with MGM/UA, it seems like a deal could easily be made. They are both owned by Time Warner, and other studios have made distrubtion deals where one studio distrubtes domestically, and the other internationally. Surely both studios can see it would be a lucrative deal.
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Postby legolas_05 » Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:01 am

I really want PJ to make the Hobbit and I can't imagine anybody else making it either. But it probably won't be made (if it does) till much later years. The good thing about this is, BETTER CG!! Can you imagine what a CG Smaug would look like in the year...2008? Even Gollum! It would certainly be awesome for PJ to make it, but it also makes him look a little Star Warsish by making the ending movies and then a beginning.
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Postby legolas_05 » Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:01 am

I really want PJ to make the Hobbit and I can't imagine anybody else making it either. But it probably won't be made (if it does) till much later years. The good thing about this is, BETTER CG!! Can you imagine what a CG Smaug would look like in the year...2008? Even Gollum! It would certainly be awesome for PJ to make it, but it also makes him look a little Star Warsish by making the ending movies and then a beginning.
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Postby greatsantini » Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:08 am

Francis Coppola did the same thing--or should have--with the Godfather films. Plus, we don't want Gollum to look too different. I'd also like Hugo Weaving, Ian McKellen, and possibly Ian Holm to come back. Even without Holm, they can't wait forever to get McKellen and Weaving back.
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Postby Dave_LF » Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:10 am

<i>but it also makes him look a little Star Warsish by making the ending movies and then a beginning</i><BR><BR>That worries me a little. The bulk of LOTR was filmed all at once, and as a result the films are relatively unselfconscious of their own popularity (mumak-surfing aside). Plus, would everyone involved be able to get back into the same frame of mind after working on less demanding projects for several years? The worst outcome would be if they made it, and it was bad.
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Postby greenleafwood » Sun Dec 21, 2003 1:27 pm

<i>PJ making The Hobbit?</i><BR>I sure hope so. What are we all going to look forward to after the ROTK EE version is out?<BR><BR>greenleaf
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Postby andurilwest » Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:03 pm

Is there no chance whatsoever, however so little, of a Silmarillion movie being ever made? A PJ Silmarillion?<BR><BR>That's what I'm looking forward to, besides The Hobbit.<BR><BR><i>BETTER CG!</i><BR><BR>I agree.
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Postby andurilwest » Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:13 pm

He'd probably make it more violent,(The source being a children's story, mind) cut some of the songs, add more dwarf jokes, and even whole chapters too, but I'd still watch it.<BR><BR>Waiting for a Legolas cameo... That'd be funny. Or even an expanded role?! Well... I don't know...<BR><BR>Poor Bard'll be endlessly compared to Legolas. <BR><BR>Also a PJ cameo, of course. A man of Lake-town?<BR><BR>Waiting for the Battle of Five Armies! Given how PJ depicts even relatively minor battles like the ambush at Amon Hen as well big show-stopping ones like Helm's Deep, (And Pelennor Fields, definitely, even if I can't watch ROTK till January) this one'll be a winner. <BR><BR>
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Postby Evenstar_Elfstone » Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:14 pm

There's more of a chance that Arwen will grow a beard than that CT will sell the rights to the Silmarillion.
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Postby Ugluk » Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:22 pm

Yeah, we've batted the idea around, and if a 'Hobbit' movie is made, Legolas will DEFINATELY have a cameo. Come on, they'll make an extra 5-6 million dollars if the name 'Orlando Bloom' is in the credits. <BR><BR>Hoping....hoping....
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Postby andurilwest » Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:34 pm

I'm sorry.
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Postby andurilwest » Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:36 pm

I am very sorry.
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Postby andurilwest » Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:50 pm

Look, I'm really sorry.
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Postby shadowfaxfan » Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:54 pm

Hehe!<BR>I'd love to see the Hobbit made into a film, but only if Ian McKellen is Gandalf, it wouldn't be the same otherwise!
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Postby andurilwest » Sun Dec 21, 2003 3:31 pm

How about Bilbo? Could Ian Holm still play him?<BR><BR>As much as possible, the LOTR cast must be used for the Hobbit cast... or else there'll be bad (or good?) comparisons.
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Postby Evenstar_Elfstone » Sun Dec 21, 2003 8:00 pm

I'm guessing they would give Arwen and maybe even Estel a cameo if its made.
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Postby Neophool » Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:47 pm

Regarding the Silmarillion, would CT have complete control over it's rights? I mean he didn't write the whole thing, there has as to be a loophole technicality somwhere that would allow an adaptation of parts of the book. givin PJ and Walsh's writing skills, I think a nice 3 hour movie of just one chapter of the book would be amazing, with a FotR-style prolouge summing up the Valar and Melkor and such would be awesome. <BR><BR>What part of the Silmarillion would YOU want PJ to adapt?
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Postby eomer32 » Sat Dec 27, 2003 6:55 pm

"Peter Jackson's 'The Hobbit'" coming to a theatre near you December 2007? Please, oh please, oh please, etc. etc... <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif"border=0><BR><BR>As for the Sil, Neo, it's been much discussed here and it doesn't appear that it'll happen. CT and his relatives (he'll probably have them sign some kind of legal document saying that if they sell the rights to the Sil after his death, they forfeit his fortune) won't let it happen...so, sigh, no Beren and Luthien, no Turin, no "events leading to the Prologue"...sad, really... <img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif"border=0>
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Postby Ugluk » Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:11 pm

Oh please.....please.....please.... <BR><BR>From everything I heard, Peter Jackson hopes to have Ian McKellan to announce the joyful news at the 2004 Oscars, in February. <BR><BR><BR>-Ugluk
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Postby LordoftheQuackk » Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:15 pm

PJ making the Hobbit would be like someone making the Lord of the Rings (ha...ha....sorry....)<BR><BR>hroom....yeah...it would be more than cool...it would be cooler....
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Postby Tookish_Traveler » Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:37 pm

I don't know about The Hobbit, but the Muppets are going to do The Sil.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><img src="http://www.tolkienonline.com/mb/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif"border=0><BR><BR>
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Postby dudalb » Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:46 pm

GreatSantini, MGM/UA is NOT owned by Time Warner. Time-Warner has the rights to some older MGM UA films due to Ted Turners involvment with Time Warner, but the current MGM/UA studios are totally independent of Time Warner. I really don't understand where you got this.<BR> MGM/UA are holding out for every concesssion they can get from New Line, and no announcement of the Hobbit will be made until the last legal hurdle is gone. I hope whoever made the statement about McKellan making the annpouncment at the Oscars was only kidding.<BR>And Wishing that Christopher Tolkien would die is really tacky and in bad taste. This is the kind of crap that gives fans a bad name...and when they indulge in stuff like this deservedly so. Whoever makes statements like that has a lot of growing up to do.
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